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New City Jerusalem
« on: Thu Sep 13, 2012 - 20:52:22 »
When the New City Jerusalem comes down out of Heaven, as the Word of God says it will, what do you think most of the un-christian world will call this {huge, flying, coming out of space, and landing in the Holy Land} city?

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Re: New City Jerusalem
« Reply #1 on: Thu Sep 13, 2012 - 22:45:37 »
When the New City Jerusalem comes down out of Heaven, as the Word of God says it will, what do you think most of the un-christian world will call this {huge, flying, coming out of space, and landing in the Holy Land} city?

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When that happens, there won't be any unbelievers in the world, as they will already have been judged and dispatched. Therefore it matters not what the lost would think of it.
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Re: New City Jerusalem
« Reply #2 on: Fri Sep 14, 2012 - 17:01:41 »
Given the measurements given in Revelation... something that large entering earth's atmosphere would destroy all life on the planet.  So I think everyone will be praying, all right.


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Re: New City Jerusalem
« Reply #3 on: Fri Sep 14, 2012 - 23:27:47 »
When the New City Jerusalem comes down out of Heaven, as the Word of God says it will, what do you think most of the un-christian world will call this {huge, flying, coming out of space, and landing in the Holy Land} city?

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When that happens, there won't be any unbelievers in the world, as they will already have been judged and dispatched. Therefore it matters not what the lost would think of it.


Yes i understand that is what you believe, but i will continue to believe what God has told me. Not to mention all the prophesies in the old Testament, where people will come against Christ, they will fight against Him, and He will destroy all those who come against the City. Jesus will set up His Kingdom on Earth, all nations shall come against Him, after He destroys anyone who fights against Him, that is when the rest of the people will beat the swords into plows.

Also you say above that when Christ returns to the Earth that the unbelievers in the world will be dispatched, how so? Where is that written? there is two ways to Heaven, before you respond to that statement please read my article on it, to better understand what i am saying.

Yes i do understanding there is a teaching out there that teaches, that when Christ comes back, all the unsaved are killed, or destroyed, or whatever. the problem is i don't see Scriptures teaching this at all. If then Scriptures doesn't teach this, where does this doctrine come from?

Scriptures are clear, when Christ returns and sets up His Kingdom the nations will fight against Him, and He will destroy them. yet not everyone fights against Him.

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« Reply #4 on: Fri Sep 14, 2012 - 23:33:29 »
When the New City Jerusalem comes down out of Heaven, as the Word of God says it will, what do you think most of the un-christian world will call this {huge, flying, coming out of space, and landing in the Holy Land} city?

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When that happens, there won't be any unbelievers in the world, as they will already have been judged and dispatched. Therefore it matters not what the lost would think of it.


Yes i understand that is what you believe, but i will continue to believe what God has told me. Not to mention all the prophesies in the old Testament, where people will come against Christ, they will fight against Him, and He will destroy all those who come against the City. Jesus will set up His Kingdom on Earth, all nations shall come against Him, after He destroys anyone who fights against Him, that is when the rest of the people will beat the swords into plows.

 
I will also continue to beleive what God has taught me through His word. You are mistakenly talking about Christ's Millennial Kingdom, and not the New Jerusalem.

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Also you say above that when Christ returns to the Earth that the unbelievers in the world will be dispatched, how so? Where is that written? there is two ways to Heaven, before you respond to that statement please read my article on it, to better understand what i am saying.

 
I never said that. It appears you may have a little problem with reading. Therefore, I will refuse to read what you have written on the subject.

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Yes i do understanding there is a teaching out there that teaches, that when Christ comes back, all the unsaved are killed, or destroyed, or whatever. the problem is i don't see Scriptures teaching this at all. If then Scriptures doesn't teach this, where does this doctrine come from?

 
I've never seen that taught in scripture.

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Scriptures are clear, when Christ returns and sets up His Kingdom the nations will fight against Him, and He will destroy them. yet not everyone fights against Him.

 
True. The ungodly armies of the Antichrist will rise up to try and kill Him when they see Him coming in the clouds.


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Re: New City Jerusalem
« Reply #5 on: Sun Sep 16, 2012 - 12:33:24 »
I will also continue to beleive what God has taught me through His word. You are mistakenly talking about Christ's Millennial Kingdom, and not the New Jerusalem.

