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leviticus and ezekiel prophecy fulfilled - in 1948
« on: Mon Nov 23, 2009 - 21:56:47 »

leviticus - speaking of the 7 x 390 years of punishment


26:18 `And if unto these ye hearken not to Me, -- then I have added to chastise you SEVEN times for your sins;

26:21 `And if ye walk with Me `in' opposition, and are not willing to hearken to Me, then I have added to you a plague SEVEN times, according to your sins,


26:24 then I have walked -- I also -- with you in opposition, and have smitten you, even I, SEVEN times for your sins;

26:28 then I have walked with you in the fury of opposition, and have chastised you, even I, SEVEN times for your sins.


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4:5 And I -- I have laid on thee the years of their iniquity, the number of days, three hundred and ninety days; and thou hast borne the iniquity of the house of Israel.

4:6 And thou hast completed these, and hast lain on thy right side, a second time, and hast borne the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days -- A DAY FOR A YEAR -- a day for a year I have appointed to thee.

in 745 BC was the beginning of this chastisement of the house of israel.
the first invasion of israel and captivity started in this year with the tribes of reuben, gad and half of manasseh, by the assryians
by 722 BC the whole house was captive

745BC to 1948 = 2,693 years in our calender
390x7 = 2,730 JEWISH prophetic years of 360 days

2,730x360 = 982,800 days
982,800/365 days = 2,692.6 years (the difference being a matter of months)

exactly as prophesied israels chastisement ended and became a sovereign nation again in 1948

if you want to split hairs and say it should be 365.24 days, the average is actually 365.03 days, if you include the leap years from 1582, and the previous 365 days before that time

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Re: leviticus and ezekiel prophecy fulfilled - in 1948
« Reply #1 on: Tue Nov 24, 2009 - 23:43:32 »
Lev  26:21 NIV
If you remain hostile toward me and refuse to listen to me, I will multiply your afflictions seven times over, as you sins deserve.

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If in spite of these things you do not accept my correction but continue to be hostile toward me, I myself will be hostile toward you and will afflict you for your sins seven times over.

The 7 times is God’s complete and thorough punishment of his people for their sins, he is not extending the length of their punishment by 7 years. 

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390x7 = 2,730 JEWISH prophetic years of 360 days

Eze 4:4-5 does not tell us to multiply 390 years by 7. 1 day = 1 year.

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745 BC was the beginning of this chastisement of the house of israel.
the first invasion of israel and captivity started in this year with the tribes of reuben, gad and half of manasseh, by the assryians
by 722 BC the whole house was captive

Chastisement for the house of Israel begins at the end of 390 Hebrew years (5:2-4).

We have to convert the 390 Hebrew years to our calendar.

390 divided by 365.4 = 345 years of our calendar.

There has to be and event that marks the beginning of the 345 years for the house of Israel and another event that ends it. Have any ideas?

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Eze. 4:6 And thou hast completed these, and hast lain on thy right side, a second time, and hast borne the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days -- A DAY FOR A YEAR -- a day for a year I have appointed to thee/quote]

This appears to be a separate prophecy on Judah that is fulfilled at a different time.


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Re: leviticus and ezekiel prophecy fulfilled - in 1948
« Reply #2 on: Wed Nov 25, 2009 - 22:27:29 »

leviticus - speaking of the 7 x 390 years of punishment

26:18 `And if unto these ye hearken not to Me, -- then I have added to chastise you SEVEN times for your sins;

26:21 `And if ye walk with Me `in' opposition, and are not willing to hearken to Me, then I have added to you a plague SEVEN times, according to your sins,


26:24 then I have walked -- I also -- with you in opposition, and have smitten you, even I, SEVEN times for your sins;

26:28 then I have walked with you in the fury of opposition, and have chastised you, even I, SEVEN times for your sins.


ezekiel

4:5 And I -- I have laid on thee [Ezekiel] the years of their iniquity, the number of days, three hundred and ninety days; and thou hast borne the iniquity of the house of Israel.

God is giving Israel a warning to repent or he would do these things if they continued on in their sinful ways. He was reminding them of their centuries of evil doing by having the prophet lay on his side for 390 days (One day for each year.)

4:6 And thou hast completed these, and hast lain on thy right side, a second time, and hast borne the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days -- A DAY FOR A YEAR -- a day for a year I have appointed to thee.

He has the prophet lay on his side for another 40 days (one day for each year). What this means is that God is giving Israel 40 years to repent. After that he will do the things to them that he described in the above 7's. So they did not repent and they were given into the hands of their enemies and were led into captivity in Babylon for 70 years.

It is interesting that the Temple was destroyed in the siege and on the selfsame day the Temple of herod was also destroyed by the Romans. God again gave them 40 years to repent once again. Crucifixion to 70AD is 40 years. In both cases the Spirit of God left the Temple and hovered over the Mount of Olives - where Jesus was crucified.

It may make for an exciting and sensational hobby to bring all Bible prophesy into our day, but that is not what it is saying.

