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Preparing to bunker down?
« on: Fri Mar 25, 2011 - 11:37:44 »
Maybe I've missed it?  So sorry if I have and someone please direct me to this subject if it is here.

Ok, who out there is planing on setting up a place to go to when this country (USA) gets worse?  I would like to converse with others and share info on how to be self sufficient in a homestead in a few years.  I've already looked into areas with lower taxed property taxes and which state is better there.  Am learning to grow corn this year to feed chickens, cows, dogs.  Searching on alternative means to heat/cool and refridge (i.e. solar panels, windmills).

Looked into bartering and paying taxes on that ~ learning how to can and pickle this year, AND to make Mom's homemade fudge, I'm sure I can get a cowboy to mend something for that yummy fudge, best in the world!  Have not learned how to bake bread yet.

Is there anyone else on this track?  I'd love to share ideas if so.

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« Reply #1 on: Fri Mar 25, 2011 - 12:01:29 »
Have you practiced going without sleep to do guard duty? Is your ability and available ammunition sufficient to ward off all the people in the world that will come down on you to take what you have because they were not prepared?

Bartering? You produce what you can, and receive in exchange what you need. For instance, when there was no sugar available, we planted sugar cane, and made sargum molasses to trade for other food stuffs. I've got to admit that there were few things better than those molasses on hot buttered biscuits.
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Have you practiced going without sleep to do guard duty? Is your ability and available ammunition sufficient to ward off all the people in the world that will come down on you to take what you have because they were not prepared?

Bartering? You produce what you can, and receive in exchange what you need. For instance, when there was no sugar available, we planted sugar cane, and made sargum molasses to trade for other food stuffs. I've got to admit that there were few things better than those molasses on hot buttered biscuits.

Dearest Larry, I was not asking for sarcasm as in your first paragraph.  I want to get a self sufficient small farm going.
I was hoping that some of the members had some valuable advice.  I would like to do this without judgment from anyone if that is possible?

The sugar cane sounds nice, so thanks.  Do you know what zone it grows best in?

(btw, the big dogs got the guard duty....I've already thought of that!  ::smile::)

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« Reply #3 on: Fri Mar 25, 2011 - 16:10:16 »
Oh, you don't have to ask for sarcasm here; it comes free with every the-world's-about-to-end post.

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« Reply #4 on: Fri Mar 25, 2011 - 16:35:47 »
What I find even more ironic is that the earth and all its works were created in SIX DAYS (not seven). And many of those expecting to "rule and reign" for "a thousand years" in a "millennium" with Christ do not realize they already do so if they are IN CHRIST NOW because one day with YHWH 'Elohiym is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as one day. One day that I am in Christ might as well be a millennium because those in Christ are eternal and "have passed from death unto life" (everlasting). You do not need a bunker Wednesday: this world (kosmos) is about to end.


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« Reply #5 on: Fri Mar 25, 2011 - 16:45:23 »

Sorry you are so delicate concerning truth and a little humor. Dogs will be no obstacle as even now there are whole neighborhoods where the dogs are being poisoned to make it easier to rob the homes there.

Sugar cane grew well in Western Arkansas, and I do not know where it wouldn't grow, but I suspect you could google information concerning any type crop you may want to grow.

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« Reply #6 on: Fri Mar 25, 2011 - 17:14:19 »
My husband and I are on a low income so we do some bartering among friends.  Bartering is okay but the downfall with it is that you have to find someone who is also willing to barter.  Most people today will pay for what they need rather than barter.  I do know people who are living the life style you want but they rely on the good will of others, government help (such as a benefit), and selling crafts and odd jobs to get the money they need. I have yet to meet anyone who is truly self sufficeint.  There are many things you will need that will take money and can't be bartered for - such as doctors or paying taxes.  What if you get ill and can't go out to plant your crops or harvest your crops.  You will need help from others then and that is not always easy to get when you need it.  My husband and I also grow our own veges but if you get a bad year, as we did last year, and your crop fails then you are going to have problems, food wise, for the coming year.  If it wasn't for the generosity of friends we would have had a very tough time.  I do bottle a lot of what we grow but even the amount I bottled wouldn't have lasted us a full year.  I say all this to make sure you realise there are pitfalls and advantages to this way of life.  Don't go into it with a romantic view of what being self sufficient means.  To be truly self sufficient is hard work and long hours but it can be rewarding if you are willing to do the work.    

As my husband just pointed out if you go to solar or wind powered generation for your electricity you also need batteries to store your electricity and the batteries do wear out.  Also solar panels and wind turbines need replacing periodically as does house wiring, etc.  All these things need to be taken into account when planning to live in this manner.        
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« Reply #7 on: Fri Mar 25, 2011 - 19:52:12 »
((((Nyoka)))

Thank you so very much!  This is the kind of info I am looking for.  Maybe I should have put this in another thread area, but was not sure where to put a thread for ways to live off the land.

I do plan on working so I will need to be near a hospital (I work in the medical field) but I'm so dang tired of everything getting taxed.  I'd complain if it would do any good.  This morning on the news (Fox news) there was a guy talking about a "new tax" for millage you drive!  Seems now that ppl are cutting back with the gas prices, our government is looking for a way to impose more taxes since they are not getting enough. He was saying they (gov) want to put something on your car to gage millage AND were you go!  I do not want any government assistance or want anything to do with the crooks!  Okay, maybe a bit government paranoid here, refuse to get on facebook ~ was raised by a  father that use to bury the money, but seems money is almost worthless now (i.e. the bartering idea).

