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Are the dead in heaven NOW?
« on: February 23, 2012, 08:54:45 PM »
1. (LUKE 23:42-43) It tells us that ONE of the men Hanging besides Jesus ask Jesus to remember him when Jesus comes into HIS KINGDOM
2. Jesus replies: Verily I say to you today you will be with me in paradise.

There are 2 ways to read this:
1. That Jesus told this man he would be with Jesus in paradise THIS very day (day they die)
2. That Jesus only made the promise THAT day to the man.

The THINKER believes in the 1st one, that the day we die were with Jesus in Heaven.
I say it's the second.
1. Jesus wasn't into his kingdom THAT very day so the man couldn't be with him.
2. Paradise is HEAVEN (2cor 12:4. -  Rev 2:7)
3. Jesus isn't in His kingdom (1000 yr reign)
SO this isn't a verse to use!!! As Jesus was talking that that day a promise was made.


Dan 11:44 are the armies of (east) CHINA. (north) RUSSIA
11:45 is the Antichrist armys and the FIRST army for Armageddon.
Dan 12:1 tells us the time of the rapture (when those in book of life) shall be delivered.
A. This is ALL believers as it's the book of life
B. Believers (ALL who are in the book of life) WHICH IS BOTH LIVING and DEAD believers.
Dan 12:2 says that many who sleep will awake to life (book of life 12:1)
and some to shame.
A. This is when BOTH the LIVING and the DEAD (rev 1:7) see Christ at THE SAME TIME!
Verse 12:4 tells us it the time of the end! And we know it is NOW when knowledge is increasing at it's highest rate and what this verse is talking about

This is worldly knowledge!
In Amos 8:11 we see that a FAMINE of GODS word in the last days. Which is NOW.

We see that BOTH Dan 12 says at same time as the dead believers (which is MOST believers) wake from sleep to find EVERLASTING LIFE! so these DEAD don't know that YET!

This is echoed in 1thess 4:13-18
13: were told not to WORRY about those WHO SLEEP that we will see them again.
14: that God will bring the DEAD with him (they are dead) if the Dead are with him in their new bodies then why are they referred to as DEAD?
A. God has to raise (bring) the dead to life and they DONT COME FROM THE GROUND (not their souls) their earthly body comes from ground (changed) when it rises out of the Gound.
15:those alive at rapture won't stop the dead from rising from their SLEEP.
16:the dead rise FIRST (we won't prevent their rising)
A. FIRST... which means someone else's rises second.
Again they rise first cause we won't stop them from rising (which means their first)
17: THEN, WHEN? THEN as in NEXT! the living who didn't prevent the dead to rise FIRST will then be CAUGHT UP TOGETHER! At the same time to meet for the FIRST TIME Jesus Christ.

 
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Re: Are the dead in heaven NOW?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2012, 09:08:37 PM »
1. (LUKE 23:42-43) It tells us that ONE of the men Hanging besides Jesus ask Jesus to remember him when Jesus comes into HIS KINGDOM
2. Jesus replies: Verily I say to you today you will be with me in paradise.

There are 2 ways to read this:
1. That Jesus told this man he would be with Jesus in paradise THIS very day (day they die)
2. That Jesus only made the promise THAT day to the man.

The THINKER believes in the 1st one, that the day we die were with Jesus in Heaven.
I say it's the second.
1. Jesus wasn't into his kingdom THAT very day so the man couldn't be with him.
2. Paradise is HEAVEN (2cor 12:4. -  Rev 2:7)
3. Jesus isn't in His kingdom (1000 yr reign)


Dan 11:44 are the armies of (east) CHINA. (north) RUSSIA
11:45 is the Antichrist armys and the FIRST army for Armageddon.
Dan 12:1 tells us the time of the rapture (when those in book of life) shall be delivered.
A. This is ALL believers as it's the book of life
B. Believers (ALL who are in the book of life) WHICH IS BOTH LIVING and DEAD believers.
Dan 12:2 says that many who sleep will awake to life (book of life 12:1)
and some to shame.
A. This is when BOTH the LIVING and the DEAD (rev 1:7) see Christ at THE SAME TIME!
Verse 12:4 tells us it the time of the end! And we know it is NOW when knowledge is increasing at it's highest rate and what this verse is talking about

This is worldly knowledge!
In Amos 8:11 we see that a FAMINE of GODS word in the last days. Which is NOW.

