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Title: Image of the beast
Post by: idono on Tue Jan 10, 2017 - 20:26:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J593vfn39AY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J593vfn39AY)
Humanlike robot Jia Jia draws attention at World Robot Conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1voN94lMpqc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1voN94lMpqc)
China's realistic robot Jia Jia can chat with real humans

Human like robot – Jia Jia. It has facial expressions, can wink her eyes, and can speak.

It makes me related it to Revelation 13:15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

I think the image of the beast could be something similar to this human like robot.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: LordyLordy on Wed Jan 11, 2017 - 04:51:14
The Beast is the information that was used to teach man how to build false gods with his human hands which is very necessary to reveal how we're created. There have been billions and billions of false gods built since the flood exposed the night sky for the first time. The Beast had some men look up at the white dots in the night sky and use imaginary lines to connect them into the first shapes for building plans such as squares, rectangles, triangles that couldn't be found on earth. Once man begin molding mud into these shapes that could be used as bricks or blocks to build their first building with human hands, their pride began to swell.

With each false god built, the Beast was able to get humans to refine their building techniques until the earth was filled with false gods such as the universities and the scientific discoveries that led to the building of computers and AI and Voice technology. This was needed to learn who we are.
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: Amo on Sat Jan 14, 2017 - 00:36:25
I think the first two posts are good examples of why these end time threads don't get a lot of attention.
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: Faithbuilders on Sat Jan 14, 2017 - 11:58:29
I have always felt that the beast may be a super computer - as you can't get a job, or buy food without the number linked to the beast. So you go to the store, or apply for a job, they scan you hand (or head) to see if your linked up.... possibly.
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: idono on Wed Jan 18, 2017 - 21:19:47
Chinese Bible translated this word “image” into “像”, “像” could be meant “statue” in Chinese. That is why my first impression when I read the news about the human like robot related to this scripture.
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: dpr on Fri Feb 10, 2017 - 09:08:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J593vfn39AY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J593vfn39AY)
Humanlike robot Jia Jia draws attention at World Robot Conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1voN94lMpqc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1voN94lMpqc)
China's realistic robot Jia Jia can chat with real humans

Human like robot – Jia Jia. It has facial expressions, can wink her eyes, and can speak.

It makes me related it to Revelation 13:15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

I think the image of the beast could be something similar to this human like robot.

What do you think?

The Biblical pattern for the Revelation image of the beast comes from the Book of Daniel and the king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar.

Nebuchadnezzar's false prophets, in order to trap Daniel and his fellows whom they knew worshipped The God of Israel, pumped Neb up to make a golden image of himself to be bowed in worship to at the sound of the psalter. Daniel and his fellows refused. But Neb, because he had already made the decree of death to anyone who refused, had to throw Daniel in the lion's den, and Daniel's fellows into the hot fiery furnace heated seven times hotter than necessary.

The trib is going to involve a time of world peace with a pseudo-Christ (Antichrist) in Jerusalem that will demand the whole world to bow to him in place of God. Scripture is pointing to the image of the beast being an idol image of himself, like with Neb in the days of Daniel. The idea of the "beast" in Revelation 13 involves both a kingdom beast, and a beast person (Antichrist) called "the another beast" in Rev.13:11. And that's really the beast which that image will be patterned after, using the Daniel example.

Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: idono on Tue Apr 04, 2017 - 06:37:54
Cyborgs at work: employees getting implanted with microchips

https://www.apnews.com/4fdcd5970f4f4871961b69eeff5a6585 (https://www.apnews.com/4fdcd5970f4f4871961b69eeff5a6585)


Source: Associated Press (AP)
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: idono on Fri Apr 21, 2017 - 08:48:37
Tesla Inc founder and Chief Executive Elon Musk on mission to link human brains with computers in four years. He said his latest company Neuralink Corp is working to link the human brain with a machine interface by creating micron-sized devices. The technology could take about eight to 10 years to become usable by people with no disability.

Is this the beast's mark on the forehead?

