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What is the Sign of the Prophet Jonah?
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What is the Sign of the Prophet Jonah?

Luke 11
Seeking a Sign

29 And while the crowds were thickly gathered together, He began to say, “This is an evil generation. It seeks a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah the prophet.[f] 30 For as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so also the Son of Man will be to this generation. 31 The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation and condemn them, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here. 32 The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here.

and Matthew 12
The Scribes and Pharisees Ask for a Sign

38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from You.”

39 But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41 The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here. 42 The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here.

What do you think it means?

EDEN2004, I would especially appreciate your thoughts here.

I will share my thoughts as soon as I have finished them, I'm trying out a word processor which checks my spelling and punctuation too.

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What is the Sign of the Prophet Jonah?
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« Reply #1 on: Sun Aug 05, 2012 - 23:12:02 »
The sign of Jonah excerpt - Bodie
Matthew - Biography of the King

The King is informing the nation that the end has come. It is useless to ask Him now for signs. He had given mighty signs already; but an evil and adulterous generation could not be changed morally by signs. One sign He would yet give them, "the sign of the prophet Jonah," who had lain in the belly of the great fish, for three days and three nights. Jonah, who was as tho' raised from the dead, had been a sign to the Ninevites who repented at his preaching. But the Son of Man, who will in reality be in the grave three days and three nights, rejected and cast out by the world, will preach in vain by His resurrection. They, more hardened than the people of Nineveh, will not even then repent. The Ninevites would rise up in the judgment and condemn them, so much the more as the Son of Man was greater than Jonah. The Queen of the South also would rise up in judgment; for she came from the end of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon. Here in their midst was the much greater whom they would not hear.

The prophet Jonah was a double sign, to Israel first, as we have noted, of Christ as dead and risen; and then of themselves. They like the disobedient servant Jonah, were cast out into the midst of the nation (the sea), where they have been submerged for almost three thousand years; as the ten tribes were scattered some seven hundred years before Christ came. But one of these days, the world like the fish, will empty them out on dry land, Palestine, and they, as Jonah, will preach repentance to the Gentiles and thereby nations will be saved.

But now the Lord continues His words of rebuke for their unbelief. He predicts the end of that boasting, self-righteous generation, who rejected their Messiah. They were cleansed from idolatry; but it was only as if the evil spirit had gone out for a moment, of his own volition, not cast out. Therefore he would return and with seven other spirits more evil than himself dwell therein. Hence the last state of Israel will be worse than the first. Later He gives them some of the details of that awful time, as is recorded in the twenty-fourth chapter of this Gospel of Matthew.

While the rejected King is still speaking, we have a most significant occurrence recorded - His mother and His brethren came, desiring to speak with Him. We read in Mark's record that even His friends thought that He was beside Himself (chap. 3:21), which no doubt gave rise to fear that He would go too far in His mistaken zeal and the Jews would harm Him. Hence, His family came to get Him away from the mob which were thronging Him. Alarm for His personal safety brought them, tho' Matthew gives us no hint of this. He rather would connect the conduct of His family, in their unbelief as to His Deity, while acknowledging and claiming Him as one with them after the flesh and with that of the whole nation. The latter would have accepted Him, after He had wrought His mighty signs and wonders, if He had not reproved their evil deeds and shown up the filthy rags of their self-righteousness. He manifested in the constitution of His Kingdom, the Sermon on the Mount, the absolute holiness of its requirements. That necessitated the death of the old creation and this stirred their rage. He rejected them after the flesh. They rejected Him after the Spirit. As Son of David they would accept Him. As Son of God they refused Him. Hence His action and words here are pregnant with meaning. "Who is my mother and who are my brethren?" He cries. Then stretching out His hand over His disciples, He said, "Behold my mother and my brethren; for whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother and sister and mother." No claim of the flesh was allowed or acknowledged. His Father is in heaven and He claims kinship with all those who do His Father's will. That implies a new birth, a heavenly life; for these only desire, or are able to do the will of God. Therefore He rejects them as the old creation; for they have rejected Him as the New Creation. And then we read, "He went out of the house," Israel's house, and He is still out. Their house is left unto them desolate, is that to which this points.

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Re: What is the Sign of the Prophet Jonah?
« Reply #2 on: Wed Apr 16, 2014 - 08:00:02 »
Yahuah wants the people,gentiles and Israel, to repent to him from the heart so that he can show them mercy in forgiveness of sins. The people would not just get up and repent because they don't know Yahuah as the Mighty Creator and were not under the covenant that was breached by Israel when the turned to Idols.The people will only repent when they see a sign that proves Yahuah is the might Creator to be worshiped. Yahusha aka Jesus was this sign to prove to the people in worki g miracles of healing that Yahusha indicate is of the power of Yahuah. The people did not beleive as they said the powe could have been oc other source, similar to moses with the power of the  staff and other persons that were magicians not of Yahuah. For this reason the people ask for a different sign than healing people. Yahusha in comparing himself to Jonah indicated that the only sign he will show will be that of Jonah but greater. Jonah was beleived to have died never to be seen alive again but was saved by Yahua from eternal death proven on the third day when the fish vomited him on shore, after which Jonah yelled Yahuah yashaeth or similar. Because of this the people of Nineveh repented to Yahuah before the 40 day judgment as only the ruler of Israel could do that.

Yahusha  was cruxified thaught to have died never to be seen alive again. But Yahuah saved him from eternal death proven on the third day similar to Jonah so that the people will beleive this as a sign and repent to Yahuah before death or judgment day.

Yahusha was a greater sign in that Jonah was for the people of Nineveh fornthe judgment in 40 days while he was for the entide world for judgement after many years to come. Also, Yahusha crucifixion took a way sin of the forefathers and allow people to be judged by their own heart as their forefathers sin is not of their heart where the renewed covenant is, for those who beleived the sign and getting a clean sheet of sin being born again metapmetaphorically. Jonah was not a sacrifice like that.

Yahuah Yasha conjugated is Yahusha making Yahuah saved from eternal death after repentance. The people would not have understood what Yahusha said untill after the crucifixion and some people to this day don't  beleive he was a sign for people to repent to Yahuah from the heart to be shown mercy before judgment day.

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Re: What is the Sign of the Prophet Jonah?
« Reply #3 on: Sun Feb 08, 2015 - 02:34:03 »
The prophet of Jonah.

The Pharisees and scoffers demanded of Christ a sign. He rebuffs, saying they will receive no sign but that of the prophet Jonah.

Like Jonah was in the belly of the whale for three days before seeing again dry land, Jesus laid in the belly of the earth, before He was resurrected.

But this closely resembles another passage. Isaiah 7 records the message of Isaiah to the king Ahaz. Isaiah, prophesying asks Ahaz to request for a sign. Ahaz refuses. So the LORD says, "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."

God asked for the people, represented by the king to ask for a sign, and it was refused.

At this time, that Jesus speaks with His detractors, they mock Him, asking for a sign, when He is the sign of the prophet Isaiah, and He responds saying, You will receive no sign but that of the prophet Jonah.

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Re: What is the Sign of the Prophet Jonah?
« Reply #4 on: Fri Sep 11, 2015 - 01:05:01 »
Great answers.

Jonah preached national judgment on Nineveh to occur in 40 days and they believed and repented.

Jesus preached national judgment on Israel to occur in 40 years but they didn't believe and didn't repent.

Thus the generation that Jonah preached to proved far wiser and rose up to condemn the generation that Jesus preached to. Jesus is Messiah and far greater than Jonah and performed far greater works than Jonah.
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