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Re: Feminism: "the last day" approaching?
« Reply #35 on: Sun Jun 17, 2018 - 19:12:59 »
Let me ask you a simple question, "MeMyself". Do you believe in the "theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes", nay, and also the domestic and ecclesiastical equality of the sexes in FUNCTION (particularly in terms of roles of authority and jurisdiction) as well as in BEING?

I don't owe you an explanation, you are not an authority over me. I will say again that both sexes are of equal value to God.  THAT is what I believe. Just because you don't like my opinions on music in the church does not mean you had the right to drag my name to a thread I wasn't even participating in, so that you could badmouth me and slander me and try to give people a false impression of me.

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Re: Feminism: "the last day" approaching?
« Reply #36 on: Sun Jun 17, 2018 - 20:16:45 »
I don't owe you an explanation, you are not an authority over me. I will say again that both sexes are of equal value to God.  THAT is what I believe. Just because you don't like my opinions on music in the church does not mean you had the right to drag my name to a thread I wasn't even participating in, so that you could badmouth me and slander me and try to give people a false impression of me.

MeMyself,

This fellow is a high conflict individual.  Thrives on conflict.  The best way to deal with a person who thrives on conflict is to deprive them of conflict.  (I learned this the hard way). Ignore him, and soon the poster will return to the hole they crawled out of.


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Re: Feminism: "the last day" approaching?
« Reply #37 on: Sun Jun 17, 2018 - 20:23:53 »
MeMyself,

This fellow is a high conflict individual.  Thrives on conflict.  The best way to deal with a person who thrives on conflict is to deprive them of conflict.  (I learned this the hard way). Ignore him, and soon the poster will return to the hole they crawled out of.

Good advice. I'll do my best to follow through with ignoring...

Thank you!

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Re: Feminism: "the last day" approaching?
« Reply #38 on: Sun Jun 17, 2018 - 21:37:13 »
And for your information, I am STILL waiting for the replies of both 4WD and Glenn63.


Glenn63 hasn't logged onto this site in over 5 years, verbal warning here. Careful where you troll.

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Re: Feminism: "the last day" approaching?
« Reply #39 on: Mon Jun 18, 2018 - 00:42:53 »
"End Times" discussions typically involve Dispensationalist eschatology, and I'm not a Dispie, so I don't usually pay attention to them.  But I was curious to see what "Feminism" could possibly have to do with the topic.

I had to  rofl when I saw that someone found it necessary to raise a five-year-old zombie thread from Sheol, and even more so when I saw myself mentioned herein.   ::clappingoverhead::

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Re: Feminism: "the last day" approaching?
« Reply #40 on: Mon Jun 18, 2018 - 01:02:51 »
There is something you ought to know. Both "MeMyself" and "NorrinRadd" have PROVEN themselves to be feminists and leftists despite all their indignant DENIALS of the fact!

I won't speak for MeMyself... um... wait... I won't speak for the particular member whose Username is "MeMyself," but I will indeed speak for... um... me myself.

I don't choose the label, "feminist," because of the connotations in popular usage, e.g. "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle," "Down with the Patriarchy," etc.  But I do not deny, indignantly or otherwise, that I favor full equality of rights and opportunities for women as compared to men, which is the common dictionary definition of "feminist."

As for "leftist," in terms of socio-political views, I'm a conservatarian.  I have strong sympathies for libertarian views, which are generally "classical liberal" views (as opposed to "progressive" views).  So, compared to hard-line conservatives, I am *relatively* leftist.


Now, there is something YOU ought to know:  Digging up a five-year-old thread in order to cram it full of a discussion from an existing ACTIVE thread, especially when there are other active threads on the same topic, is an unhealthy sign.  Put some ice cubes in your shorts and chill.

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« Reply #41 on: Mon Jun 18, 2018 - 01:06:05 »
Let me ask you a simple question, "MeMyself". Do you believe in the "theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes", nay, and also the domestic and ecclesiastical equality of the sexes in FUNCTION (particularly in terms of roles of authority and jurisdiction) as well as in BEING?

Speaking for me, myself, but not necessarily for MeMyself -- YES, with the caveat that I do not believe in imposed equality of OUTCOME, only of OPPORTUNITY.

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« Reply #42 on: Tue Jun 19, 2018 - 12:29:43 »
I am a postmil, partial preterist and do not go into date setting or looking for specific signs for "the last day".  Yet, I know that history repeats itself and it is wise to keep ones eyes open and be vigilant to what is going on around us.  I view Matthew 24 as predicting the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem, but I see similarities that can be seen before the fall of people who have been blessed of God.  But, I see something more sinister in feminism. The New Living Translation shows something from the OT Hebrew that seldom comes out in our English versions:

“... And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you.”” (Ge 3:16b)

“... Sin is crouching at the door, eager to control you. But you must subdue it and be its master.”” (Ge 4:7b)

The Hebrew for "desire to control" in 3:16 and "eager to control" in 4:7 are the same.  We see right from the beginning, the desire of women is to rule over men, be in control.  In the homes, in the pulpits of our churches and in government.  But, God says men are to rule, not the women.  Yes, we can find exceptions to the rule, but that further confirms the truth of the rule itself.