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« Reply #3 on: Thu Nov 26, 2009 - 07:25:25 »

Lev  26:21 NIV
If you remain hostile toward me and refuse to listen to me, I will multiply your afflictions seven times over, as you sins deserve.


hmm i dunno, this seems to say something different to the youngs literal (this may even have a dual meaning like some other prophecies)
i usually read the youngs because of it's accuracy to the original texts
 
Eze 4:4-5 does not tell us to multiply 390 years by 7. 1 day = 1 year.


true, but earlier in lev, it says 7 times if they keep rebelling (maybe i'm getting the context wrong here i don't know)

390 divided by 365.4 = 345 years of our calendar.

in the 8th century BC and previously, a 360 day calender was used, and it is used also in revelation regarding prophecy
it was around this time the calender changed to 365 days, and a hebrew calender averages just under 365 because of the intercalary month 7 times per 19 years
i would think it's reasonable that a 360 day calender would be used for prophecy
there is possible evidence in the bible that 360 day orbit of the earth around the sun used to be a reality, and was changed by god

Lo, I am bringing back the shadow of the degrees that it hath gone down on the degrees of Ahaz, by the sun, backward ten degrees:' and the sun turneth back ten degrees in the degrees that it had gone down.(isaiah 38:8)

most sundials then had 180 degrees for the daylight and 10 degrees is equivalent to 40 minutes
if u times 180x40 minutes you get 5 days!!! which would change the orbit to 365 days
on top of all this there are even secular scientists who are claiming that the orbit used to possibly be 360 days, which i find hard to ignore, although most mainsteam scientists think it's preposterous, maybe because of whats contained in the bible which most of them would try to discredit anyway the same way historians have with the book of daniel
this event recorded by isaiah was remarkably close to the time when the calenders changed from 360 to 365 days













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Re: leviticus and ezekiel prophecy fulfilled - in 1948
« Reply #4 on: Thu Nov 26, 2009 - 07:59:41 »

leviticus - speaking of the 7 x 390 years of punishment

26:18 `And if unto these ye hearken not to Me, -- then I have added to chastise you SEVEN times for your sins;

26:21 `And if ye walk with Me `in' opposition, and are not willing to hearken to Me, then I have added to you a plague SEVEN times, according to your sins,


26:24 then I have walked -- I also -- with you in opposition, and have smitten you, even I, SEVEN times for your sins;

26:28 then I have walked with you in the fury of opposition, and have chastised you, even I, SEVEN times for your sins.


ezekiel

4:5 And I -- I have laid on thee [Ezekiel] the years of their iniquity, the number of days, three hundred and ninety days; and thou hast borne the iniquity of the house of Israel.

God is giving Israel a warning to repent or he would do these things if they continued on in their sinful ways. He was reminding them of their centuries of evil doing by having the prophet lay on his side for 390 days (One day for each year.)

4:6 And thou hast completed these, and hast lain on thy right side, a second time, and hast borne the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days -- A DAY FOR A YEAR -- a day for a year I have appointed to thee.

He has the prophet lay on his side for another 40 days (one day for each year). What this means is that God is giving Israel 40 years to repent. After that he will do the things to them that he described in the above 7's. So they did not repent and they were given into the hands of their enemies and were led into captivity in Babylon for 70 years.

It is interesting that the Temple was destroyed in the siege and on the selfsame day the Temple of herod was also destroyed by the Romans. God again gave them 40 years to repent once again. Crucifixion to 70AD is 40 years. In both cases the Spirit of God left the Temple and hovered over the Mount of Olives - where Jesus was crucified.

It may make for an exciting and sensational hobby to bring all Bible prophesy into our day, but that is not what it is saying.


Excellent!  No literal (liberal) of the Bible here!  Thanks for reminding me about the 40 yrs. (30-70AD) when Israel was once again in the wilderness, & God was giving them some 40 yrs. to merge into the New Covenant in Christ.

It is Judah in Revelation (the Lion of the tribe of Judah) which comes to fulfill the promises to Old Covenant Israel. We see this in Revelation through the remnant.

The fulfillment of Genesis 49:10,
10 The scepter shall not depart from Judah,
      Nor a lawgiver from between his feet,
      Until Shiloh comes;
      And to Him shall be the obedience of the people.


"Shiloh" was another name for Messiah.

And i agree with you- Ezekiel is about them going into & coming out of captivity from Babylon.
Those who returned to Israel was mainly from the tribe of Judah. And as far as those- their return was voluntary.


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Re: leviticus and ezekiel prophecy fulfilled - in 1948
« Reply #5 on: Thu Nov 26, 2009 - 08:38:40 »
There has to be and event that marks the beginning of the 345 years for the house of Israel and another event that ends it. Have any ideas?

The 345 years began when Solomon became king of the house of Israel and ended with the destruction of Jerusalem in 586 B.C.

The 40 years is a separate prophecy for Judah, it is currently being fulfilled and will end with Gog's invasion of Jerusalem.

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« Reply #6 on: Thu Nov 26, 2009 - 09:48:01 »
There has to be and event that marks the beginning of the 345 years for the house of Israel and another event that ends it. Have any ideas?

The 345 years began when Solomon became king of the house of Israel and ended with the destruction of Jerusalem in 586 B.C.

The 40 years is a separate prophecy for Judah, it is currently being fulfilled and will end with Gog's invasion of Jerusalem.

No, I like the Preterist explanation  of Gog & Magog.  National Israel today has nothing to do with the Remnant of Old Covenant Israel in the 1st century AD. The Remnant was at that present time! (Romans 11:5) Even James wrote abroad to the 12 Tribes who didn't return to Jerusalem after the exile. The promises were fulfilled FIRST to the Jew, then to the Gentile. Not the other way around. God LEFT the temple made with hands 2,000yrs. ago. 


 

     
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