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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2012, 05:40:26 PM »
Lehigh:
1Co 13:10  But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
What is your point with this verse?

Read the preceeding posts.

Do you know what Paul meant by "that which is perfect?

Yes that which is perfect is when we are glorified in Gods Kingdom, it happens at the rapture, then we will know as we are known, we will  see Him, and be just like Him.

You didn't know that did you, It hasn't happened yet.
1Co 13:12  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Much to the contrary, it has happened. You just need to realize the correct interpretation of what Paul wrote. Let me know if you understand it better after you read it and meditate on it a couple of times, ok?




 ::noworries:: The know it alls here know little.
 

That's the beauty of doing one's own studying.  You don't have to remain stuck with what tradition may have taught you, especially if they preached prophecy to you instead of glorifying God in the Faith.


You say one dosn't study
You say one is stuck with what tradition has taught
You say one dosn't glorify God in the faith

You continue to say wrong.

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2012, 07:48:33 PM »
Lehigh:
1Co 13:10  But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
What is your point with this verse?

Read the preceeding posts.

Do you know what Paul meant by "that which is perfect?

Yes that which is perfect is when we are glorified in Gods Kingdom, it happens at the rapture, then we will know as we are known, we will  see Him, and be just like Him.

You didn't know that did you, It hasn't happened yet.
1Co 13:12  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Much to the contrary, it has happened. You just need to realize the correct interpretation of what Paul wrote. Let me know if you understand it better after you read it and meditate on it a couple of times, ok?




 ::noworries:: The know it alls here know little.
 

That's the beauty of doing one's own studying.  You don't have to remain stuck with what tradition may have taught you, especially if they preached prophecy to you instead of glorifying God in the Faith.


You say one dosn't study
You say one is stuck with what tradition has taught
You say one dosn't glorify God in the faith

You continue to say wrong.

I know it's hard to realize that there is a better interpretation for "that which is perfect"  than you'd care to admit.

But it's a much more plausible interpretation than simple tradition has.

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2012, 10:06:14 PM »
Lehigh:
1Co 13:10  But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
What is your point with this verse?

Read the preceeding posts.

Do you know what Paul meant by "that which is perfect?

Yes that which is perfect is when we are glorified in Gods Kingdom, it happens at the rapture, then we will know as we are known, we will  see Him, and be just like Him.

You didn't know that did you, It hasn't happened yet.
1Co 13:12  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Much to the contrary, it has happened. You just need to realize the correct interpretation of what Paul wrote. Let me know if you understand it better after you read it and meditate on it a couple of times, ok?




 ::noworries:: The know it alls here know little.
 

That's the beauty of doing one's own studying.  You don't have to remain stuck with what tradition may have taught you, especially if they preached prophecy to you instead of glorifying God in the Faith.


You say one dosn't study
You say one is stuck with what tradition has taught
You say one dosn't glorify God in the faith

You continue to say wrong.

I know it's hard to realize that there is a better interpretation for "that which is perfect"  than you'd care to admit.

But it's a much more plausible interpretation than simple tradition has.


You certinally havn't described it, you just accuse, then answer the accusations with more accusing.















Lehigh

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2012, 01:27:44 PM »

 I see that not only grammar about "this" generation, but also spelling seems to be a challenge to boot!  ::noworries::

 

inthenow

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2012, 07:17:11 PM »

 I see that not only grammar about "this" generation, but also spelling seems to be a challenge to boot!  ::noworries::

 
The truth is what matters, but you keep on your way, being concerned about other things.

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2012, 04:44:02 PM »

 I see that not only grammar about "this" generation, but also spelling seems to be a challenge to boot!  ::noworries::

 
The truth is what matters, but you keep on your way, being concerned about other things.

That's what I have said. Jesus promised to return to those in His generation. If you don't believe Him, then what good is "truth?"

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #51 on: May 08, 2012, 04:56:04 AM »
When was this prophecy fulfilled?

Act_1:11  Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #52 on: May 11, 2012, 08:27:45 PM »
When was this prophecy fulfilled?

Act_1:11  Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
It is yet to come and that prophecy is none other but the end of the world or the 2nd coming of the Lord. In that day, all in the universe will explode and the last one to explode is our planet.

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #53 on: May 11, 2012, 09:07:26 PM »
When was this prophecy fulfilled?

Act_1:11  Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
It is yet to come and that prophecy is none other but the end of the world or the 2nd coming of the Lord. In that day, all in the universe will explode and the last one to explode is our planet.

 Something exploded alright!   ::whistle::

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2012, 04:01:27 AM »
When was this prophecy fulfilled?

Act_1:11  Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
It is yet to come and that prophecy is none other but the end of the world or the 2nd coming of the Lord. In that day, all in the universe will explode and the last one to explode is our planet.

 Something exploded alright!   ::whistle::
you are biblical, don't you? haven't you read that from the bible?

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #55 on: May 14, 2012, 11:03:39 AM »
When was this prophecy fulfilled?

Act_1:11  Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
It is yet to come and that prophecy is none other but the end of the world or the 2nd coming of the Lord. In that day, all in the universe will explode and the last one to explode is our planet.

 Something exploded alright!   ::whistle::
you are biblical, don't you? haven't you read that from the bible?

Exactly. Jesus said He came to destroy the world, not to save it.  Not!

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2012, 08:05:01 PM »
 

 There is no more prophecy to come.  It's over. and fulfilled.  Why can't futurists live by Faith instead of arguing which fictional story of Jesus coming or antichrist, or what bad tribulation they expect to come?

       Why are futurists so negative and insist that they call His coming a "hope" when it really makes their heart sick?

    Is it a denominational thing?   ::juggle::  It's really sad to read I tell ya.  

                        


So, you believe that we are in the 1,000yr reign of Christ of rest?

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #57 on: May 18, 2012, 04:02:53 PM »
 

 There is no more prophecy to come.  It's over. and fulfilled.  Why can't futurists live by Faith instead of arguing which fictional story of Jesus coming or antichrist, or what bad tribulation they expect to come?

       Why are futurists so negative and insist that they call His coming a "hope" when it really makes their heart sick?

    Is it a denominational thing?   ::juggle::  It's really sad to read I tell ya.  

                        


So, you believe that we are in the 1,000yr reign of Christ of rest?


When did Jesus tell the apostles He was returning for a 1,000 year reign?  And I do mean literally. ???

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #58 on: May 20, 2012, 04:49:56 AM »
You answer this question first .... and then I will demonstrate for you why you are the one who is "so negative",  and that the Lord most assuredly gave the apostles His intent to bring a future millennial kingdom upon the earth

Why is it that LH corrupts scripture by taking things out of context and by concocting a trick question of   "this ... or that" instead of both with regard to faith and the Lord's more sure word of prophecy?

[The answer to this is simple .... for the purpose of attempting to morph the scriptures into the heresy of hyper-preterism .... one facet of this insidious and subtle attack upon the Lord's Word is to convince that His prophecies are meaningless, when in fact these things are the very proof of what His Word claims to be]

So tell the form about the following passage scripture and why you carve it up for your rendering
 

2Peter
1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;

1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;

1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

1:12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.

1:13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance;

1:14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.

1:15 Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance.

1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

1:18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

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Re: The just shall live by Faith, not prophecy!
« Reply #59 on: May 20, 2012, 05:05:40 AM »
Really?

You tell me how you know this and give specific evidence

.... tell you what I think .... I think you are one who comes to make argumentation and assumption

I do not entertain those of your make-up on christian message boards [if you want discussion from me you will have to do so by PM]