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"as Christ also loved the church"
« on: Tue Feb 26, 2013 - 12:19:30 »
"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish." (Ephesians 5:25-27)

Jesus loved us by giving Himself for us.
We meet with Him, at the cross,

in this gentle light of His love,
so we see things the way He does . . .
up close and personal with Him . . .
by loving the way He loved . . .
we share with Him.

It's like how a daughter might not get how mommy is so fussing over her, to discipline her and teach her the right way. But when baby girl grows up to become a mommy of her own daughter, then is when she discovers all her mother was caring about and how it was for mommy to deal with impossible little baby-girl. And so, then she knows her mother, so better, by loving like her mother was doing (c: And so, they can then be so intimate, because they now are sharing the same experience and feelings and caring.

So, like this, husbands are told to love like Jesus has done . . . so now, in loving their wives like this, they can be so close to Jesus and feel all He feels and how He cares (c:

And it says for husbands to love their wives, like how Jesus is washing His church-bride with
"water by the word, that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish." So, how he loves his wife is for preparing her for Jesus, not only for getting what he wants for himself.

"He is seeking first the kingdom of God for her."

Much is required, then > how the lady is submissive to her husband, but also how her man is to love her by washing her with the word so she becomes
"holy and without blemish" in God's love, in the church.

So the cross of Jesus is our cross of love, including how God wants us to love.

So, explanation is not all there is to this. We need to do it.

Only You, God our Father, can bring us to all this means to You. Thank You so much, that we carry this cross of loving, not only of suffering. And so, Christianity also is not only about solving our problems, then.

So, here we are, now, on this subject, right when our church has a marriage seminar weekend coming up (c:

Brian was saying how we who are couples can need to go to a little weekend retreat in order to restore our marriages. Or, go in order to get help to do better > even ones who are doing well need to keep on for how we can do better. But, of course, he said, one weekend is not all there is to fixing a marriage if ones are in trouble. Ones need to all the time be working with each other for all that is better.

And, as he was saying this, I thought of how I recently read that there are people who try to use Valentine's Day to rescue their marriages; and when this does not work they get divorces > in the United States, there are more divorces after Valentine's Day, than at any other time of the year.

So, like this, if we have problems in a marriage, we are wise to gain the good we can with a marriage ministry weekend, but then not to depend on only one weekend, because we need to all the time be seeking God and laboring with one another to do better. And I would say don't give up, do not push and pressure the other, but be with God in prayer like how He does not give up on us, and be there for the other with your example of not giving up and also being more into loving and caring and ready to share, ready to forgive and forbear, but also creative to enjoy. Be committed, that there will be no excuse of what the other does > you will not let anything about the person get you bitter or negative, but you will seek God, instead . . . first (c:

And do this with others, too . . . practice makes perfect! (c: Your loving with others can help you get better for your spouse, and can exercise you to get stronger for your marriage.
"For if you love those who love you, what reward have you?" (in Matthew 5:46)

And one of our love friends has said, "Stay with it."

We are not just solving problems, then, but seeking and growing
"to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God." (Ephesians 3:19) So, yes, this is about getting more and more into intimacy with God, along with each other so we are also intimate in this with one another. Go this way and see who is here with you (c:

"I'm going to church, to see who is in church."

"I'm going into intimacy with God, to see who is in intimacy with God."

Good to see you, God bless you and everyone, thanks for stopping by and for your prayer and example to help us learn how to love (c: Bill
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Re: "as Christ also loved the church"
« Reply #1 on: Tue Feb 26, 2013 - 14:34:38 »

Bill, a lovely post.

I think that marriages do need time and effort.
I and my husband are both  in our second marriage (of 8 years this year). Its very happy and we are truly soul mates, but we still try and go on a marriage course or marriage weekend evey 2 years or so. Its like a check up, as you would have for a car,to keep things running smoothly.

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we need each other
« Reply #2 on: Wed Feb 27, 2013 - 13:49:25 »
Hi, Chosen One ::smile:: We need each other. Paul says we're all "members of one another", in Romans 12:5 and Ephesians 4:25. Members of a body depend on each other . . . no member depending on only one other member. So, I can see that married couples do need how others can help them and enrich them.

I understand that certain seminars and ministries can be one-size-fits-all and theoretical, while in truth each couple is unique, I would say, and they can enjoy discovering how God wants to create their special relationship. But I think there can be good groups, and prayer and word of mouth can get you where you have ministers and other couples who do each other good. Plus, help those who are hurting > Brian was saying it can be good for even ones doing well to still go to a seminar or retreat > well, it can be good also for them to be there to help ones in much more need.