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Offline Catholica

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Our Lady of Lourdes
« on: Mon Oct 10, 2011 - 13:57:27 »
This question I ask out of curiosity...

What is the Eastern Orthodox point of view with regard to the Apparitions of Our Lady of Lourdes?  I know that Eastern Orthodoxy has great veneration for our lady, but what about this apparition in particular?  Thousands of documented and undocumented healing miracles, and all this revealed to a very humble girl in France.  

Yet at one point, the skeptical priest asked Bernadette to ask the lady for her name.  In response the Apparition replied "I am the Immaculate Conception".  The questionable point is that the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception is one that I know Orthodox have a problem with.

You have what appears to be an authentic apparition of our Blessed Lady with miracles that still happen at that site today, but also a name which the lady named herself which conflicts with what has been accepted in Orthodoxy.

Anyway, the question arose in my mind, so I'd appreciate input from the Orthodox faithful.

BTW its not going to be very useful for those who are not Catholic or Orthodox to reply to this topic.  Its not really about whether you believe the apparitions are true or false, that veneration of our Lady is good or bad.  This is a question for those who are Orthodox in light of their faith tradition.

Thanks in advance.

« Last Edit: Mon Oct 10, 2011 - 16:10:13 by Catholica »

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Re: Our Lady of Lourdes
« Reply #1 on: Thu Oct 13, 2011 - 05:56:04 »
In general, Orthodox do not object to Marian apparitions per se--there have been many such in the lives of the saints.  But of course, such apparitions must be tested--they must conform to the Faith once for all delivered to the saints.

While the Orthodox Church has not formally anathematized the dogma of the Immaculate Conception, it is true that IC does go against Orthodox teaching on the nature of grace, free will, human nature, soteriology, etc.  Thus, if IC is inseparable from the Lourdes apparition, then Orthodox would say that the Lourdes apparition could not be genuine.

Miracles alone do not validate a teaching or practice--everything must conform to the Faith once for all delivered to the saints.  Miracles may be demonic (Satan masquerades as an angel of light, the demonized servant girl of Acts, etc.).  They may also simply be God's gracious condescension and not at all an authentication of a teaching or practice.

Offline Joel, the Son of Pethuel

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Re: Our Lady of Lourdes
« Reply #2 on: Sat Apr 07, 2012 - 10:56:52 »
Generally speaking, a good path to take is not to judge what happens outside the walls of the church. The Marian apparitions may or may not be genuine, but it is not our place to judge. I would agree with CDHealy that this particular apparition, as well as others, have aspects that are inconsistent with Orthodox teaching. Thus, the Orthodox should leave them alone and let God be the judge at the last day.