This isn't all but tonight it is....
 

If we die today, right this minute we do not go to heaven to be with Jesus?
::frustrated:: Headaches

I am not living in hell and if this is heaven then God lied and God is not a liar!!!

Pro 1:23  Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

1Jn 2:27  But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

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Re: Are the dead in heaven NOW?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2012, 09:25:59 PM »

If we die today, right this minute we do not go to heaven to be with Jesus?

Where do we go...I thought to be absent from the body meant we would be present to be with Jesus?
"If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body." (Philippians 1:22-24)

"Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. We live by faith, not by sight. We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord." (2 Corinthians 5:6-8)

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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2012, 09:29:11 PM »
1. (LUKE 23:42-43) It tells us that ONE of the men Hanging besides Jesus ask Jesus to remember him when Jesus comes into HIS KINGDOM
2. Jesus replies: Verily I say to you today you will be with me in paradise.

There are 2 ways to read this:
1. That Jesus told this man he would be with Jesus in paradise THIS very day (day they die)
2. That Jesus only made the promise THAT day to the man.

The THINKER believes in the 1st one, that the day we die were with Jesus in Heaven.
I say it's the second.
1. Jesus wasn't into his kingdom THAT very day so the man couldn't be with him.
2. Paradise is HEAVEN (2cor 12:4. -  Rev 2:7)
3. Jesus isn't in His kingdom (1000 yr reign)


Dan 11:44 are the armies of (east) CHINA. (north) RUSSIA
11:45 is the Antichrist armys and the FIRST army for Armageddon.
Dan 12:1 tells us the time of the rapture (when those in book of life) shall be delivered.
A. This is ALL believers as it's the book of life
B. Believers (ALL who are in the book of life) WHICH IS BOTH LIVING and DEAD believers.
Dan 12:2 says that many who sleep will awake to life (book of life 12:1)
and some to shame.
A. This is when BOTH the LIVING and the DEAD (rev 1:7) see Christ at THE SAME TIME!
Verse 12:4 tells us it the time of the end! And we know it is NOW when knowledge is increasing at it's highest rate and what this verse is talking about

This is worldly knowledge!
In Amos 8:11 we see that a FAMINE of GODS word in the last days. Which is NOW.

This isn't all but tonight it is....
 

If we die today, right this minute we do not go to heaven to be with Jesus?


No. Jesus isn't in his kingdom yet (1000 yr reign)
he waits till God makes his enemy's his footstool. (heb 10:13)
I added this above:

We see that BOTH Dan 12 says at same time as the dead believers (which is MOST believers) wake from sleep to find EVERLASTING LIFE! so these DEAD don't know that YET!

This is echoed in 1thess 4:13-18
13: were told not to WORRY about those WHO SLEEP that we will see them again.
14: that God will bring the DEAD with him (they are dead) if the Dead are with him in their new bodies then why are they referred to as DEAD?
A. God has to raise (bring) the dead to life and they DONT COME FROM THE GROUND (not their souls) their earthly body comes from ground (changed) when it rises out of the Gound.
15:those alive at rapture won't stop the dead from rising from their SLEEP.
16:the dead rise FIRST (we won't prevent their rising)
A. FIRST... which means someone else's rises second.
Again they rise first cause we won't stop them from rising (which means their first)
17: THEN, WHEN? THEN as in NEXT! the living who didn't prevent the dead to rise FIRST will then be CAUGHT UP TOGETHER! At the same time to meet for the FIRST TIME Jesus Christ.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 09:30:13 PM »

If we die today, right this minute we do not go to heaven to be with Jesus?

Where do we go...I thought to be absent from the body meant we would be present to be with Jesus?
"If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body." (Philippians 1:22-24)

"Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. We live by faith, not by sight. We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord." (2 Corinthians 5:6-8)

Grace I believe that with all my heart. I was just asking KB.
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I am not living in hell and if this is heaven then God lied and God is not a liar!!!

Pro 1:23  Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

1Jn 2:27  But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

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Re: Are the dead in heaven NOW?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 09:33:30 PM »
KB are you talking about "soul sleep", or that we go somewhere else before we go to heaven?
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I am not living in hell and if this is heaven then God lied and God is not a liar!!!

Pro 1:23  Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

1Jn 2:27  But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 09:38:18 PM »

If we die today, right this minute we do not go to heaven to be with Jesus?

