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Choice or no choice or chosen ?
« on: Mon Sep 14, 2015 - 11:35:20 »
Adam and Eve had freewill - but after the Fall we have a flawed will and a flawed will is not free as Paul realised and mentions at Rmns.7:14-25 - as regards choice we must see and accept that in Him we truly live and move and have our being - in all the major areas of our life we have had no choice for we did not choose where, when and who we were born to or our sex male or female - white or brown or black skin, eyes, hair, ugly or handsome, short or tall or fat, able or disabled, brainy or dumb, we did not choose our religion, family, relations, etc etc as the major factors in our lives - any comments - wincam   

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Re: Choice or no choice or chosen ?
« Reply #1 on: Sun Feb 14, 2016 - 11:49:04 »
We do have a choice, it's call free will to choose

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Re: Choice or no choice or chosen ?
« Reply #2 on: Sun Feb 14, 2016 - 11:51:31 »
we did not choose our religion

Oh yes we do have a choice. Make it wisely  ::amen!::

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Re: Choice or no choice or chosen ?
« Reply #3 on: Tue Nov 01, 2016 - 03:14:36 »
Wincam, can you qualify then your question? Or perhaps you can define and qualify the "choice" you are speaking about or the "free will" you are talking about.

Thank you.

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Re: Choice or no choice or chosen ?
« Reply #4 on: Tue Nov 01, 2016 - 06:09:37 »
we did not choose our religion

Oh yes we do have a choice. Make it wisely  ::amen!::


Interesting statement. From what I know about people that have converted to Christianity, they claim that they were raised to believe and adhere to that which the family believed. It's not really fair of Christians to say that people of other religions have rejected Christ if they never knew Him, or what they did know of Him was limited and rejected by their own religion, in short they are just being faithful to the religion they were born into, so wincam does have a point.

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Re: Choice or no choice or chosen ?
« Reply #5 on: Tue Nov 01, 2016 - 06:34:05 »
Adam and Eve had freewill - but after the Fall we have a
Depraved will that is in bondage to sin and the devil. The first Adam sinned, and believed a lie, and died spiritually as well as physically later on. It was God who willed most everything for his elect. We have little choice on most things concerning our life as wincame wisely said. I had no say so about even whether or not I wanted to be born~God made that for me and set my life into motion. Much about my life before conversion was predetermined by God, not me. Even after conversion, God has guided my life in SPITE of my foolishness and has delivered me from many of pitfalls. Most of our life as with Joseph of old was order and determined by God for his own glory and purposes. So many examples could be given from the scriptures. Consider David of old, how his personal life was a perfect picture of Christ in many ways, even his suffering written down in the Psalms are spiritually applied to Jesus Christ!
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Choice or no choice or chosen
Mostly chosen~but all three can be applied in different area's of our life.

 

     
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