Thanks again, good info!


@ Larry, thanks for the sugar cane info, I'll google it and see if it will grow in my zone but it is near where you are talking bout. Re: dogs, well......the more dogs I meet, the less I like people! 

@ Marc ~ yea, I'm figuring that out!  I should have put it in the general discussion area ::frown::

@ daq ~   ::whistle::

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« Reply #8 on: Sun Mar 27, 2011 - 17:41:04 »
Maybe I've missed it?  So sorry if I have and someone please direct me to this subject if it is here.

Ok, who out there is planing on setting up a place to go to when this country (USA) gets worse?  I would like to converse with others and share info on how to be self sufficient in a homestead in a few years.  I've already looked into areas with lower taxed property taxes and which state is better there.  Am learning to grow corn this year to feed chickens, cows, dogs.  Searching on alternative means to heat/cool and refridge (i.e. solar panels, windmills).

Looked into bartering and paying taxes on that ~ learning how to can and pickle this year, AND to make Mom's homemade fudge, I'm sure I can get a cowboy to mend something for that yummy fudge, best in the world!  Have not learned how to bake bread yet.

Is there anyone else on this track?  I'd love to share ideas if so.


Well, if the predictions of the end of the world are on May 21, then there is no place to bunker down. Worst yet, if it is the day of the rapture, then there will be 5 months for those get left behind before God burns up the planet. The best you can do is prepare enough food and water to last for 5 months if you do not die in the earthquake right away or at some later date, die of radiation poison or some kind of disease.

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Well, if the predictions of the end of the world are on May 21, then there is no place to bunker down. Worst yet, if it is the day of the rapture, then there will be 5 months for those get left behind before God burns up the planet. The best you can do is prepare enough food and water to last for 5 months if you do not die in the earthquake right away or at some later date, die of radiation poison or some kind of disease.

Did Mary Poppins drop you along with sugar cane and pumpkin pie?  ::noworries::

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« Reply #10 on: Mon Mar 28, 2011 - 13:18:21 »
Good topic.  Unfortunately I think your garden who have to be much bigger than you think.  Maybe 100 yards x 100 yards, due to the fact that the amount of food that would come into harvest at the same time would be minimal, and to feed say, a family of 4 for months on end, would take an enormous crop.  Not saying it can't be done, but the land and work required would be insane.  If you do it though........potatos, carrots & corn= most caloric/nutritional value I would think.  Just my .02

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« Reply #11 on: Mon Mar 28, 2011 - 15:56:36 »
Maybe I've missed it?  So sorry if I have and someone please direct me to this subject if it is here.

Ok, who out there is planing on setting up a place to go to when this country (USA) gets worse?  I would like to converse with others and share info on how to be self sufficient in a homestead in a few years.  I've already looked into areas with lower taxed property taxes and which state is better there.  Am learning to grow corn this year to feed chickens, cows, dogs.  Searching on alternative means to heat/cool and refridge (i.e. solar panels, windmills).

Looked into bartering and paying taxes on that ~ learning how to can and pickle this year, AND to make Mom's homemade fudge, I'm sure I can get a cowboy to mend something for that yummy fudge, best in the world!  Have not learned how to bake bread yet.

Is there anyone else on this track?  I'd love to share ideas if so.


Check with some Mormons.  They've got food, guns and ammunition stored to survive for many years.  They'll sell you some storage food if you need some. 

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« Reply #12 on: Mon Mar 28, 2011 - 18:09:35 »
Check with some Mormons.  They've got food, guns and ammunition stored to survive for many years.  They'll sell you some storage food if you need some.  

And that should not be to hard to do around here. Seems it was only a day or two ago someone was teaching about the "godmen" ruling and reigning over "the lesser brethren" during the millennium. Sorry though, can't remember what thread that was but it sounded like it came straight from the mouth of Moroni!

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« Reply #13 on: Mon Mar 28, 2011 - 18:18:55 »
It is about time!!!   Finally someone else is thinking about preparing for the worst of times.

I have been on this track...since God revieled the truth of 9/11 to me.
But Brother...be prepared for the "Pre Tribulation Rapture" believers to remain idle and think they will magically disappear just before things get too bad..

They will probably wind up being deceived along with the world...because thye will not beleive that the tribulation period has arrived...simply because they are still here

Get Chickens....simple to feed and they give you food everyday...also get some iodine....iodine cleans even stagnent water for drinking......write me an email here if you would like some more info on simple survival techs

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« Reply #14 on: Mon Mar 28, 2011 - 20:51:45 »
It is about time!!!   Finally someone else is thinking about preparing for the worst of times.

Get Chickens...


Extra Crispy or Original?      rofl


(j/k, couldn't help myself, lol!  I'll email you)

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« Reply #15 on: Wed Mar 30, 2011 - 20:07:15 »

Well, if the predictions of the end of the world are on May 21, then there is no place to bunker down. Worst yet, if it is the day of the rapture, then there will be 5 months for those get left behind before God burns up the planet. The best you can do is prepare enough food and water to last for 5 months if you do not die in the earthquake right away or at some later date, die of radiation poison or some kind of disease.

Did Mary Poppins drop you along with sugar cane and pumpkin pie?  ::noworries::

Thanks for the gentle words, but I Mary Popins was in, I would let her do the thinking for me.