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Re: When Jesus Was Born.
« Reply #35 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 07:59:37 »
I say that Jesus was not a Jew of the flesh as according to the law of Moses.

His only link to the Jews of the flesh was his mother.

His Father is a Spirit.

Jesus was a Jew of the Spirit.



Jesus is 100% God and 100% man---Jewish man.

I have already proven what I said is truth. With proof it is truth. you can ignore it. So what.

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« Reply #36 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 08:00:17 »
I say that Jesus was not a Jew of the flesh as according to the law of Moses.

If He was not a Jew according to the flesh he could in no way fulfill or obey the Law of Moses as that covenant was given ONLY to the "Jews of the flesh."  There was also no way the Jewish Messiah could be a gentile.

He was not a gentile.  His mother was Jewish and God is neither Jew or Gentile.

You cannot prove any different.  And I can prove he was not a Jew of the flesh.




No you can't.

Already did.

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« Reply #37 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 08:01:32 »
I have proved everything I have stated.  With proof.

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Re: When Jesus Was Born.
« Reply #38 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 08:02:00 »
I say that Jesus was not a Jew of the flesh as according to the law of Moses.

His only link to the Jews of the flesh was his mother.

His Father is a Spirit.

Jesus was a Jew of the Spirit.



Jesus is 100% God and 100% man---Jewish man.

I have already proven what I said is truth. With proof it is truth. you can ignore it. So what.

You have not proven anything.

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« Reply #39 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 08:08:51 »
He was not a gentile.  His mother was Jewish and God is neither Jew or Gentile.

You cannot prove any different.  And I can prove he was not a Jew of the flesh.

Since a gentile is DEFINED as someone OTHER than a Jew according to the flesh, your statement makes no sense.

If you can prove "... he was not a Jew of the flesh," then you have PROVEN he was a gentile.
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Re: When Jesus Was Born.
« Reply #40 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 08:17:18 »
I say that Jesus was not a Jew of the flesh as according to the law of Moses.

If He was not a Jew according to the flesh he could in no way fulfill or obey the Law of Moses as that covenant was given ONLY to the "Jews of the flesh."  There was also no way the Jewish Messiah could be a gentile.

 
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« Reply #41 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 10:57:37 »
He was not a gentile.  His mother was Jewish and God is neither Jew or Gentile.

You cannot prove any different.  And I can prove he was not a Jew of the flesh.

Since a gentile is DEFINED as someone OTHER than a Jew according to the flesh, your statement makes no sense.

If you can prove "... he was not a Jew of the flesh," then you have PROVEN he was a gentile.

If you can read you can read that I said Jesus was not a Jew of the flesh as according to the law of Moses.

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« Reply #42 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 10:59:18 »
Here are the facts.

The Father of Jesus was not a Jew.

Now what is the law of Moses concerning this?


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Re: When Jesus Was Born.
« Reply #43 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:00:28 »
Here are the facts.

The Father of Jesus was not a Jew.

Now what is the law of Moses concerning this?


The Father of Jesus calls the Jewish people His chosen.  Christ came from God's chosen people.

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« Reply #44 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:03:41 »
Here are the facts.

The Father of Jesus was not a Jew.

Now what is the law of Moses concerning this?


The Father of Jesus calls the Jewish people His chosen.  Christ came from God's chosen people.

Are you a Jew?

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« Reply #45 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:18:12 »
Here are the facts.

The Father of Jesus was not a Jew.

Now what is the law of Moses concerning this?


The Father of Jesus calls the Jewish people His chosen.  Christ came from God's chosen people.

Are you a Jew?

what? What does that have to do with anything? This op isn't about me.
 

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« Reply #46 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:30:04 »
I just wanted to point out you are not a Jew.

And I am a Jew.

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« Reply #47 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:32:14 »
I just wanted to point out you are not a Jew.

And I am a Jew.

What does that matter to the OP?

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« Reply #48 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:34:47 »
I just wanted to point out you are not a Jew.

And I am a Jew.

What does that matter to the OP?

It matters to God.

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« Reply #49 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:35:53 »
I just wanted to point out you are not a Jew.

And I am a Jew.

What does that matter to the OP?

It matters to God.

okie dokie.
 

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« Reply #50 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:39:17 »
I have proved that Jesus is not a Jew of the flesh but a Jew of the Spirit.

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« Reply #51 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:40:57 »
Did Jesus ever offer up animal sacrifice for sins?

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« Reply #52 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:41:16 »
I have proved that Jesus is not a Jew of the flesh but a Jew of the Spirit.

lol!
no, you acutally haven't.
what you've done is share your opinion on the subject.
that's all.
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« Reply #53 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:42:18 »
Did Jesus ever offer up animal sacrifice for sins?

Jesus didn't sin...the blood of the animal sacrifice was for atonement for sin. (It was an incomplete one..had to be done over and over)

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« Reply #54 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:43:01 »
I have proved that Jesus is not a Jew of the flesh but a Jew of the Spirit.

lol!
no, you acutally haven't.
what you've done is share your opinion on the subject.
that's all.
 ::smile::

That is your opinion. That's all.

