May 27, 2012

[Kevin-2012]

As most will not know we are in the final 3 1/2 years of mans rule, life as we know it is changing we are close to the time that the bible makes clear will destroy one third of this world many have mocked these things calling Ron Wienland a false prophet and it makes me sick that mans pride has blinded our eyes, the bible also makes clear that we will hate Ron but that is the sickest thing of all. People need to wake up! repent and turn to god, stop following your pagan holidays, christmas, easter, ect all false!! If your heart tugs at you because of this go to the-end.com you may hate me but I don't care

[fish153]

Are you talking about the Ron Wienland who made this prophecy:

"By the fall of 2008, the United States will have collapsed as a world power, or it will have begun its collapse and no longer exist as an independent nation within six months after that time."

Well, let's see---it's been a year since the "fall of 2008" and I still see plenty of US flags flying in every state.  The Bible doesn't "make clear we will hate Ron"---but it does make clear that there will be many false prophets setting dates,  and making themselves out to be far more important than they are.

Mr. Wienland definitely falls into that category of people-and yes--the Bible does speak of Ron in the books of 2 Peter and Jude.

[son of God]

Hey, Kevin-2012, just a few questions here:

What is the scriptural requirement of a prophet?

What is the scriptual disqualification of a prophet?

[marc]

As most what will know? 

[Kevin-2012]

Let me ask you something in turn, where in the bible does it say to celebrate christmas, easter or any one of them, it does say in the ten comandments to keep the sabbath holy

[Angelos]

Who's Ron anyway?

[Kevin-2012]

If you do the thing right I'm sure most of you research most of what Ron Wienland says and just because you don't get the downfall of a country on a specific day you are smug about you should thank god that he has withheld that pain for a short time! If you really listen Ron said it began on the 17th of april 2008 that doesnt mean one day, the bible works different than pagan time and calanders! It's gods time sun up and sun down.

[Thankfulldad]

As most will not know we are in the final 3 1/2 years of mans rule, life as we know it is changing we are close to the time that the bible makes clear will destroy one third of this world many have mocked these things calling Ron Wienland a false prophet and it makes me sick that mans pride has blinded our eyes, the bible also makes clear that we will hate Ron but that is the sickest thing of all. People need to wake up! repent and turn to god, stop following your pagan holidays, christmas, easter, ect all false!! If your heart tugs at you because of this go to the-end.com you may hate me but I don't care

Well, this is interesting...by the way; why would we hate you?

Gods command is to love oneanother

[Kevin-2012]

Well, this is interesting...by the way; why would we hate you?

Gods command is to love oneanother

Most hate the truth and the truth teller, most churches today hate Jesus' message so they preach the messenger not the message

[Elaine]

As most will not know we are in the final 3 1/2 years of mans rule, life as we know it is changing we are close to the time that the bible makes clear will destroy one third of this world many have mocked these things calling Ron Wienland a false prophet and it makes me sick that mans pride has blinded our eyes, the bible also makes clear that we will hate Ron but that is the sickest thing of all. People need to wake up! repent and turn to god, stop following your pagan holidays, christmas, easter, ect all false!! If your heart tugs at you because of this go to the-end.com you may hate me but I don't care

Why do you capitalize  Ron's name --but not God, Christmas, Easter, Bible? You even capitalize the first word of sentence ---but not God?

Typo or some other undercurrent of an agenda?

[son of God]

Let me ask you something in turn, where in the bible does it say to celebrate christmas, easter or any one of them, it does say in the ten comandments to keep the sabbath holy

smoke screen, friend.  Can you not deal with the extant topic?  When one finds themselves shown to be in error, to turn and try to divert the topic is childish.  They do that in third grade.  Then again, is that what we are to expect from one who listens to a person who has undeniably been proven to be a false prophet -- by his own words and books which anybody can verify in just a moment?  Apparently so.  And will you acknowledge the truth in this matter?  Apparently not.  You have been rebuked twice, and thus according to the Word, I can have nothing more to do with you.  Sorry, but I see no other way in the Word on this one.

[Jimbob]

Are you talking about the Ron Wienland who made this prophecy:

"By the fall of 2008, the United States will have collapsed as a world power, or it will have begun its collapse and no longer exist as an independent nation within six months after that time."

Well, let's see---it's been a year since the "fall of 2008" and I still see plenty of US flags flying in every state.  The Bible doesn't "make clear we will hate Ron"---but it does make clear that there will be many false prophets setting dates,  and making themselves out to be far more important than they are.

Mr. Wienland definitely falls into that category of people-and yes--the Bible does speak of Ron in the books of 2 Peter and Jude.

Deut 18:20-22
20   'But the prophet who shall speak a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he shall speak in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'
21   "And you may say in your heart, 'How shall we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?'
22   "When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
(NAS)

Case closed.

[Kevin-2012]

smoke screen, friend.  Can you not deal with the extant topic?  When one finds themselves shown to be in error, to turn and try to divert the topic is childish.  They do that in third grade.  Then again, is that what we are to expect from one who listens to a person who has undeniably been proven to be a false prophet -- by his own words and books which anybody can verify in just a moment?  Apparently so.  And will you acknowledge the truth in this matter?  Apparently not.  You have been rebuked twice, and thus according to the Word, I can have nothing more to do with you.  Sorry, but I see no other way in the Word on this one.
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Childish? Brother I'll tell you I've been to these "churches" I've seen the Jesus that they preach, you talk of childish behavior, they are the childish ones! God says keep the sabbath holy and still our pride has along with the pope made sunday the day to worship False!!
You rebuke me? Not out of love friend but of pride, pride that blinds you from God's truth and that's s

[Jimbob]

The word of God is no smoke screen.  God Himself said that if a prophet shills a prophecy that doesn't come true, we are to ignore him, he is not from God.  To ignore the clear Word of God on this is to presume yourself wiser than God.

I'll pass on that, thank you.  Smoke and all.

[Bon Voyage]

I like what Ron Popeil talks about better.  At least he isn't making up stories, and he sells food dehydrators.