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Catching Up, Translation, First Resurrection
« on: Fri Feb 19, 2010 - 13:15:33 »
When does the "catching up" take place?

Revelation 12:4-5 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God and to His throne.

  • When is the child "caught up?" The "third part of the stars of heaven" are God's children that have/do/will fall to Satan's deception. They are cast from their place in heaven, which is spiritually being in God's kingdom while in a flesh body, to the earth, which is spiritually being cast out of His kingdom. The man child(ren) are in heaven while on earth...they are "strangers and pilgrims on the earth." [Heb.11:13]

    The man child/the saints are the child(ren) of the church/ the woman/ Israel. We strive to be of the saints and not those that lose our place in heaven through deception. The dragon stands before her to "devour" her children as soon as they are born....born again, born into the kingdom....

    John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


I used to understand the child, (man child/saints/elect) being "caught up unto God," as a future event...one that takes place at the last day. I no longer believe that is what is meant.....

Revelation 20:5-6 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

  • The "first resurrection" is spiritual and happens while we are in our flesh bodies. After our death it is too late to be of this resurrection! His man child/saints are translated, caught up, spiritually quickened, resurrected, illuminated, of the kingdom when they/we are delivered....


Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son;

Hebrews 10:32 But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;

  • "Hath delivered, hath translated, were illuminated"....past tense. If we are His saints then this happens when He calls us and when we "please Him." As happened to Enoch, "he should not see death," nor shall we for "the second death hath no power," on us if we are of the first resurrection. All of us must die once but He wants none of us to die the second death, that of our souls.


Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

  • The man child/saints also have the testimony "for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." [Rev.19:10]


So, the "first resurrection," the "catching up," our "translation," is spiritual and we are in His kingdom, in heaven, when He abides IN us. That happens when we take up our cross and follow Him. We are crucified with Him....

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth IN ME: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Colossians 1:26-29 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to His saints, To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ IN YOU, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect IN CHRIST Jesus: Whereunto I also labour, striving according to His working, which worketh IN ME mightily.

2:12-13 Buried WITH HIM in baptism, wherein also ye are risen WITH HIM through the faith of the operation of God Who hath raised Him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath He quickened together WITH HIM, having forgiven you all trespasses;

3:1-4 If YE THEN BE RISEN WITH Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid WITH CHRIST IN GOD. When Christ, Who is our life, shall appear, then shall YE ALSO APPEAR with Him in glory.

Ephesians 2:5-6 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together WITH CHRIST, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us SIT TOGETHER in heavenly places IN CHRIST Jesus:

  • God has given us an example, a type of what will be. At the end of days, when the last trump sounds and this flesh age ends....

Joshua 6:2 And the LORD said unto Joshua, "See I have given into thine hand Jericho, and the king thereof, and the mighty men of valour.

  • Joshua is a type of Christ. At the end of this age, after the tribulation of Satan.....He is given those we fight against...Satan and his crew. Here they are depicted as being of Jericho which is symbolic of the great city Babylon.


6:4 And seven priests shall bear before the ark seven trumpets of rams' horns: and the seventh day ye shall compass the city seven times, and the priests shall blow with the trumpets.

  • As Satan comes to earth first, pretending to be Christ at the 6th seal, 6th trump and 6th vial ( 666 ) we see here the arrival of Christ, the true Christ....7 priests, 7 trumpets, 7th day, 7 times. This is the 7th trump! This is representing the 2nd Advent of Christ.

6:5 And it shall come to pass, that when they make a long blast with the ram's horn, and when ye hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the city shall fall down flat, and the People shall ascend up every man straight before him."

What people are those that are gathered? Those that were illuminated, translated, of the first resurrection....Those that don't take the mark of the beast. When are they gathered? After the tribulation of Satan, at the 2nd Advent of Christ.....when the 7th trumpet sounds.



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Re: Catching Up, Translation, First Resurrection
« Reply #1 on: Fri Feb 19, 2010 - 13:39:24 »
Something this disjointed and speculative certainly belongs in the End Times Forum, I think.