When we find Jerusalem being judged by God later in the OT, we find this indictment:

“Childish leaders oppress my people, and women rule over them. O my people, your leaders mislead you; they send you down the wrong road.” (Isa 3:12)

The USA usually does not even rank in the top 10 of women's power in the modern world, yet look around us from Washington down to so many of our homes/marriages. In Scripture, when we see women in control, is it not because men have abdicated their roles?  Is this not a gauge of the depravity of mankind and how far we have sunk into rebellion against God?

Last, what did Paul indicate in Romans regarding women and gross sin?

“For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Ro 1:26-27 NRSV)

"...women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural..." Women seem to have begun anal and oral intercourse with men and who knows what acts with other women, then men followed after the women's perversity!  Eve first and then Adam followed her into sin.  Here women first, then men followed into perversity.

The Jamieson-Faussett-Brown Commentary of 1871 comments on this verse:   "— that sex whose priceless jewel and fairest ornament is modesty, and which, when that is once lost, not only becomes more shameless than the other sex, but lives henceforth only to drag the other sex down to its level."

Is the world approaching "the last day" or are we going to be blessed with a renewal of the faith of Jesus Christ?  I know earthquakes, rumors of wars, etc., have happened through the centuries, but the feminism we see today?  That I find is quite new in history.  Yet, same-sex marriage is quite new too!   Oh how sinful culture has twisted God's prescribed order.

I'm not posting to negate your entire post but to address those passages in Genesis.   Those refer to the curse which came upon mankind after their sin.    Christ has provided mankind with His victory over sin and death, that which we could never do for ourselves.   The world is still cursed and will be until Jesus reigns over His people on the New Earth.   Until then feminism is but one of the many manifestations of the curse.   

2Ti 3:1  But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty.
2Ti 3:2  For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3  heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good,
2Ti 3:4  treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
2Ti 3:5  having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

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Re: Feminism: "the last day" approaching?
« Reply #43 on: Tue Jun 19, 2018 - 14:23:17 »
Speaking for me, myself, but not necessarily for MeMyself -- YES, with the caveat that I do not believe in imposed equality of OUTCOME, only of OPPORTUNITY.
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Imposed equality of OUTCOME is perhaps one of the more insidious objectives of the Left.  It is at the heart of "Social Justice" which in most cases is not justice at all and more often than not is nonjustice.  It is Marxist at its core. It is the sacrosanct doctrine of Leftists and, unfortunately, the modern Democrat Party.  It is literally tearing the country apart.

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« Reply #44 on: Tue Jun 19, 2018 - 15:53:14 »
If you wrote a dictionary, and defined "Social Justice" as "The opposite of 'actual' justice," that would be correct in about 85% of cases.

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« Reply #45 on: Tue Jun 19, 2018 - 18:30:26 »
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Imposed equality of OUTCOME is perhaps one of the more insidious objectives of the Left.  It is at the heart of "Social Justice" which in most cases is not justice at all and more often than not is nonjustice.  It is Marxist at its core. It is the sacrosanct doctrine of Leftists and, unfortunately, the modern Democrat Party.  It is literally tearing the country apart.

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Re: Feminism: "the last day" approaching?
« Reply #46 on: Wed Jun 20, 2018 - 08:44:31 »
Paul was speaking about men lying with men and women with women as in sexual passions and acts. He wasnt speaking about women who are in positions of power, many of whom are doing a very good job. As it happens the best Prime minister we ever had here in the UK was female(in my opinion), and our Queen has done a brilliant job and is highly respected worldwide, so I cant go along with what you say.
The verses that you quote from Genesis is about womens desire being FOR her husband, and any verses from that time obviously have applied since the fall, and not just recently. God saw fit to use women in positions of power in the Jewish nation, so I cant see why we cant as well.

There are of course some extreme feminists who have taken things too far, and many of them I suspect are those who have been deeply hurt by men and have a lot of hate and bitterness in them, and so need prayer and healing.

I agree with your post as a general concept.

However, it should be admitted that the current misangric attitude of women and their political organizations is aggressive beyond reason.   Coupled with the popularity of the lesbian life style, the attitude that men are something lower than biological garbage has been adopted widely.  Some universities in the US have courses that require young male students to apologize for being male as well as for being white.

I have elsewhere quoted numerous Biblical passages that demonstrate women are supported by God as leaders.    I can also join the chorus of those who quote scripture in stating the gay life style is forbidden.   It can be justly said that the feminazi movement is a sign of the disintegration of western civilization if not the parousia.

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