Where do we go...I thought to be absent from the body meant we would be present to be with Jesus?
"If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body." (Philippians 1:22-24)

"Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. We live by faith, not by sight. We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord." (2 Corinthians 5:6-8)

We are not absent from this body until we are changed in the twinkle of an eye from corruptable to incorruptible (1Cor 15:52) which happens at our gathering together with Christ (2thess1:-2:3)

we see in 1 COR 15:51 that we BELIEVERS shall not all sleep (there are those who are still alive at his coming) But we shall be changed (52) and AGAIN the DEAD shall what? rise with their new bodies.


Ofcourse not all will sleep but the living get this new body at the time the DEAD do also!
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 09:53:15 PM »
According to Scripture, the soul leaves the body at death. The Gospels tell us that at the moment of his death, Jesus prayed, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!
"When we come to ask ourselves, and say, "Where did I learn this?" "How did I get this?" "Who taught me this?" it is astonishing to find how much we have imbibed from man, and from tradition; and not directly and for ourselves, from the Word of God. "


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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 09:56:02 PM »

If we die today, right this minute we do not go to heaven to be with Jesus?

Where do we go...I thought to be absent from the body meant we would be present to be with Jesus?
"If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body." (Philippians 1:22-24)

"Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. We live by faith, not by sight. We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord." (2 Corinthians 5:6-8)
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 09:56:49 PM »
According to Scripture, the soul leaves the body at death. The Gospels tell us that at the moment of his death, Jesus prayed, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!

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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 10:05:50 PM »
According to Scripture, the soul leaves the body at death. The Gospels tell us that at the moment of his death, Jesus prayed, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 10:08:55 PM »
Where did lazerous go, wasn't he in abbrahams arms. And the rich man was not asleep, he could see lazaerous?
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I am not living in hell and if this is heaven then God lied and God is not a liar!!!

Pro 1:23  Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 10:38:02 PM »
Where did lazerous go, wasn't he in abbrahams arms. And the rich man was not asleep, he could see lazaerous?

Luke 16:20-31
22. 1.we see both are dead
A. Lazarus is in abram bosom
B. Rich man's in HELL - (Jews teach that abrams bosoms a seprate part in hell.)
C. They can see each other.

The rich man is buried. And you assume that he goes straight to HELL?

How do you know this isn't Heaven? With HELL outside the gates, where they could still see one another....

Rev 22:14-15 tells us blessed is those who can enter THROUGH THE GATES of the CITY
15: tells us just outside those Gates are unbelievers - who can see through the gates and also can then see anyone coming or going (believers) we see in verse 12 Christ coming for his bride to take her to THIS CITY.

So who's to say that these two speak here and this is during jesus's 1000 yr reign on Earth. Where all will be under his rod of iron.... (unbelievers) after all we rule and reign with Christ over someone.... And that someone is all the eyes BOTH dead and living who see his coming. All the dead will see this and go through Gods wrath of Rev 6:16)

also when the rich man was told that his brothers wouldn't believe even if a dead man came back (lazareth) but Abram WASNT talking about him rising(lazareth) from the dead but JESUS rising from the dead. That they wouldn't still believe.
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2012, 10:44:58 PM »
Another important example is the appearance of Moses on the Mount of Transfiguration. The Word of God specifically states that Moses died and was buried by God in a valley in Moab opposite Beth Peor (Deut 34:5-6). Yet, when Jesus was transfigured almost 1500 years later, Moses appeared “in glory
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2012, 11:15:57 PM »
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1.Christ gave up his SPIRIT NOT SOUL - he gave up the Holy spirit!
2. Stephen fell ASLEEP
3. Ecc12:7) the holy spirit
soul and spirit are not the same. Everyone has a soul but only believers have both a soul and spirit!

If you believe still the same way then what about the scriptures I use that show this is wrong (belief that dead are in heaven)


Paul explains it well.......

I Corinthians 15:35 "But some man will say, "How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?"

Paul is now going to tell us what happens and we bury them in the ground. Pay attention so that you will understand and there will be no confusion. So if you believe in the resurrection, than how does it happen? Where does it take place, and with what body does the dead rise?

We are talking about the physical body and it's change. In other words, what happens to the flesh after death, and the soul after it has departed from the body?

