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Re: Mark of the Beast
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2011, 07:36:19 PM »
The scriptures reveal that an angel shouts not to take the mark of the beast or worship his image.

I don't believe this will be done without believers fully understanding.

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Re: Mark of the Beast
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 04:14:22 AM »
The scriptures reveal that an angel shouts not to take the mark of the beast or worship his image.

I don't believe this will be done without believers fully understanding.

In Revelation 14 there are three warnings to the people on earth.

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
[7] Saying with a loud voice,

 Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.KEEP THE SABBATH .GOD CREATED IN 6 DAYS AND SOON THE JUDGMENTDAY WILL COME-YEAR 2028-GET READY FOR THE JUDGMENT.


[8] And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.USA WILL BE BURNING AS SODOM AND GOMORRAH.LEAVE USA BEFORE IT HAPPENS OR YOU WILL A PART OF IT.


[9] And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

LIKE neBUSHadnezzar ENDTIME ANTICHRIST WILL ALSO SET UP AN IMAGE  . LIKE DANIEL AND HIS FRIEND PEOPLE HAVE TO CHOSE WHO TO WORSHIP.
[10] The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb

In Revelation 18 Babylon is revealed- THE USA.

And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
[2] And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, BABAYLON THE GREAT IS FALLEN, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
[3] For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
[4] And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
[5] For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
[6] Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
[7] How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.



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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 04:14:22 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 10:55:00 AM »
Does anyone really suppose that the beast and anti-christ power will be admitting that they are enforcing the mark of the beast upon all?  They will of course vehemently deny doing so, and accuse all that suggest such of being radical conspiracy theorists, or religious zealots, or any other number of false accusations to deceive if possible, even the very elect.  They will have the vast majority of the numberless masses of humanity on their side also. 

All those who will give the true warnings of scripture to this world, pertaining to these things, will be ridiculed and laughed at by the vast majority of this world.  Nothing but the grace of God Himself will get His elect through this fast approaching time.  I certainly hope that our pre-trib rapture brothers and sisters will not give up hope if they turn out to be wrong.  On the other hand, I certainly have no problem with being removed from this world by God before these things occur, though I think it highly unlikely.  Nevertheless, let each of us pray earnestly for the faith not only to make it through, but to continue to be God's faithful witnesses to the end. 

21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matt 10:21-22 (KJV)

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matt 24:9-14 (KJV)

10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations. 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. 12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. 13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Mark 13:10-13 (KJV)


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Re: Mark of the Beast
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2011, 11:05:33 AM »
Does anyone really suppose that the beast and anti-christ power will be admitting that they are enforcing the mark of the beast upon all?  They will of course vehemently deny doing so, and accuse all that suggest such of being radical conspiracy theorists, or religious zealots, or any other number of false accusations to deceive if possible, even the very elect.  They will have the vast majority of the numberless masses of humanity on their side also. 

All those who will give the true warnings of scripture to this world, pertaining to these things, will be ridiculed and laughed at by the vast majority of this world.  Nothing but the grace of God Himself will get His elect through this fast approaching time.  I certainly hope that our pre-trib rapture brothers and sisters will not give up hope if they turn out to be wrong.  On the other hand, I certainly have no problem with being removed from this world by God before these things occur, though I think it highly unlikely.  Nevertheless, let each of us pray earnestly for the faith not only to make it through, but to continue to be God's faithful witnesses to the end. 

21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matt 10:21-22 (KJV)

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matt 24:9-14 (KJV)

10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations. 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. 12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. 13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Mark 13:10-13 (KJV)


I'm not laughing---because I get laughed at often myself. But all the passages you've posted are to happen at an upcoming time (as I understand it).

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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2011, 10:21:49 AM »
Does anyone really suppose that the beast and anti-christ power will be admitting that they are enforcing the mark of the beast upon all?  They will of course vehemently deny doing so, and accuse all that suggest such of being radical conspiracy theorists, or religious zealots, or any other number of false accusations to deceive if possible, even the very elect.  They will have the vast majority of the numberless masses of humanity on their side also. 

All those who will give the true warnings of scripture to this world, pertaining to these things, will be ridiculed and laughed at by the vast majority of this world.  Nothing but the grace of God Himself will get His elect through this fast approaching time.  I certainly hope that our pre-trib rapture brothers and sisters will not give up hope if they turn out to be wrong.  On the other hand, I certainly have no problem with being removed from this world by God before these things occur, though I think it highly unlikely.  Nevertheless, let each of us pray earnestly for the faith not only to make it through, but to continue to be God's faithful witnesses to the end. 

21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matt 10:21-22 (KJV)

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matt 24:9-14 (KJV)

10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations. 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. 12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. 13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Mark 13:10-13 (KJV)



manna to you Amo as many do not understand what Jesus meant by those who shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. This means all those who are in Christ that do not take the mark of the beast and endure until the 7th trumpet call as we will be here for all of what must come in Revelation, but not to fear, but to be prepared for what has to come before the return of Christ for is bride. Antichrist is not from the USA as it has to come from Rome as history always repeats itself and the USA is just another extension of Romes mystery Babylon as America was founded on that of a Babylonian government. I too would like to be raptured out of here too per the pretrib teachings, but if you compare scripture with scripture that is not going to happen. I use to believe in the pretrib teachings until I started comparing scripture with scripture and found no Biblical support for those teachings.
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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2011, 06:24:59 PM »
 Antichrist is not from the USA as it has to come from Rome as history always repeats itself and the USA is just another extension of Romes mystery Babylon as America was founded on that of a Babylonian government

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Antichrist is Moloch-worshipper.












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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2011, 09:16:43 AM »
The scriptures reveal that an angel shouts not to take the mark of the beast or worship his image.

I don't believe this will be done without believers fully understanding.

the mark (stamped engraved image) is already been given out by the time of the angel (rev14:9) also THIS angel is in heaven same as angel before him (:6) and not on earth to be heard.
The whole point of the image on your hand is to seal your fate and not to keep track of you.... They only use buying and selling to get you to take a sealed fate with your god in lake if fire.

Remember Satan is incharge and he wants souls in LoF

this is no different than when someone dies, it seals their fate