Elon Musk on mission to link human brains with computers in four years: Report
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-musk-neuralink-idUSKBN17N0CU?rpc=401 (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-musk-neuralink-idUSKBN17N0CU?rpc=401)

Source: Reuters
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: Star of David on Sat Apr 22, 2017 - 00:46:46
I think the first two posts are good examples of why these end time threads don't get a lot of attention.

I have to say, Amo, I got a very good laugh from reading your excellent insight here.
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: idono on Mon Jul 24, 2017 - 21:23:35
A Wisconsin company is to become the first in the US to microchip employees. Eventually, they hope it will replace everything you might have in your wallet - from your key fob to your credit card and ID. They see as one day being simply another payment and identification method - only instead of a credit card or phone, there would be a microchip between your thumb and finger.

Wisconsin company Three Square Market to microchip employees

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40710051 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40710051)

Source: BBC
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: Rainbow on Tue Jul 25, 2017 - 20:39:58
Idono,

The definition of image is:
an image, figure, likeness

used of the moral likeness of renewed men to God

one in whom the likeness of any one is seen

An example in English is when we say something like, You are the spitting image of your father.

So when Rev. 13 talks about the second beast is built in the image of the first, it means they are just alike.

Rev. 17:8 that describes the beast that was, and is not, and yet is, it's talking about past present and future beast kingdoms. In Rev. 17:10 +11 it is saying there are 8 different beast kingdoms that began way back in Egypt,  and continues in various incarnations to the last days.  The 8th is of the seven and goes into perdition.

I.E.
Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia,  Greece, Rome, Islam, Islam revived from a head wound.

The first five have "fallen" by the time John wrote Revelation,
Rome "is" at the time of Revelation's writing,
Islam was "not yet", and "yet is" now.

That makes 8.  The last is of the 7, all kingdoms out of the Middle East, all similar.
We know this because of Neb's dream about the statue that Daniel interpreted.

So when you read Rev. 13, those two beasts are the final 2 which are like the bear, the lion, and the leopard kingdoms, but the last beast acts and does exactly like the one before him who had a deadly head wound.  They are the exact image of each other, Islam then, and Islam now, and it stands where it ought not, on the temple mount, claiming to be God until the end is poured out. Islam now speaks via the Koran, and Islam now causes people to worship the image of the beast or be killed.

Dig?

Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: idono on Tue Jul 25, 2017 - 21:20:00
Thanks for your reply.
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: notreligus on Tue Jul 25, 2017 - 22:04:14
You posters here may not be old enough to recall when Muslims or Islam were not part of this list and were not even considered as fitting into end-times scenarios (with the exception of a few prophecy experts who predicted that the antichrist would come from Syria).   Russia as the leading candidate for producing mayhem and the attack against Israel, with Brussels as the central ruling city (capital of the revived Roman Empire) with the "super computer" located there which would be used to control worldwide commerce, was what was talked about most often.   There's no telling how many times Jack Van Impe has had to re-write his books and newsletter predictions. 

I'm really not poking fun at anyone as I used to be caught up in trying to pin the tail on the latest antichrist myself.   With all of the world's uncertainty and scary world leaders there's no lack of potential candidates.   Whoever and whatever fits into the right scenario is going to be short-lived.   
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: idono on Wed Jul 26, 2017 - 04:41:47
Wisconsin company offers employees microchip implants

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tech-implants-idUSKBN1AA2UZ (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tech-implants-idUSKBN1AA2UZ)

Source: Reuters
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: Rainbow on Wed Jul 26, 2017 - 09:16:22
Hi notreligious,

I remember when they used to say that the antichrist must be charismatic because how else could he take over the whole world?
I contend "he/it" is not charismatic at all.  In fact, I would say that you can't get much more barbaric than Islamic behavior.  However, the way the left fawns over anything Islamic is truly remarkable.

The answer to how such brut behavior can take over the whole world is -- it won't.  It will try, but it will fail miserably, God says so.