I Corinthians 15:36 "Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:"

It is important to understand the word "quickened", Remember in verse 22 Paul stated; "in Adam all die, so in Christ shall all be made alive." This Greek word for "quickened" is the same Greek word for the "coming alive". It means that all, sinners and saints are made alive through Christ. It doesn't mean that the soul is raised to eternal life, for the soul is not the subject here, but the question is what happens to the physical body?

It means to "revitalize" [# 2227 in Strong's] the soul, and become conscience and ready for judgment. This doesn't mean that all souls are saved, but that all souls are given life to continue as they were. If that soul was lost, it will still be lost, but the final death will not take place until after this age of the flesh is over, after the Millennium age, and the Great white throne judgment is finish. Then will be the time of the "second death" or the death of the lost souls. It means that the soul has put off the flesh body, and put on their spiritual body, but their soul is still condemned to death if it is not in right standing with God.

Hebrews 4:12 "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."

By placing the Word of God in your mind, it becomes the standard for all of your thought, and it directs the intents of your mind, which is you heart. Christ is the Living Word, and He can discern the intent of your mind, you can't fool Him. Within man's soul is his spirit, and the spirit is the intellect part of His thought process.

You have to be able to separate those things to understand the resurrection. Paul is now going to explain our flesh body to us, not the soul, the spirit, or our thought process, but our flesh and blood body.

I Corinthians 15:37 "And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:"

Paul is comparing our flesh body with other living things, such as a grain of wheat. When the seed is separated from its parent plant it is as naked as a new born baby. This is the body of the wheat, and this is not the grain that you see coming for in new plants next year. This seed of wheat that you set aside for the next years crop is what must die before it can raise up again in a new form. That body of wheat is gone, and that is what happens to our flesh. It must die before the new beautiful spiritual body can come forth.

The flesh body must die and be buried in the ground, for no where is it recorded that a flesh body will resurrect from the dead. Christ's body did rise again, for it paid the price for our sins for one and all times. However, when Christ's body came out of the tomb, it had to be transfigured or flesh man simply could not see Him.

The body of the wheat or of flesh that dies and is planted in the ground is not the same body that springs forth into new life. It is the Spiritual body that ascends to be with the Father, not the flesh. Again the subject is the physical body.

When you plant any seed, flowers, corn, or wheat, there is an embryo deep inside of the body of that plant. As the body of the parent plant decays, it feeds this little embryo that is deep within that seed or kernel of corn. Then when the water, and temperature, and soil are just right, then that embryo springs forth into new life, and a new plant is formed. That is exactly as it is with our flesh body, the old flesh body must die before the new life of our new spiritual of soul body can come forth. The time that it takes for the new spiritual life to come from the death of the old flesh body is instant.

The instant that the flesh body dies, the soul and spirit body is present with the Lord that gave it in the first place. The flesh decays back into the elements of the earth that it is made of, and your soul returns to the Father. Paul could not have made it more simpler than the using of a grain of wheat in comparison to our flesh bodies. Just as all of nature functions, so it is with man.

I Corinthians 15:38 "But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased Him, and to every seed his own body."

The body that you have was given to you because it pleased God. We are talking about physical bodies now, and not the souls. Your body was given to your soul for the sake of pleasing God with it, and that is the only purpose that your soul exists in your physical body. Though the flesh body may miss a limb or part, the spiritual body within is still whole and complete. In all of nature, all seeds within them have their embryos for the sake of continuing life after they are gone.


I Corinthians 15:39 "All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds."


All souls when they return to the Father will at first rejoice, then some will have their countenance fall as they are sent to the other side of the gulf. The question here and now is, why would you even listen to any minister that would teach "soul sleep" which condemns a man to hell. Hell simply will not exist until after the Millennium age and the Great white throne judgment, and each soul has been judged?

If they would be so careless with God's Word on these matters, what kind of God is this man teaching you? Our God is fair, and He would not burn someone in hell before they are even judged. Our God is a loving God and He desire that no one be destroyed until after they have been instructed and given a choice to chose for themselves. Because of what is being taught today and during the time of the great deception, there will be a Millennium age. If you are sent to hell it is of your own choice. Thank God it is God that does the judging and not some one verse super preacher of today.

Those people that teach that the dead body is going to rise up out of the grave simply don't know what they are talking about. Flesh causes you to sin, and when we are done with this flesh body, it is done away with. Why would you want any part of that old decaying body. The flesh body dies to give your spiritual body new life and a new body that will not age and get sick.

