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Question: Should Doctors be forced to violate their morals?
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« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2006, 10:11:50 PM »
Familiarity does not make something right.

Of course I doubt that you and I would agree on your definition of coercion.  I would probably call it persuasion or bargaining.
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« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2006, 10:15:18 PM »
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Of course I doubt that you and I would agree on your definition of coercion.  I would probably call it persuasion or bargaining.
I think that the Communist Party official bargained and negotiated with those doctors then.[/color]
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« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2006, 10:45:58 PM »
And you see this Communist Party official style negotiating everyday in the workplace here in the States.  Uh huh.  And exactly where would this be?
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« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2006, 12:34:37 AM »
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With some doctors, it is the Hypocritic Oath.
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« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2006, 07:31:52 AM »
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There is no doubt that coercion works, but you were advocating it as the right thing to do.
Are you saying coercion is WRONG?

You see it everyday at the workplace here in the states.[/color]
Yeah, right.  Everyday on the street where my office is located there's a dude with a flatbed truck with a loudspeaker on the roof who drives through slowly announcing "BRING OUT YOUR DEAD"!  Businesses then drag out all those employees that were shot and throw them on the back of the truck.
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They turned me loose from the nervous hospital.  Said I was well.  Mmm hmm.

Suffering for your beliefs is called faithfulness, making others suffer for your beliefs is called being a jerk.

His cross, like the ark in the wilderness, is the center around which his people are to encamp; so that they cannot separate into factions, or withdraw from each other, without retiring at the same time from the presence of the cross.
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« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2006, 04:37:58 PM »
They have that in your town too Nick?  Gee . . .
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And you see this Communist Party official style negotiating everyday in the workplace here in the States.  Uh huh.  And exactly where would this be?
The only difference is in the degree.
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There is no doubt that coercion works, but you were advocating it as the right thing to do.
Are you saying coercion is WRONG?

You see it everyday at the workplace here in the states.
Yeah, right.  Everyday on the street where my office is located there's a dude with a flatbed truck with a loudspeaker on the roof who drives through slowly announcing "BRING OUT YOUR DEAD"!  Businesses then drag out all those employees that were shot and throw them on the back of the truck.[/color]
Somebody's been watching Monty Python
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« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2006, 08:25:05 PM »
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There is no doubt that coercion works, but you were advocating it as the right thing to do.
Are you saying coercion is WRONG?

You see it everyday at the workplace here in the states.
Yeah, right.  Everyday on the street where my office is located there's a dude with a flatbed truck with a loudspeaker on the roof who drives through slowly announcing "BRING OUT YOUR DEAD"!  Businesses then drag out all those employees that were shot and throw them on the back of the truck.
Somebody's been watching Monty Python[/color]
Mmm hmm.
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They turned me loose from the nervous hospital.  Said I was well.  Mmm hmm.

Suffering for your beliefs is called faithfulness, making others suffer for your beliefs is called being a jerk.

His cross, like the ark in the wilderness, is the center around which his people are to encamp; so that they cannot separate into factions, or withdraw from each other, without retiring at the same time from the presence of the cross.
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« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2006, 08:53:04 PM »
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And you see this Communist Party official style negotiating everyday in the workplace here in the States.  Uh huh.  And exactly where would this be?
The only difference is in the degree.[/color]
Uh huh.  Like the difference between water at 100 degrees and 150 degrees.  One's a bath, the other's a burn.
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And you see this Communist Party official style negotiating everyday in the workplace here in the States.  Uh huh.  And exactly where would this be?
The only difference is in the degree.
Uh huh.  Like the difference between water at 100 degrees and 150 degrees.  One's a bath, the other's a burn.[/color]
What temperature does water begin to boil anyway?
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« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2006, 06:49:18 AM »
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And you see this Communist Party official style negotiating everyday in the workplace here in the States.  Uh huh.  And exactly where would this be?
The only difference is in the degree.
Uh huh.  Like the difference between water at 100 degrees and 150 degrees.  One's a bath, the other's a burn.
What temperature does water begin to boil anyway?[/color]
212 at sea level.  Less at higher elevations.  I've heard, but don't know this for a fact, that at some of the higher altitudes that planes fly in that blood would boil in your body if the cabin wasn't pressurized.  Anyone out there know this to be fact or bunk?
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taller, better looking and smarter . . .

They turned me loose from the nervous hospital.  Said I was well.  Mmm hmm.

Suffering for your beliefs is called faithfulness, making others suffer for your beliefs is called being a jerk.

His cross, like the ark in the wilderness, is the center around which his people are to encamp; so that they cannot separate into factions, or withdraw from each other, without retiring at the same time from the presence of the cross.
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« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2006, 08:23:42 AM »
Very interesting discussion.  As a general rule, I say no, doctors should not be forced to violate their morals.  However, if their morals include the fact that the world is overpopulated and we need to give as many people as possible lethal injections to lower the population - then yes, they need to violate a moral like that.

So I guess it just depends on what morals a doctor has.
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« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2006, 04:13:15 PM »
I think doctors should be forced to follow my morality.
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« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2006, 05:18:15 PM »
Quote from: Barry H. Manners on June 20, 2006, 04:13:15 PM
I think doctors should be forced to follow my morality.

Is your name Dickie Flatt?
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