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« Reply #55 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:43:58 »
Did Jesus ever offer up animal sacrifice for sins?

Jesus didn't sin...the blood of the animal sacrifice was for atonement for sin. (It was an incomplete one..had to be done over and over)

That was not my question.

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« Reply #56 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:44:53 »
Did Jesus ever offer up animal sacrifice for sins?

Jesus didn't sin...the blood of the animal sacrifice was for atonement for sin. (It was an incomplete one..had to be done over and over)

That was not my question.

well...that's my answer

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« Reply #57 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:45:23 »
I have proved that Jesus is not a Jew of the flesh but a Jew of the Spirit.

lol!
no, you acutally haven't.
what you've done is share your opinion on the subject.
that's all.
 ::smile::

That is your opinion. That's all.
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« Reply #58 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:48:33 »
Did Jesus ever offer up animal sacrifice for sins?

Jesus didn't sin...the blood of the animal sacrifice was for atonement for sin. (It was an incomplete one..had to be done over and over)

That was not my question.

well...that's my answer

It is the wrong answer. To the question.

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Re: When Jesus Was Born.
« Reply #59 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:49:56 »
Did Jesus ever offer up animal sacrifice for sins?

Jesus was the perfect Lamb of God who offered Himself up to be sacrificed for the sin of the world.
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« Reply #60 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:50:37 »
Did Jesus ever offer up animal sacrifice for sins?

Jesus didn't sin...the blood of the animal sacrifice was for atonement for sin. (It was an incomplete one..had to be done over and over)

That was not my question.

well...that's my answer

It is the wrong answer. To the question.

not so much, really.  ::eatingpopcorn:

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« Reply #61 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:51:38 »
Did Jesus ever offer up animal sacrifice for sins?

Jesus didn't sin...the blood of the animal sacrifice was for atonement for sin. (It was an incomplete one..had to be done over and over)

That was not my question.

well...that's my answer

It is the wrong answer. To the question.

not so much, really.  ::eatingpopcorn:

That what I said about your wrong answer.

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« Reply #62 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:56:44 »
Did Jesus ever offer up animal sacrifice for sins?

Jesus didn't sin...the blood of the animal sacrifice was for atonement for sin. (It was an incomplete one..had to be done over and over)

That was not my question.

well...that's my answer

It is the wrong answer. To the question.

not so much, really.  ::eatingpopcorn:

That what I said about your wrong answer.

Ok. So you asked if Jesus ever offered up animal sacrifice for sins.
My answer was that Jesus didn't sin.
 ::shrug::
Then you slide in and say Jesus was the sacrifice for sin.
Yep. No agruement, but it isn't the same thing you asked in the first place you know?

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« Reply #63 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 11:59:15 »
Did Jesus ever offer up animal sacrifice for sins?

Jesus didn't sin...the blood of the animal sacrifice was for atonement for sin. (It was an incomplete one..had to be done over and over)

That was not my question.

well...that's my answer

It is the wrong answer. To the question.

not so much, really.  ::eatingpopcorn:

That what I said about your wrong answer.

Ok. So you asked if Jesus ever offered up animal sacrifice for sins.
My answer was that Jesus didn't sin.
 ::shrug::
Then you slide in and say Jesus was the sacrifice for sin.
Yep. No agruement, but it isn't the same thing you asked in the first place you know?

How old are you?

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« Reply #64 on: Wed Aug 29, 2012 - 12:01:58 »
Did Jesus ever offer up animal sacrifice for sins?

Jesus didn't sin...the blood of the animal sacrifice was for atonement for sin. (It was an incomplete one..had to be done over and over)

That was not my question.

well...that's my answer

It is the wrong answer. To the question.

not so much, really.  ::eatingpopcorn:

That what I said about your wrong answer.

Ok. So you asked if Jesus ever offered up animal sacrifice for sins.
My answer was that Jesus didn't sin.
 ::shrug::
Then you slide in and say Jesus was the sacrifice for sin.
Yep. No agruement, but it isn't the same thing you asked in the first place you know?

How old are you?
Not about me.

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« Reply #65 on: Mon Sep 03, 2012 - 19:12:00 »
I have proved that Jesus is not a Jew of the flesh but a Jew of the Spirit.

From what I know, the Jews believe it is by their mother that makes them a Jew, probably because it says "The Seed of the Woman" when God rebuked the serpent. But the Woman means ISRAEL/Jacob are the son's and so they believe it is the mother who carries the seed in the natural. But in the natural, the father of a child contains the seed to produce the child and the bloodline is also of the father, for none of the blood of the mother ever goes into a child. Our spirit is contained in our blood. But in the Spirit we are born again from above by our mother heavenly Jerusalem. God is all attributes of male and female, but of no gender as in a natural way.
 
John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
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Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
KJV

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« Reply #66 on: Mon Sep 10, 2012 - 09:53:39 »
Gal 4.4 But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law,

If Jesus had NOT been a natural Jew he could not be "born under the law."

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« Reply #67 on: Mon Sep 10, 2012 - 09:57:18 »
And corelary to that, there would have been ample opportunity that required Him to offer sacrifices growing up. If he did not, he was invalid as our sacrifice.