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2 Cor 6:18 VS Gal 3:28 !!
« on: Thu May 03, 2018 - 17:56:46 »
 Hi to all and in 2 Cor 6:18 it reads , And I will be a Father to you and you will be  sons  and  daughters  to Me says  ( the )  LORD !!

 In Gal 3:28 it reads that  " there can  not  be  MALE  and  FEMALE  ,   for you are  one  " in Christ "  Jesus !!

 How will you reconcile these 2 verses ??

 What say you ??

 dan p

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Re: 2 Cor 6:18 VS Gal 3:28 !!
« Reply #1 on: Thu May 03, 2018 - 18:23:26 »
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


The emphasis is no distinctions.
All in Christ are the very children of God.
God is not playing favorites among His children according to any earthly condition.

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Re: 2 Cor 6:18 VS Gal 3:28 !!
« Reply #2 on: Thu May 03, 2018 - 18:57:57 »
 Hi and there has to a difference as Gal 3:28 says that in Christ there are no  MALES  and  FEMALES !!

2 Cor 6:18 says the Father has  sons  and  daughters and did you address both verses ?

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Re: 2 Cor 6:18 VS Gal 3:28 !!
« Reply #3 on: Thu May 03, 2018 - 19:33:04 »
God isn't that caught up in our gender, He sees us all as equal children before Him.

That He says "sons and daughter" just means He is speaking to us as we understand life around us.  We are either male or female, but God doesn't care about that, just that we are His.

It is not hard to reconcile the two verses. 

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Re: 2 Cor 6:18 VS Gal 3:28 !!
« Reply #4 on: Thu May 03, 2018 - 19:56:31 »
We are all His sons (as meaning all of His children), even though we are make and female.

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Re: 2 Cor 6:18 VS Gal 3:28 !!
« Reply #5 on: Thu May 03, 2018 - 20:05:10 »
Hi to all and in 2 Cor 6:18 it reads , And I will be a Father to you and you will be  sons  and  daughters  to Me says  ( the )  LORD !!

 In Gal 3:28 it reads that  " there can  not  be  MALE  and  FEMALE  ,   for you are  one  " in Christ "  Jesus !!

 How will you reconcile these 2 verses ??

 What say you ??

 dan p

In Galatians 3:28, Paul is saying that, while people may have been ranked and judged according to their social and gender roles prior to Christ, in Christ that is no more. All in Christ are equally justified before God.

In 2 Corinthians 6:14-7:1, Paul is encouraging the members to not unite themselves to people that would pull them away from faithfulness to God. In verses 16b-18, he quotes from several O.T. passages, including Isaiah 43:6:

Isaiah 43:6-7.
I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back; bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the end of the earth; every one that is called by my name, and whom I have created for my glory, whom I have formed, yea, whom I have made.

I suggest two reasons why Paul mentions both sons and daughters in that 2 Cor context. First, he is, of course, being basically true to the Isaiah passage. Second, he is telling them not to be yoked, or bound together, with unbelievers. Whether he is talking strictly about marriage, or other forms of bonding including marriage, it makes sense (to me, anyway) to speak to both genders so that both the men and women among the believers will know they all have the individual responsibility to be careful who they choose as partners.

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Re: 2 Cor 6:18 VS Gal 3:28 !!
« Reply #6 on: Thu May 03, 2018 - 21:20:01 »
Bible Roulette is a really stupid approach to hermeneutics.

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Re: 2 Cor 6:18 VS Gal 3:28 !!
« Reply #7 on: Fri May 04, 2018 - 03:55:34 »
One can understand both scriptures by understanding what sense Paul was speaking of :
Quote from: Paul
Galatians 3:28~"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
There is neither Jew nor Greek~Of course we know that the church at the beginning had both Jews and Gentiles based upon many scriptures, but the true sense in which Paul is speaking is that there is no difference between them, the middle wall of partition being broken down, and that, in the doctrine of justification and salvation~ it signified nothing whether a man was a Jew or a Greek; he was never the better for being a circumcised Jew, nor never the worse for being an uncircumcised Gentile; both by nature are equally sinners, and stand in need of the justifying righteousness of Christ, and the regenerating grace of the Spirit. The Gospel was equally preached to both, and was made useful to some of the one and of the other; and who, believing in Christ, had a right to the same ordinances and privileges of the Gospel, and shared in the same blessings of grace through Jesus' obedience/righteousness.

There is neither bond nor free~There were such persons in the world then, and now and in the churches too; We also know that the gospel does not dissolve the civil and natural relations and obligations men are in and under to one another, it confirms and secures them; but the sense is, that God, in calling, justifying, and saving men, is no respecter of persons, as being high and low, rich and poor, bond or free, servants or masters: he calls, justifies, and saves men of every station and condition of life; and bond slaves and servants called by grace are Christ's free men, and have an equal right as those that are free to all the immunities of the Gospel. The book of Philemon is an excellent book to read in considering this scriptures before us.

there is neither male nor female~Under the Jewish law there were different commandments for men than for women in some laws. Among Jews the males only were concerned in many things both of a civil and religious nature; no female might be heir to an inheritance with a male; females had no share in the civil government, nor in the priesthood; males were to appear three times a year before the Lord, and, according to their oral law, women and servants were exempted; the mark of circumcision, the sign of the covenant made with Abraham and his natural seed, was only upon the males; but now under the Gospel dispensation there is no distinction made between male and female as to divine things; as they are alike called by the grace of God, they have the same right to Gospel ordinances, baptism and the Lord's supper, and to every spiritual blessing. The apostle's design is to show the common right of believers, of every nation, condition, and sex, and to encourage the Gentiles, and demolish the pride, vanity, and boasting of the Jews, their men especially, who valued themselves upon these "three" very things which the apostle here makes no account of; as that they were Israelites and not Gentiles, freemen and not servants, men and not women.

Of course, there are males and females in the churches of Christ/God and let the females know that she has a lord called her husband that she must obey and follow. A godly man will treat his wife as God's child and in the same manner that he would desire to be treated. Every Godly man will love his wife EVEN AS Christ loved the church, at least that should be his aim every day, may God forgive us, when we fall short, and we do often....well, every day to be truthful. 
« Last Edit: Fri May 04, 2018 - 04:04:01 by RB »

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Re: 2 Cor 6:18 VS Gal 3:28 !!
« Reply #8 on: Fri May 04, 2018 - 13:08:33 »
 Hi and words do mean some thing , I am always told , and they have meaning !!

 All 4 verbs that are used here are in the Greek  PRESENT TENSE  and Paul is speaking to the Body of Christ !

 These means that is the  B O C  all those  that are  PLACED / BAPTIZO  by the Holy Spirit , 1 Cor 12:13  lose there  IDENTITY  as Jew , Gentiles , Bond ot Free and there  CAN  NOT  BE  Male or  FEMALE  as we  ARE /ESTE , PRESENT TENSE  which is speaking to the  B O C ,  we are  " in Christ  "  is a phrase only proclaimed by Paul so 120 times !!

 Since  there  ARE  NO  FEMALES in Heaven  the VIRGIN MARY  is not there !!

 Because we are in Christ  , that means OSAS !!

 Gal 3:28  begins , There can not be Jews  NOR  Gentiles  !!~

 Col 3:11  begins ,  Where there  can not be Greek and Jew , WHY ??

 After Israel was set aside  as written by Paul  in 2 Cor 3:13-15  their is a switch from Jew  to  GENTILES  as Paul's message is to GENTILES  ONLY !!

 dan p