I Corinthians 15:40 "There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another."

We are still taking about bodies, and not souls. "celestial bodies" are heavenly bodies, while "terrestrial bodies" are earthly bodies. Paul is telling you that within what you call "self", you have two bodies, and earthly body that will die off and return to the elements that it is made of, and a heavenly body or soul that at the death of the earthly body returns to the heavenly realm or dimension that it came from. Each of the bodies have their own glory or dignity and honor.

I Corinthians 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory."

This is as it is, and it is for this reason that God calls His children "stars". God asked Job to give Him answer to this question in Job 38. Job 38:7; "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" Each of the stars are different and so are each of the children that God created. Every one of them has a different body. Yet every last one of them was created for God's pleasure.

Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for Thou hast created all things, and for Thy pleasure they are and were created."

I Corinthians 15:42 "So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:"

This is what happens to the dead body, for this body is doomed to corruption of decay from the day each of us are born, to the day we die. That is the ageing process, and no matter how you try to extend your life, it will not be for more than a few years. When this flesh body is finished, the soul that is within it is raised in incorruption. We are talking about flesh bodies, and what happen to them.

We will be getting deeper into the difference between these two bodies, the corruptible body which ages, and is made of the dust and elements of the earth; and the incorruptible body which shall never age and get old. It will look the same through a thousand years as the day that it was created. It never gets sick, and has complete knowledge and recall. The difference between the two of these bodies is one is of flesh, while the other is spiritual and of a different realm.

Our flesh bodies are corruptible, and it is the greatest pollutant on the face of this earth. It is for the satisfaction of the needs of the flesh that all pollution is caused, whether in the air, in the waters, or across our land, all pollution is for the satisfying of these flesh bodies that are corrupting or decaying and need attention to be repaired. Flesh is corruptible. However when the corruptible body is planted in the earth, a new body comes for that does not desire nor need then things of the flesh to satisfy its needs. This new body is our incorruptible soul body.

I Corinthians 15:43 "It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:"

In the flesh body we fall short all of the time, whereas when our soul body is raised we have God's power within us. In that new body we will have that body that is not weak nor will it get sick and age. And when we are raised it is like being turned lose into a freedom that these fleshly minds can never understand. We are never to shorten the time in this flesh body that God has given us for we have a duty and mission here in the flesh, but on that day when it is all over, we will have that glory and power God has placed in our new incorruptible body.

In Adam we all die in the flesh, but in Christ we are raised incorruptible. Even sinners are replenished and brought back to their incorruptible state, some to be held for judgment and their trial and some for eternal rewards. Your flesh body is not what is judged, but your soul that is within that flesh body is returned to the Lord to for its rewards.

I Corinthians 15:44 "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body."

There is a natural body, which is your flesh body, and there is also a spiritual or soul body. The two are different and when the natural body, or flesh body dies the spiritual body is "raised", or in the Greek text "egiro, awakened, become active from its death". You have two bodies, one natural body contains your spiritual body, and that spiritual body is awakened to a new life, when the flesh or natural body dies and releases your soul. Your spirit and your soul are together, for the spirit is your "self", "the intellect of your soul" which houses your spirit within you.

Your spirit never leaves your soul, even at the death of your flesh body. Satan does not have any power over your spiritual body, but only your flesh body. Man and Satan can tare this flesh body to peaces and cause you to do all sorts of things, but no-one can damage your soul, not man, not Satan nor the angels. God is the only one that can destroy the soul and that comes at the end of the Millennium age, following judgment. However through deception Satan can cause you to sin against God, and thus be in trouble before the Almighty God. But that is why we have repentance in the name of Jesus to become right-standing before the Father again.

It just can't be made any clearer than Paul has made it here. You have two bodies, the flesh and the spiritual bodies. When the flesh body dies, then the spiritual body is awakened and come alive within itself. It starts to live a life without the baggage of the flesh body confining it to the limits of the flesh.

http://www.theseason.org/1corin/1corin15.htm

"When we come to ask ourselves, and say, "Where did I learn this?" "How did I get this?" "Who taught me this?" it is astonishing to find how much we have imbibed from man, and from tradition; and not directly and for ourselves, from the Word of God. "


How to Enjoy the Bible
E. W. Bullinger
1916


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