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Providing this for information only and not as an accusation.

Let the reader decide.

“I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.” John 5:43 (KJB)

FROM LIFE SITE NEWS: Former papal nuncio Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò has called the dropping of Pope Francis’ essential title “Vicar of Christ” from the 2020 Pontifical Yearbook an act that appears to “officially alter the Papacy,” such that the Pope “no longer recognizes himself as guardian.”

Archbishop Viganò said it’s as if Pope Francis now views himself as becoming “master of the Church, free to demolish it from within without having to answer to anyone. In short, a tyrant,” he said.

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/vatican-watchers-are-stunned-as-pope-francis-drops-title-vicar-of-christ-jorge-mario-bergoglio-his-own-name/

In addition, from the above link ....

IN HIS OWN NAME: THE UNITED NATIONS PROPHECY BOMB POPE FRANCIS DROPPED THAT NOBODY CAUGHT

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/the-united-nations-prophecy-bomb-pope-francis-dropped-that-nobody-caught/

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We don't have to worry about the pope being the coming Antichrist.

That since he is not a Jew of the tribe of Judah.

The Antichrist is to become a king in Jerusalem over orthodox Jews. And their requirement is that he be a Jew of the house of David in order to be their king, and that especially involving the new temple the Jews are going to build for the end of this world.

Hippolytus (170-235 A.D.):

"Now, as our Lord Jesus Christ, who is also God, was prophesied of under the figure of a lion, on account of His royalty and glory, in the same way have the Scriptures also aforetime spoken of Antichrist as a lion, on account of his tyranny and violence. For the deceiver seeks to liken himself in all things to the Son of God. Christ is a lion, so Antichrist is also a lion; Christ is a king,John 18:37 so Antichrist is also a king. The Saviour was manifested as a lamb; John 1:29 so he too, in like manner, will appear as a lamb, though within he is a wolf. The Saviour came into the World in the circumcision, and he will come in the same manner. The Lord sent apostles among all the nations, and he in like manner will send false apostles. The Saviour gathered together the sheep that were scattered abroad, and he in like manner will bring together a people that is scattered abroad. The Lord gave a seal to those who believed on Him, and he will give one like manner. The Saviour appeared in the form of man, and he too will come in the form of a man. The Saviour raised up and showed His holy flesh like a temple, John 2:19 and he will raise a temple of stone in Jerusalem." (http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0516.htm)


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We don't have to worry about the pope being the coming Antichrist.

That since he is not a Jew of the tribe of Judah.

The Antichrist is to become a king in Jerusalem over orthodox Jews. And their requirement is that he be a Jew of the house of David in order to be their king, and that especially involving the new temple the Jews are going to build for the end of this world.

Hippolytus (170-235 A.D.):

"Now, as our Lord Jesus Christ, who is also God, was prophesied of under the figure of a lion, on account of His royalty and glory, in the same way have the Scriptures also aforetime spoken of Antichrist as a lion, on account of his tyranny and violence. For the deceiver seeks to liken himself in all things to the Son of God. Christ is a lion, so Antichrist is also a lion; Christ is a king,John 18:37 so Antichrist is also a king. The Saviour was manifested as a lamb; John 1:29 so he too, in like manner, will appear as a lamb, though within he is a wolf. The Saviour came into the World in the circumcision, and he will come in the same manner. The Lord sent apostles among all the nations, and he in like manner will send false apostles. The Saviour gathered together the sheep that were scattered abroad, and he in like manner will bring together a people that is scattered abroad. The Lord gave a seal to those who believed on Him, and he will give one like manner. The Saviour appeared in the form of man, and he too will come in the form of a man. The Saviour raised up and showed His holy flesh like a temple, John 2:19 and he will raise a temple of stone in Jerusalem." (http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0516.htm)


Where in the word of God, the Holy Bible, does it say the coming man of sin (the false messiah/the antichrist) he must be a Jew? Also scripture is not talking about a literal temple being built but the temple of the body. It means that when the antichrist is revealed, he will be in the minds of men and women around the world be believed to be the messiah, to be God. And not only that I don't even think the self proclaiming Jews of the modern state of Israel are actual blood descendants. None of my research gives me any confidence they are. I will make a new post in this subforum about the "third temple" prophecy soon, please check it out.

Edit: Though I do agree with you that the Pope is not the antichrist. Scripture tells us the man of sin will have a "coming". The world will know when he aims revealed (a revealing).
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Where in the word of God, the Holy Bible, does it say the coming man of sin (the false messiah/the antichrist) he must be a Jew?

In Matthew 24:23-26 according to Jesus. The KJV phrase "false Christs" is the Greek word pseudochristos, made up of 2 Greek words, pseudo meaning false, and christos meaning The Christ. Dr. James Strong in his Strong's Exhaustive Concordance translated pseudochristos as 'a spurious Messiah' (Strong's no. 5580).  That is about a false one who tries to exalt himself in place of The Messiah. And the Old Testament prophets foretold of Messiah (Isaiah 11; Deut.18:18; Psalms 72; Micah 5:2; Psalms 2; Jeremiah 23:5-6; etc.). Messiah, i.e., Jesus Christ, is the literal Son of David, His lineage having come from David's son Nathan (via Mary in Luke 3).

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Also scripture is not talking about a literal temple being built but the temple of the body. It means that when the antichrist is revealed, he will be in the minds of men and women around the world be believed to be the messiah, to be God.

Sorry, but you've been misled. A stone temple in Jerusalem is exactly what Apostle Paul was pointing to in 2 Thess.2:4 with the "man of sin" coming there to sit in it and exalt himself in place of God. The main reason that is so is because a standing Jewish temple is required to fulfill the idol "abomination of desolation" prophecy that Jesus quoted from the Book of Daniel (see Daniel 11:31). Our LORD was good enough to give us a historical blueprint of what that "abomination of desolation" is with Antiochus Epiphanes IV who in 165 B.C. spiritually desolated inside the 2nd temple with an idol to Zeus, demanding all to bow to it.

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And not only that I don't even think the self proclaiming Jews of the modern state of Israel are actual blood descendants. None of my research gives me any confidence they are. I will make a new post in this subforum about the "third temple" prophecy soon, please check it out.

I have no need to read your theory on that, because God's Word has already told us how to interpret those things.

And yes there are still literal bloodline Israelites of the house of Judah dwelling in the state of Israel today. In 1 Kings 11 God promised He would always leave one tribe in Jerusalem for David's and Jerusalem's sake, and He has done that throughout the centuries. There are many Jewish converts there too, but there are also bloodline descendants of Judah, Benjamin, Levi, and some small elements of the northern tribes, as was written about those who made up the southern kingdom of the "house of Judah" in God's Word, and regarding a small remnant of them that returned to Jerusalem from the Babylon captivity.

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Edit: Though I do agree with you that the Pope is not the antichrist. Scripture tells us the man of sin will have a "coming". The world will know when he aims revealed (a revealing).

The 2 Thess.2 idea of his being revealed works differently between those in Christ and the deceived. For those in Christ, we are to know that false one will NOT be The True Christ. Thus Antichrist's arrival signals his being 'revealed' to us. But to the deceived who will believe Antichrist truly is God having come, he won't be 'revealed' to them until our Lord Jesus returns, and then they will recognize they have worshiped a fake in His place, and will then wish for the hills and mountains to fall upon them due to their shame. All this follows the warning parables The LORD gave through His prophets and by our Lord Jesus via witness of His Apostles.


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