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So that there is no more question...
« on: Wed Jun 06, 2012 - 13:43:28 »
I submit the following scripture PROOF requirement for all people rather they are Jew or Gentile. No more wondering if they need to receive Christ if they plan to see heaven. No more false promises of them EVER attaining peace without it. Those who lie to the Jews to tell them that they do not need to receive the Word to see the kingdom of God because God is going to RESCUE THEM are teaching a lie from the pit. Jesus said as he was talking to a JEW. Save the unbelieving Jews who we are indebted to for our salvation before it is too late. There are no second chances once we pass on.

John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
KJV

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So that there is no more question...
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Offline Michael A

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Re: So that there is no more question...
« Reply #1 on: Fri Jun 08, 2012 - 04:52:40 »
"That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

YES!

Our natural parents come together and procreate us, passing onto us their own life, a human life, created life, the life God breathed into Adam.  We inherit the character from our father.  All that Adam had to pass on to his offspring was natural human life.  The genes and chromosomes (the detailed plans for our natural body) come from our natural parents.  This "natural birth comes first,  is our first birth, and is the firstborn.  This natural life is passed on from generation to generation.

However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual.
1 Corinthians 15:45-47

When a person Hears the Word of God, faith in God is born in Him.  For the Word of God is God's Spiritual Seed.  When we receive God's Word into our heart it is the same thing (in the Spiritual Realm) as a woman receiving the seed of her husband in the natural realm.

God recreates us as Spiritual children of His, members of His own Family, sons of God propagated by God's Word, Given Life by Gods Spirit.

This is God's Design.

It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1 Corinthians 15:43-45

You could imagine this life on earth, as a kind of womb.  As they say... "Mother Earth" heh heh heh.  Remember thet we are made of earth, and Adam's name means red earth.

Not unlike Esau (the firstborn of Isaac- a picture of the natural birth) struggling in his mothers womb with Jacob (the second born, representing the Spiritual birth).

We know that the greater blessing belonged to the firstborn; Esau.  But he did not receive it because he did not esteem it more than his carnal appetites.  Isn't that how all natural born men are?

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Corinthians 2:13-15

You see where this is going...

It is a "spiritually discerned" allegory God has given us so that we can know and understand.  But remember that understanding FOLLOWS obedience.  All who do God's commands have a good understanding.

Remember that the firstborn had to be redeemed shortly after being born.  Now do you get the picture?

We have two natures as it were, in conflict.  The natural man is a part of this human flesh, and above all things the "self" wants to survive.  But the New nature imparted to us from Christ being born in us demands allegiance too, and a life of allowing the natural man to be crucified.

No one can serve two masters.  So each of us must choose, continually, whether to serve our self life or crucify it with it's carnal appetites so that we can follow and obey God. 

Remember and be reminded that it is us who are led by the Spirit of God (that means we choose to follow His Voice) who are the sons and daughters of God.  It's not easy believism is it?

This is what Jesus was explaining to Nicodemus when he came to Jesus in the darkness of night. Well, I expounded a little more on it too.

Love,
Michael A



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Re: So that there is no more question...
« Reply #2 on: Fri Jun 08, 2012 - 19:53:53 »
I am in unison with you we are of ONE MIND in Christ.

We are son's of God by His indwelling Seed as in "sperma" which is His Word.

 Esau represents the hairy animal nature being our flesh. It is what keeps us down, in the dust of the earth living below our level serving our lusts. Cain was of the same seed of the serpent, Abel was his twin (again bore Abel), but Jacob/Israel was willing to wrestle all night long with the Word in order to be Blessed by God.
Our mother-land is from above she is heavenly Jerusalem the free woman whom when we are born from above(again) we are no longer in bondage to the laws of this world, for our thoughts are being transformed by the renewing of our minds to higher thoughts for we have the mind of Christ and we need no man to teach us for the Spirit teaches us and brings all things and is no lie. So we are learning how to do righteous, so that no laws are needed.
As you know, our Father does not give the same piece of manna to all His children, because He wants them to come together and share their spiritual meals with one another. If He gave it all to one then we would not learn to need each other. Reasoning together Breaking Bread, gives us opportunity to all taste what the Word says and come to unity of understanding as godly children who's soul purpose is to find the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Sad to say that is not always the intent of some. I guess there will always be TWO sides ; ) if you get my meaning.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
KJV

Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
KJV

Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
KJV

Jesus said talking to the church body:Matt 7:

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24 , I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth themKJV
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
KJV
Isa 66:6 A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompence to his enemies.

7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.

8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.KJV


Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.


Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
KJV

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.KJV

Jesus is the Door and we are being formed in our mothers womb, hidden under the blood in Christ as we develop into the fulness or full term son's of God.

Blessings my brother

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Re: So that there is no more question...
« Reply #3 on: Sat Jun 09, 2012 - 13:29:39 »
I enjoy Breaking Bread with you too, Sis'.
You are right on about the communion of the Saints.

So, you liked my salad, yes?
I'm glad.

I received the recipe from our our old friend Isaiah, Chapter One, verse eighteen.

Cummin
Lettuce
Raisin
TOGETHER!

The most important ingredient, of course (as you see) is the TOGETHER.
For we are His Body, and no one in the Right Mind hates His own Body.

Later, Sister.

Michael A

Mark 12:28-34 for Desert

PS: Thanks for bringing the Oil!
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Re: So that there is no more question...
« Reply #4 on: Sat Jun 09, 2012 - 17:39:28 »
I enjoy Breaking Bread with you too, Sis'.
You are right on about the communion of the Saints.

So, you liked my salad, yes?
I'm glad.

I received the recipe from our our old friend Isaiah, Chapter One, verse eighteen.

Cummin
Lettuce
Raisin
TOGETHER!

The most important ingredient, of course (as you see) is the TOGETHER.
For we are His Body, and no one in the Right Mind hates His own Body.

Later, Sister.

Michael A

Mark 12:28-34 for Desert

PS: Thanks for bringing the Oil!


Now that was something I had never had before, Great salad you fixed for our shared meal I love the little nuggets you added.
 That is right if we love our body(members)as our own self then we shall share our bread with them and them with us so that the body grows together as we feed on one another till we come into fullness of Christ.

Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
KJV

I hate to eat and run but... Have a good day Brother Michael A...ngel

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