Where do you think God will reign out of, during His Millennial Kingdom? i mean when Jesus is KING of all Kings, and He is reigning on the Earth for one thousand years, from where does He do this from? According to Revelations chapters 21 and 22. The Throne of God is in the New City Jerusalem, on Earth. and that the kings of the Earth bring their glory into it, and it also teaches that no body who maketh a lie, or worketh abomination shall be able to enter into the City. When the New City Jerusalem comes to the Earth, is the beginning of His Reign on the Earth for a thousand years, and His saints (those who He Raptured up with Him when He came to the Earth with the New City Jerusalem (the Place He prepared for us according to Scriptures)) shall reign with Him on the Earth, but the saints will live in the New City Jerusalem, not on the Earth. The New City Jerusalem is where Christ will reign out of for a thousand years during His Millennial Kingdom. At least that is what Scriptures has revealed, and it does not contradict what God has told me, with all the things that are yet to come.


i said {Also you say above that when Christ returns to the Earth that the unbelievers in the world will be dispatched, how so? Where is that written? there is two ways to Heaven, before you respond to that statement please read my article on it, to better understand what i am saying.}

to which you replied:

"I never said that. It appears you may have a little problem with reading. Therefore, I will refuse to read what you have written on the subject."

i do appologize if i have misquoted you, and i went back up to verify that i did this thing. Here is what you wrote:

"When that happens, there won't be any unbelievers in the world, as they will already have been judged and dispatched. Therefore it matters not what the lost would think of it "

This to me, sounds like you are saying that the unbelievers are dispatched, i merely was asking nicely, where in Scriptures does it teach that the unbelievers are dispatched at the Rapture?


i said:

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Scriptures are clear, when Christ returns and sets up His Kingdom the nations will fight against Him, and He will destroy them. yet not everyone fights against Him.

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True. The ungodly armies of the Antichrist will rise up to try and kill Him when they see Him coming in the clouds.

Please, i mean no disrespect to you, but could you please show where in Scriptures does it teach that. That the antichrist's armies rise up and try to kill Him, at the Rapture? You said above that hear God through His Word, where did you hear God then that the ungodly armies of the Antichrist will rise up to try to kill Him at the Rapture? i have read the entire Bible over 70 times in my lifetime, and i have never read this teaching. i could be wrong, that is why i am asking to back up your hearing from God in the Word, by showing the Word you say that you hear these things, or are made to believe they will occur as you say.

After reading the Bible over 70 times in my life, talking with Angels of God, having visions and dreams, and having had many audible conversations with God (i.e. i asking questions an He answering them), i am not saying this boast, but saying it that you may believe. i KNOW what is going to happen in the future. Not based on my own studies of Scriptures, or from my own understanding, but what God told me is going to Happen. i do not know why He chose me to be a prophet. But He did, and He taught me all things that are going to happen, so that i may be able to help a few to come to the understanding of the Truth.

When Christ returns to get His saints, He comes with the New City Jerusalem. It will land over Israel, it will set on mountains, and there will be a huge valley underneath it, where the remnant of Jew who did not believe but now do believe, because they come to realize they were wrong, will live in this valley protected by God Himself.
When He returns, He will rapture His saints. Why? so they can reign with Him, on the Earth out of the New City Jerusalem. When He raptures them, the unbelievers are left behind, not destroyed, but left behind. These then will gather the nations together and attack the New City, they will not believe it is the City which the Bible talks about, they will call it the Mothership, a UFO. They will attach it. Everyone who tries to attack the New City will be killed terribly, eyes boiling out of their heads, and weapons melting to their bodies. Very terrible indeed for those who come against the Christ of the Universe. Anyways, God will destroy all those who come up against Him. This is not the final battle though, this is the battle where nations come against Christ. When Christ Returns, gets His Church, and sets up His Kingdom here on Earth, 3 1/2 years later will start the Millennium Period (1,000 yrs) This is when satan is bound, and all his demons, this is when the 144,000 make it through the Tribulation Period (7 yrs = first 3 1/2 yrs - then Christ Returns or no flesh shall be saved - then the last 3 1/2 years) these 144,000 will repopulate the Earth during the Millennium. After the 1,000 years satan will be released, and he will resurrect all the dead in him, and all the demons, and they will attach the New City Jerusalem, there will be the last battle, Good verses Evil, the last showdown. When they lose (which satan does not believe he will) is when they will be cast into Hell, never to return again. There will be two battles over the New City Jerusalem, one by mankind, the other by demonkind.
i am going to come up with a webpage, a chart that i have written, to show all the time frames of events, yeah, that is what i will work on next.

Well there is so much to say on what has been revealed to me, i don't know where to begin. Above a very little of what is to come, please read my website, chapters that are related are

Meaning of life
The Beast
Mark of the Beast
Pre-trib
Two Way to Heaven

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Re: New City Jerusalem
« Reply #6 on: Tue Oct 09, 2012 - 08:44:09 »
why do you think it's called the "new" Jerusalem? 

Because it became the new heaven earth reality for not just the Jews of the old covenant- but for all believers.

The "new" way for Israel became the faithful, spiritual, and moral way for all believers.


How do I prove that? Well, it's written in Galatians.  The New Jerusalem is the "Mother of us all."  It is in the hearts of the faithful, moral and spiritual disciples.



 

     
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