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Re: Catching Up, Translation, First Resurrection
« Reply #2 on: Sat Feb 20, 2010 - 14:53:56 »
Something this disjointed and speculative certainly belongs in the End Times Forum, I think.


I'm sorry it's disjointed.  I have a tendency to add too much but the verses are all connected...at least in my mind.   ::smile::  I don't think it belongs in "end times" though because the "first resurrection" has been going on for quite some time now. 

In another topic the following came up and it relates to this subject....

Ezekiel 37:12-13 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, 'Thus saith the Lord GOD; 'Behold, O My People, I will open your graves, AND cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O My People, AND brought you up out of your graves.

  • God told us He would open our graves and also would cause us to come out of them. He told us that twice in the above passage. How and when did He open our graves?

Matthew 27:51-53 And, behold, the veil of the Temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after His resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

  • His resurrection opens our graves. What brings us "up out of" our opened graves?

Ezekiel 37:9-10 Then said He unto me, "Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, 'Thus saith the Lord GOD; 'Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.' ' " So I prophesied as He commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. (14) And shall put My spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it,' saith the LORD.

  • The breath of life, the Holy Spirit, is given us and we become spiritually alive....we come out of our graves. This happens while we are physically alive. We are spiritually resurrected....we are of the first resurrection while in a flesh body.

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Re: Catching Up, Translation, First Resurrection
« Reply #3 on: Sat Feb 20, 2010 - 20:34:00 »
I think you are way off on interpretation. The term resurrection is also used in a term "Come Forth".

Mt 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Mt 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.


Da 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.   

Graves
mnhmei'on Mnemeion (mnay-mi'-on);
Word Origin: Greek,  Noun Neuter, Strong #: 3419


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a memorial, monument, specifically, a sepulchral monument
a sepulchre, a tomb
 

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« Reply #4 on: Sun Feb 21, 2010 - 07:04:50 »
I think you are way off on interpretation. The term resurrection is also used in a term "Come Forth".

Mt 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Mt 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.


Da 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.   

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mnhmei'on Mnemeion (mnay-mi'-on);
Word Origin: Greek,  Noun Neuter, Strong #: 3419


any visible object for preserving or recalling the memory of any person or thing
a memorial, monument, specifically, a sepulchral monument
a sepulchre, a tomb
 



All of the above quotes I see as referring to our flesh lives.  Our graves/tombs/sepulchres  were opened upon His resurrection.  We come out of those opened graves when His spirit enters us....we "hear His voice" and "come forth" and "appear to many" as we share His Word with others. 


  • Matthew 28:2  And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

    Acts 16:26  And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.

The stone/rock keeping us in prison/graves, was/is Satan.....

  • Deuteronomy 32:31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.

He rolled away Satan's power over us and our bands are loosened.  Our part is to get up and walk away from that prison for His work is finished.  However, we must awaken, come out of the dust, leave the prison.....before we physically die.  We must be of the first resurrection (become spiritually alive) in order to be with Him.

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« Reply #5 on: Sun Feb 21, 2010 - 07:18:39 »

What people are those that are gathered? Those that were illuminated, translated, of the first resurrection....Those that don't take the mark of the beast. When are they gathered? After the tribulation of Satan, at the 2nd Advent of Christ.....when the 7th trumpet sounds.

The first resurrection is that one described in John 5:24-29,  in Rom 6:4-6 and Rom 8:10-11.  See also Eph 2:1,5,6;Col 2:12-13; 3:1; 1 John 3:14.  The people of the first resurrection are those who have been reborn; they have been resurrected from the spiritually dead.  And as John says in Rev 20:6, "Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power,"

Praise God.

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« Reply #6 on: Sun Feb 21, 2010 - 09:11:11 »

What people are those that are gathered? Those that were illuminated, translated, of the first resurrection....Those that don't take the mark of the beast. When are they gathered? After the tribulation of Satan, at the 2nd Advent of Christ.....when the 7th trumpet sounds.

