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stucky,I believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation...hence the "shortening of days" for the elect. Bond
Quote from: BondServant on December 02, 2009, 06:50:22 PMstucky,I believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation...hence the "shortening of days" for the elect. Bond AHA!!! Good. Then I say it again, the Holy Spirit will be absent from the Church but will still perform the duties He did prior to Pentecost. He will not restrain but He will still be convicting people of their sins and providing supernatural power and ability for salvation and good works. He just won’t be sealed within believers as a guarantee of their redemption.
Quote from: Stucky on December 02, 2009, 06:57:39 PMQuote from: BondServant on December 02, 2009, 06:50:22 PMstucky,I believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation...hence the "shortening of days" for the elect. Bond AHA!!! Good. Then I say it again, the Holy Spirit will be absent from the Church but will still perform the duties He did prior to Pentecost. He will not restrain but He will still be convicting people of their sins and providing supernatural power and ability for salvation and good works. He just won’t be sealed within believers as a guarantee of their redemption. What makes you think the Holy Spirit is restricted to one place or the other? In the New Jerusalem He will be present for eternity. We must have some need of Him.
Quote from: larry2 on December 02, 2009, 07:03:02 PMQuote from: Stucky on December 02, 2009, 06:57:39 PMQuote from: BondServant on December 02, 2009, 06:50:22 PMstucky,I believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation...hence the "shortening of days" for the elect. Bond AHA!!! Good. Then I say it again, the Holy Spirit will be absent from the Church but will still perform the duties He did prior to Pentecost. He will not restrain but He will still be convicting people of their sins and providing supernatural power and ability for salvation and good works. He just won’t be sealed within believers as a guarantee of their redemption. What makes you think the Holy Spirit is restricted to one place or the other? In the New Jerusalem He will be present for eternity. We must have some need of Him. Larry, Larry, Larry, there you go putting words in my mouth again. Where did I say the Holy Spirit was restricted to one place or another? I believe that He is lifted from His duties ministering to the Church after the rapture but still has duties on Earth. Do none of you ever read my posts? Go back to my post of 6:27pm today.
Quote from: Stucky on December 02, 2009, 07:28:20 PMQuote from: larry2 on December 02, 2009, 07:03:02 PMQuote from: Stucky on December 02, 2009, 06:57:39 PMQuote from: BondServant on December 02, 2009, 06:50:22 PMstucky,I believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation...hence the "shortening of days" for the elect. Bond AHA!!! Good. Then I say it again, the Holy Spirit will be absent from the Church but will still perform the duties He did prior to Pentecost. He will not restrain but He will still be convicting people of their sins and providing supernatural power and ability for salvation and good works. He just won’t be sealed within believers as a guarantee of their redemption. What makes you think the Holy Spirit is restricted to one place or the other? In the New Jerusalem He will be present for eternity. We must have some need of Him. Larry, Larry, Larry, there you go putting words in my mouth again. Where did I say the Holy Spirit was restricted to one place or another? I believe that He is lifted from His duties ministering to the Church after the rapture but still has duties on Earth. Do none of you ever read my posts? Go back to my post of 6:27pm today.That's what I thought you said. What makes you think we will have no need of the guidance from the Holy Spirit in heaven if we're going to have Him throughout eternity?