The Apostles, or should I say disciples at that time, baptized in water but Jesus did not baptize. This baptism was the same as Johns baptism, it only pointed to salvation in Christ. The words were REPENT. It required the same faith as as the needed for the sacrifices. It was faith that saved, not Johns baptism or the baptism in the name of the Lord, only the faith.
Mar 1:4 John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.
Luk 3:3 And he came into all the district around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.
Actually we are saved by grace.
I've been following the conversation. I would like to point out two things.
1) By saved, we must have a timeline.
1 Peter 1
3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, 5 who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
These and many other verses point out that we are here in the waters of life until we are saved from the waters. We are the fishers of men. We are here to do the work.
2) 1 Peter 3 tells you how to see the water in relation to both salvation and beasts being refined by the waters.
19 After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.[e] It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at God’s right hand—with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.
The Ark saved 8. The water saves the rest. God is not giving up on the imprisoned spirits. What happens to them when they come in contact with the authorities in and through the Son (Colossians 1)?
35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again.
There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection
. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. 37 They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.
We don't know what it is like in the pit. We have no vision to know what it means to wander as a soul apart from a body. Faith is only part of this miserable picture. Christ is overcoming an older order of sin and death. We are not aware of how this works. We DO know that baptism is in the water. Life is lived here.
In John 3, which you have been discussing, what came before this chapter?
23 Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name.[d] 24 But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. 25 He did not need any testimony about mankind
, for he knew what was in each person.
Not only did these people have faith, they were eye witnesses. They knew who the Messiah was. The could see him and HAD FAITH. More than faith, they had fact. What did Jesus do? He would not entrust himself to them. Why? They MUST be born again. It was not time for salvation. Do we need to walk to the altar of a church and receive Christ? NO! He does not need our testimony. He knows who the elect are. He knows that the water must save the rest. Seven Angels and one Christ. That makes 8. The water saves the rest.
He's the one bringing us here. He is the Lord of Hosts. Our body is the Host.
21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it.
19 But your dead will live, Lord;
their bodies will rise—
let those who dwell in the dust
wake up and shout for joy—
your dew is like the dew of the morning;
the earth will give birth to her dead.
Eventually, your mind will get it. Life is HERE! Rest is in heaven. We have a chamber.
20 Go, my people, enter your rooms
and shut the doors behind you;
hide yourselves for a little while
until his wrath has passed by.
21 See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling
to punish the people of the earth for their sins.
The earth will disclose the blood shed on it;
the earth will conceal its slain no longer.
Where does Christ go? To prepare a place for you. Many mansions. Has the groom come for the bride? NO! Not yet. We are waiting. Where are we waiting? How long have you been here? The promises that were made to past generations were stated as future promises to them. How can they gain better resurrection to receive the promises? They must be born again.