The first resurrection is that one described in John 5:24-29,  in Rom 6:4-6 and Rom 8:10-11.  See also Eph 2:1,5,6;Col 2:12-13; 3:1; 1 John 3:14.  The people of the first resurrection are those who have been reborn; they have been resurrected from the spiritually dead.  And as John says in Rev 20:6, "Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power,"

Praise God.


 ::smile::  Yes....that is the first resurrection and it takes place before our physical death.  Great scripture choices Jimmy....thank you. 

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« Reply #7 on: Sun Feb 21, 2010 - 10:30:53 »
Salvation is three fold.
1. the saving of the spirit. We are spiritually dead and when Christ comes into us we are reborn spiritually.
2. The soul is saved, that is the part of a person that experiences the worlds through the sensory gifts of the five senses.
3. We will be saved physically at the resurrection of the dead.

I believe you are confusing the scriptures about these three.

(1.)  Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born anew.
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it will, and thou hearest the voice thereof, but knowest not whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

(2)  Mt 10:28 And be not afraid of them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and quick to discern the thoughts and intents of the heart.


(3) 1th 5:23 And the God of peace himself sanctify you wholly; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved entire, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.


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« Reply #8 on: Sun Feb 21, 2010 - 10:59:32 »
Salvation is three fold.
1. the saving of the spirit. We are spiritually dead and when Christ comes into us we are reborn spiritually.
2. The soul is saved, that is the part of a person that experiences the worlds through the sensory gifts of the five senses.
3. We will be saved physically at the resurrection of the dead.

I believe you are confusing the scriptures about these three.

(1.)  Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born anew.
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it will, and thou hearest the voice thereof, but knowest not whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

(2)  Mt 10:28 And be not afraid of them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and quick to discern the thoughts and intents of the heart.


(3) 1th 5:23 And the God of peace himself sanctify you wholly; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved entire, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.



To which "body" do those verses pertain?  He tells us that our flesh body is forever gone after our physical death.....

  • Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

    Ecclesiastes 12:6-8 Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.  Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.  Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity.

As that body is gone and our spirit returns to Him then what body must we preserve blameless?  God tells us through Paul....

  • 1 Corinthians 15:38-40 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased Him, and to every seed his own body.  All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.   There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

I submit that it is our celestial body we must preserve blameless until His coming.  And, our celestial body is part of......

  • Ephesians 5:30  For we are members of His body, of His flesh, and of His bones.


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« Reply #9 on: Sun Feb 21, 2010 - 11:29:48 »
1co 15:51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed,



Mr 5:39 And when he was entered in, he saith unto them, Why make ye a tumult, and weep? the child is not dead, but sleepeth.

Lu 8:52 And all were weeping, and bewailing her: but he said, Weep not; for she is not dead, but sleepeth.
Lu 8:53 And they laughed him to scorn, knowing that she was dead.

Joh 11:11 These things spake he: and after this he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus is fallen asleep; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
Joh 11:12 The disciples therefore said unto him, Lord, if he is fallen asleep, he will recover.
Joh 11:13 Now Jesus had spoken of his death: but they thought that he spake of taking rest in sleep.
Joh 11:14 Then Jesus therefore said unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

Joh 11:21 Martha therefore said unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
Joh 11:22 And even now I know that, whatsoever thou shalt ask of God, God will give thee.
Joh 11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
Joh 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Joh 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth on me, though he die, yet shall he live;
Joh 11:26 and whosoever liveth and believeth on me shall never die. Believest thou this?


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« Reply #10 on: Sun Feb 21, 2010 - 11:55:58 »
1co 15:51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed,



Mr 5:39 And when he was entered in, he saith unto them, Why make ye a tumult, and weep? the child is not dead, but sleepeth.

Lu 8:52 And all were weeping, and bewailing her: but he said, Weep not; for she is not dead, but sleepeth.
Lu 8:53 And they laughed him to scorn, knowing that she was dead.

