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Title: What family characteristics are in the thought of the Father.
Post by: Volkmar on Thu Jul 28, 2011 - 20:14:31
With God nothing is ever impossible and no word from God shall be without power or impossible of fulfillment. (Luke 1:37 AMP)

It seems that when the Lord Jesus chose His twelve disciples there was, at the back of the choice and back of the purpose of having a company of men always with Him - the intention of showing and expressing what the character of the Firstborn is so far as relationship to other members of the Family is concerned. To put that in another way: if we study the characteristics of the Lord Jesus in relation to His own when He was here on the earth, we have a good example of what family characteristics are in the thought of the Father. For instance, take the imperfections, the shortcomings, the weaknesses of the twelve and see what the attitude of the Lord Jesus was toward them. The Holy Spirit takes no pains to cover up those faults and those flaws. There is no attempt made whatever to present those men as an ideal group. Their picture is painted true to life and all the difficult lines are there - the bad and the good - and nothing unpleasant is hidden from view. None of the lines are taken out of their faces. They are all clearly seen. The Lord Jesus was not dealing with an easy company, but a company which might often have provoked despair. But one thing was characteristic of Him in relation to a difficult handful, and that was His faith for them.

What faith the Lord Jesus had for those men! It was not that He had faith in them, neither was it that He had faith for them because of what He saw in them; but He had infinite faith in the Father for them. His attitude was: "Well, nothing is impossible with God. Here are these men; they are difficult and they could easily be My despair; they never seem to understand what I say! They always seem to get the wrong interpretation; they always seem to miss the point. When I say a thing they get it from an altogether wrong angle; they are utterly materialistic in their outlook, in their expectation and in their desires. They never see far beyond this world and their own personal interests. They seem totally incapable of getting a spiritual conception. And yet the Father can do wonders with a handful of men like that; nothing is impossible."
  By T. Austin-Sparks from: Filled Unto All the Fullness of God - Chapter 10 (
Title: Re: What family characteristics are in the thought of the Father.
Post by: JERRY C on Fri Jul 29, 2011 - 16:49:08

If ones image of God does not look like Jesus, then they are wrong!!

to see Jesus, clearly, correctly, completely, is to see God.

Jesus treated with respect and concern and love -- women, lepers, outcasts, tax-collectors, prostitutes, half-breeds, foreigners, widows, elderly, cripples, ...

I want a God like that, because, I am like that.

[I buried my father last year; he was a man who mirrored Jesus; "Father" is a good word, to me!]

But, sadly, "Family of God" does not always have the same connotation as "Church of Christ".
Title: Re: What family characteristics are in the thought of the Father.
Post by: comfy on Sat Jul 30, 2011 - 00:52:59
They were feeling superior by association with Jesus, I would say, but not following His example. Jesus, though, did not give up on them. This is how I need to keep having hope for Christians I know, instead of just tagging them "church people" so I can . . . feel superior ::doh:: :: ::frustrated::
Title: Re: What family characteristics are in the thought of the Father.
Post by: Volkmar on Mon Aug 01, 2011 - 21:19:45
I've come to think that Peter, James, and John constituted the "remedial" group, and that's why Jesus took those three with him up on the mountain ... to keep 'em out of trouble with the rest of the boys.

Women seem to get it better and faster.