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Re: First Rapture is According to Readiness
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2009, 06:50:22 PM »
stucky,

I believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation...hence the "shortening of days" for the elect.

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Re: First Rapture is According to Readiness
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Re: First Rapture is According to Readiness
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2009, 06:57:39 PM »
stucky,

I believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation...hence the "shortening of days" for the elect.

 Bond

AHA!!!  Good.  Then I say it again, the Holy Spirit will be absent from the Church but will still perform the duties He did prior to Pentecost.  He will not restrain but He will  still be convicting people of their sins and providing supernatural power and ability for salvation and good works.  He just won’t be sealed within believers as a guarantee of their redemption.

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« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2009, 06:57:39 PM »

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Re: First Rapture is According to Readiness
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2009, 07:03:02 PM »
stucky,

I believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation...hence the "shortening of days" for the elect.

 Bond

AHA!!!  Good.  Then I say it again, the Holy Spirit will be absent from the Church but will still perform the duties He did prior to Pentecost.  He will not restrain but He will  still be convicting people of their sins and providing supernatural power and ability for salvation and good works.  He just won’t be sealed within believers as a guarantee of their redemption.


What makes you think the Holy Spirit is restricted to one place or the other? In the New Jerusalem He will be present for eternity. We must have some need of Him.  ::smile::

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Re: First Rapture is According to Readiness
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2009, 07:28:20 PM »
stucky,

I believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation...hence the "shortening of days" for the elect.

 Bond

AHA!!!  Good.  Then I say it again, the Holy Spirit will be absent from the Church but will still perform the duties He did prior to Pentecost.  He will not restrain but He will  still be convicting people of their sins and providing supernatural power and ability for salvation and good works.  He just won’t be sealed within believers as a guarantee of their redemption.


What makes you think the Holy Spirit is restricted to one place or the other? In the New Jerusalem He will be present for eternity. We must have some need of Him.  ::smile::

Larry, Larry, Larry, there you go putting words in my mouth again.  Where did I say the Holy Spirit was restricted to one place or another?  I believe that He is lifted from His duties ministering to the Church after the rapture but still has duties on Earth.  Do none of you ever read my posts?  Go back to my post of 6:27pm today.

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Re: First Rapture is According to Readiness
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2009, 07:54:43 PM »
stucky,

I believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation...hence the "shortening of days" for the elect.

 Bond

AHA!!!  Good.  Then I say it again, the Holy Spirit will be absent from the Church but will still perform the duties He did prior to Pentecost.  He will not restrain but He will  still be convicting people of their sins and providing supernatural power and ability for salvation and good works.  He just won’t be sealed within believers as a guarantee of their redemption.


What makes you think the Holy Spirit is restricted to one place or the other? In the New Jerusalem He will be present for eternity. We must have some need of Him.  ::smile::

Larry, Larry, Larry, there you go putting words in my mouth again.  Where did I say the Holy Spirit was restricted to one place or another?  I believe that He is lifted from His duties ministering to the Church after the rapture but still has duties on Earth.   Do none of you ever read my posts?  Go back to my post of 6:27pm today.

That's what I thought you said. What makes you think we will have no need of the guidance from the Holy Spirit in heaven if we're going to have Him throughout eternity?

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Re: First Rapture is According to Readiness
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Re: First Rapture is According to Readiness
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2009, 08:08:17 PM »
stucky,

I believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation...hence the "shortening of days" for the elect.

 Bond

AHA!!!  Good.  Then I say it again, the Holy Spirit will be absent from the Church but will still perform the duties He did prior to Pentecost.  He will not restrain but He will  still be convicting people of their sins and providing supernatural power and ability for salvation and good works.  He just won’t be sealed within believers as a guarantee of their redemption.


What makes you think the Holy Spirit is restricted to one place or the other? In the New Jerusalem He will be present for eternity. We must have some need of Him.  ::smile::

Larry, Larry, Larry, there you go putting words in my mouth again.  Where did I say the Holy Spirit was restricted to one place or another?  I believe that He is lifted from His duties ministering to the Church after the rapture but still has duties on Earth.   Do none of you ever read my posts?  Go back to my post of 6:27pm today.

That's what I thought you said. What makes you think we will have no need of the guidance from the Holy Spirit in heaven if we're going to have Him throughout eternity?

One more time:  Hellooooo.  I did not say that.  I am talking about the emphasis of his mission.  The Holy Spirit's main mission is to bring people to Jesus.  He is God, just as Jesus is God.  He is not limited to anywhere or anything.  But He has a main mission.....I shall repost part of my earlier post.  Please read it carefully:

After the Church leaves, the Holy Spirit will be released from His Church Age Ministry.  With our resurrection bodies we’ll no longer have a sin nature with its accompanying desire to sin, so we won’t have need of the Holy Spirit’s counsel and conviction.  All of the ways and workings of our Creator will be clear to us so we won’t have need of supernatural insight to help us understand. (1 Cor. 13:12)  Also the promise of our inheritance will have been fulfilled so we’ll no longer have need of a guarantee that God will provide it.

At that point the Holy Spirit will be free to assume something like His Old Testament ministry on Earth, still convicting people of their sins and providing supernatural power and ability for salvation and good works.  He just won’t be sealed within believers as a guarantee of their redemption.  Eternal Security is a blessing exclusive to the Church.