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Offline Fg

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Believing in God
« on: Wed Jul 17, 2019 - 20:42:04 »
I’m sorry if put this in the wrong forum and I don’t want to aggravate anyone but, I have a question.

If you tempt God and fail (like say you say: “I will prove that God exists by winning $100,000 plus on my Wheel of Fortune video game” and fail), can God still exist?
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Re: Believing in God
« Reply #1 on: Wed Jul 17, 2019 - 21:09:37 »
Quote from: Fg on Wed Jul 17, 2019 - 20:42:04
I’m sorry if put this in the wrong forum and I don’t want to aggravate anyone but, I have a question.

If you tempt God and fail (like say you say: “I will prove that God exists by winning $100,000 plus on my Wheel of Fortune video game” and fail), can God still exist?

Any efforts to test God, to try and get Him to display Himself according to our will, are absolutely doomed to fail.

No such efforts, and the inevitable failed responses from Him, should be what determines His existence. His existence should be understood and accepted through how He expresses Himself in His creation and in His word.
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Re: Believing in God
« Reply #2 on: Thu Jul 18, 2019 - 03:18:33 »
Quote from: Fg on Wed Jul 17, 2019 - 20:42:04
If you tempt God and fail (like say you say: “I will prove that God exists by winning $100,000 plus on my Wheel of Fortune video game” and fail), can God still exist?
Well, turn your question around and let's say you did that and won~that still does not prove that God IS and that he is a rewarded of them that diligently seek him.
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Hebrews 11:1-6~"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him."
Tempting God is NOT seeking him~soterion said it well:
Quote from: soterion on: Yesterday at 21:09:37
Any efforts to test God, to try and get Him to display Himself according to our will, are absolutely doomed to fail. No such efforts, and the inevitable failed responses from Him, should be what determines His existence.
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can God still exist?
God is the I AM THAT I AM regardless of man's unbelief or his faith, though ever so small. He has given to his children MANY infallible proofs. See and consider: Romans 1:19,20; etc.  
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Re: Believing in God
« Reply #3 on: Tue Jul 23, 2019 - 05:55:00 »
I found in a Christian bookshop this book: IN SIX DAYS – Why fifty (50) scientists chose to believe in creation. Edited by John F. Ashton PhD.

In the PREFACE it is written:  “In this book, 50 scientists explain their reasons for this choice. All the contributors have an earned doctorate from a state-recognized university in Australia, the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, South Africa, or Germany. They in¬clude university professors and researchers, geologists, zoologists, biologists, botanists, physicists, chemists, mathematicians, medical researchers, and engineers.

“The articles in this book are not exhaustive. Space and pub¬lishing deadlines did not permit me to include contributions from many other scientists. The 50 scientists who contributed to this effort gave their personal response to the question, "Why do you believe in a literal six-day biblical creation as the origin of life on earth?" No other requirements were specified. No one was asked to write on a particular topic or from a particular perspective. However, I have arranged the final papers in two sections that allow for a developing discussion from two key perspectives. The first, Science and Origins, is a selection of articles that deals with the scientific critique of evolution as well as the scientific basis for creation. The second, Religion and Origins, presents a more philosophical approach to the question of evolution and creation. Having reviewed the discussions posed by these scientists, in the light of my own education and experience, I am convinced that a literal understanding of the Genesis account of creation is the most reasonable explanation out of all the current theories of how we came to be here.” - John F. Ashton
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