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« on: Sun Feb 13, 2011 - 21:31:05 »
What's going on on Mount Athos with this monastery?

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« Reply #1 on: Fri Feb 18, 2011 - 12:23:10 »
The quick reply is that the monks oppose some of the teachings and actions of the Patriarch of Constantinople, under whose leadership they are placed by canon.  This has been going on for decades.  Unfortunately, the government of Greece has decided to enter the fray, which is wholly unhelpful.  If the govt stood down, the standoff would still exist between the monks and the Patriarch, but there would be less violence.

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« Reply #2 on: Fri Feb 18, 2011 - 22:50:29 »
The quick reply is that the monks oppose some of the teachings and actions of the Patriarch of Constantinople, under whose leadership they are placed by canon.  This has been going on for decades.  Unfortunately, the government of Greece has decided to enter the fray, which is wholly unhelpful.  If the govt stood down, the standoff would still exist between the monks and the Patriarch, but there would be less violence.
What is the doctrinal issue between the monks and Bartholomew? They seem to think they have an obligation under one of their canons to do something that Bartholomew doesn't appreciate.

What does he want them to do, and why are they adamant about not doing it?

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« Reply #3 on: Sat Feb 19, 2011 - 08:29:23 »
The doctrinal issue is the promotion of heresy (the Patriarch has promoted greater fellowship with Rome, and in so doing has both implicity and explicitly agree to doctrines Rome teaches which Orthodox view as heresy).

They want the Patriarch to repudiate these actions.  He does not, so they are resisting such actions, standing firm in the Orthodox faith.

Of course, other less than Christian actions have happened as well, but these are the underlying causes and motivations.

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« Reply #4 on: Mon Feb 21, 2011 - 17:57:25 »
Thank you.

Which is right, from your standpoint?

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« Reply #5 on: Mon Feb 21, 2011 - 17:59:38 »
I have greatly (perhaps overly) simplified the core issues.  Let me be clear about that.

I am also no fan whatsoever of the current Patriarch of Constantinople.

I think the scales tip in favor of the monks.

However, I do not condone all that the monks have done.

 

     
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