Rev. 17:12 And the ten horns which you saw are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

one hour?  lol

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of Lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Should be interesting to see...if we still have TV that is.

Choose wisely, grasshopper.

ps  It says that after they lose they go fight the woman that talked them into all this in the first place, the one riding their backs.  My guess is they'll run to Mecca and burn it down.  Wouldn't you?
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: idono on Mon Aug 07, 2017 - 20:52:33
British inventor Steven Northam has microchip implanted

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4756834/British-inventor-Steven-Northam-microchip-implanted.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4756834/British-inventor-Steven-Northam-microchip-implanted.html)

Source: Daily Mail Online
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: Star of David on Mon Aug 07, 2017 - 22:16:36
You posters here may not be old enough to recall when Muslims or Islam were not part of this list and were not even considered as fitting into end-times scenarios (with the exception of a few prophecy experts who predicted that the antichrist would come from Syria).   Russia as the leading candidate for producing mayhem and the attack against Israel, with Brussels as the central ruling city (capital of the revived Roman Empire) with the "super computer" located there which would be used to control worldwide commerce, was what was talked about most often.   There's no telling how many times Jack Van Impe has had to re-write his books and newsletter predictions. 

I'm really not poking fun at anyone as I used to be caught up in trying to pin the tail on the latest antichrist myself.   With all of the world's uncertainty and scary world leaders there's no lack of potential candidates.   Whoever and whatever fits into the right scenario is going to be short-lived.

I can tell you why the recognized End Times prophecy experts are constantly wrong in their efforts to pin the tail on the Antichrist, notreligus. It is because there will NEVER be this evil Antichrist that Chapter 13 of the Book of Revelation APPEARS to be describing.

I concluded this, for once and for all, by the end of 1992.

Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: idono on Mon Nov 06, 2017 - 10:33:05
Saudi Arabia Is First Country to Give Citizenship to Robot
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/saudi-arabia-first-nation-to-grant-citizenship-to-robot/4098338.html (https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/saudi-arabia-first-nation-to-grant-citizenship-to-robot/4098338.html)
Source: Voice of America News

Revelation 13:15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: idono on Mon Nov 06, 2017 - 10:34:10
Robot Sophia speaks at Saudi Arabia's Future Investment Initiative

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMrX08PxUNY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMrX08PxUNY&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: idono on Wed May 16, 2018 - 01:35:16
Microchips get under the skin of technophile Swedes
https://www.afp.com/en/news/2265/microchips-get-under-skin-technophile-swedes-doc-14m1js1 (https://www.afp.com/en/news/2265/microchips-get-under-skin-technophile-swedes-doc-14m1js1)

Source: AFP
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: fish153 on Wed May 16, 2018 - 13:29:25
A world leader steps forward to a podium and behind him on a giant television screen is his image.  This "image" is also sent via satellite all over the world so that many
people see it simultaneously.  Everything the leader does the image does also.
Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: Kenneth Sublett on Fri May 25, 2018 - 12:00:52
Jesus said that truth is hidden in parables from the foundation or CASTING DOWN of the World.  Jesus said this was to hide the TRUTH from those who intend to MARKET any of God's Words.

The BEAST is hidden in PLAIN SIGHT because God understood that this is the way to hide from those using their own imagination.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,
         that thou hast HID these things from the WISE and PRUDENT,
         and hast REVEALED them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

WHO ARE THE WISE AND PRUDENT

(http://www.piney.com/Sophist.Sophia.Wise.gif)

PART ONE DEFINING BEAST.

(http://www.piney.com/The.Mark.of.The.Beast.A.gif)


Title: Re: Image of the beast
Post by: lea on Sun May 27, 2018 - 12:43:13
from idono's post-
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Revelation 13:15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

Caesar.
 Satan gave power to the beasts in Rev.13. So, the image of Caesar on the coins to buy & sell.
And the thoughts are- they who worshiped Caesar. Most likely Vespasian and Titus (that little horn) who deluded the Jews with acts of miracles. (actually, sorcery).