Joh 11:11 These things spake he: and after this he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus is fallen asleep; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
Joh 11:12 The disciples therefore said unto him, Lord, if he is fallen asleep, he will recover.
Joh 11:13 Now Jesus had spoken of his death: but they thought that he spake of taking rest in sleep.
Joh 11:14 Then Jesus therefore said unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

Joh 11:21 Martha therefore said unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
Joh 11:22 And even now I know that, whatsoever thou shalt ask of God, God will give thee.
Joh 11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
Joh 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Joh 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth on me, though he die, yet shall he live;
Joh 11:26 and whosoever liveth and believeth on me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Lazarus was not resurrected; rather Jesus brought him back to life.  That life was the life of in body which eventually would die again.  But for us the resurrection is not just being brought back to life, it is a resurrection to a life that shall never die.  Consider Paul's description in 1 Corinthians, chapter 15.  You did not read it all.

40  There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another.
41  There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.
42  So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body;
43  it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power;
44  it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
45  So also it is written, "The first MAN,  Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
46  However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual.
47  The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven.
48  As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly.
49  And just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50  Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
51  Behold, I tell you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,


But that is the second resurrection.  The first is when the spirit is reborn.  Once spiritually dead due to sin, the one reborn is raised anew.

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Re: Catching Up, Translation, First Resurrection
« Reply #11 on: Sun Feb 21, 2010 - 11:57:06 »
1co 15:51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed,


All, whether spiritually alive or spiritually dead, physically alive or physically dead, will be changed into an incorruptible body, a body that will last throughout the millennium.  Those of the first resurrection are not only in an incorruptible body but they are also immortal. 


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Mr 5:39 And when he was entered in, he saith unto them, Why make ye a tumult, and weep? the child is not dead, but sleepeth.

Lu 8:52 And all were weeping, and bewailing her: but he said, Weep not; for she is not dead, but sleepeth.
Lu 8:53 And they laughed him to scorn, knowing that she was dead.

Joh 11:11 These things spake he: and after this he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus is fallen asleep; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
Joh 11:12 The disciples therefore said unto him, Lord, if he is fallen asleep, he will recover.
Joh 11:13 Now Jesus had spoken of his death: but they thought that he spake of taking rest in sleep.
Joh 11:14 Then Jesus therefore said unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

Joh 11:21 Martha therefore said unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
Joh 11:22 And even now I know that, whatsoever thou shalt ask of God, God will give thee.
Joh 11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
Joh 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Joh 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth on me, though he die, yet shall he live; [/color]
Joh 11:26 and whosoever liveth and believeth on me shall never die. Believest thou this?


As He stated....He is the resurrection.  Once we believe on Him...even though we physically die...we live spiritually.  That is the first resurrection and we must believe on Him to be of that resurrection so it must take place before our death. 

In regard to Lazarus and the girl...I was in a discussion about this yesterday.  I haven't studied it but believe that through those events Christ was teaching that those that died before His resurrection would be offered salvation.....

1 Peter 3:18-20 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

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« Reply #12 on: Sun Feb 21, 2010 - 19:09:34 »
Ro 8:20 For the creation was subjected to vanity, not of its own will, but by reason of him who subjected it, in hope
Ro 8:21 that the creation itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the liberty of the glory of the children of God.
Ro 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
Ro 8:23 And not only so, but ourselves also, who have the first-fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for [our] adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body.

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« Reply #13 on: Mon Feb 22, 2010 - 06:48:32 »
Ro 8:20 For the creation was subjected to vanity, not of its own will, but by reason of him who subjected it, in hope
Ro 8:21 that the creation itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the liberty of the glory of the children of God.
Ro 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
Ro 8:23 And not only so, but ourselves also, who have the first-fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for [our] adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body.


The redemption of our body pertains to our "celestial body."  After our physical death our "terrestrial body" returns to dust....as written.  Those of us filled with His Spirit groan within ourselves for within ourselves is our celestial body.  That body, our true body, steps out of flesh and we are redeemed.