Hey again dpr,
The Anti-christ was not going to claim that He was JESUS. He was going to claim He was Daniel 9:25’s prophesied MESSIAH, meaning the anointed one called CHRIST. For us, these are one and the same, but not for the Jews of our Lord’s generation who rejected Him. The Anti-christ was going to stake a claim on the title “King of the Jews” (a title of “King” which the Lord Jesus Christ claimed before Pilate).
Didn't you even read what I showed in my previous post?
Our Lord Jesus made it emphatic in Matthew 24:23-26 about a pseudo-Christ coming to work "great signs and wonders" that IF it were possible, would deceive His very elect. The descriptive for "very" about the very elect is in the Greek too, showing that is emphasized also. That is pointing to His elect that He already owns, like those of John 17. Those cannot be deceived, as He already owns His very elect. We only become the very elect with them by joining with them and remaining faithful to Christ, waiting on His return. The point being, that coming pseudo-Christ, which Dr. James Strong translated that "false Christs" as a singular spurious Messiah, is to have power to work miracles to deceive on the level of almost causing Christ's very elect to believe it. That is not a light thing, and NO flesh born man that has come claiming to be Jesus has ever done that, nor will. That working at the end is reserved for the real son of perdition himself, i.e., the devil.
In 1 John 2:18, he gave 2 different examples using the word "antichrist". In the first part he was speaking of a singular antichrist the brethren had already heard shall come. In the second part he then exclaimed about the "many antichrists" that were already at work, which is about the "mystery of iniquity" subject Paul mentioned in 2 Thess.2. The "many antichrists" idea is from the Old Testament, same with the "mystery of iniquity". It's about the "workers of iniquity", a specific group of workers against God that were ordained of old per the Book of Jude. We were shown about that mystery early on in God's Word. So there's really no excuse for not knowing about it.
As for the beasts of Revelation 13, I’m not denying there are two mentioned there. One comes out of the sea, and the other Beast from the land that collaborates and supports the Sea Beast comes up out of the EARTH (ge - the land of Israel) - NOT from out of the bottomless pit.
The Rev.13 beast pattern is from the Book of Daniel. That is why Rev.13:2 refers us back to Dan.7. And that pattern involved a beast kingdom AND a beast king over it. Daniel 4 even shows how God caused the king of Babylon Nebuchadnezzar to live in the wild like a beast, suffering the rare disease of madness known as Lycanthropy. That is the Rev.13 pattern of the 2 beasts also, one is about a kingdom and the other is about a king. Revelation 9:11, Revelation 11:7, Revelation 12:3-4 and Revelation 12:7-17 were to give one this understanding by the time they get to Rev.13. Revelation 17:8-11 makes it even more plain about the beast king idea, which is the pattern of the "little horn" from Dan.7.
Thusly, the "another beast" of Rev.13:11 forward that ascends up out of the earth is about that same beast of Rev.17:8 and Rev.11:7 that ascends out of the bottomless pit. And NO flesh born man ascends out of the bottomless pit. The label "Land beast" is just a side-step ploy to get one away from understanding the Scripture as written. The Antichrist is who works the miracles and wonders, not the beast kingdom which is associated with actual land because its "seven heads" we are told mean "seven mountains" (Rev.17). The "sea" is represented by the "waters" in Rev.17:15, which are about peoples and nations on earth.
The bottomless pit is not a LOCATION per se, but a CONDITION of death or non-functioning existence, just as Christ while in the grave was in the bottomless pit (abussos) in Romans 10:7.
The bottomless pit is about the abyss, what the Greeks called Hades, and what Jesus also referred to as haides
, or hell, the abode of the wicked dead in the heavenly dimension. It is a REAL place. It's just not in our earthy dimension. Peter even told us the fallen angels that sinned in Noah's day are kept in chains in "hell" (tartaroo
), the deepest part of the abyss, reserved unto judgment (2 Peter 2). There is a literal prison in that pit of hell, and that is where our Lord Jesus went to preach to the "spirits in prison" to free those who believed The Gospel (1 Peter 3; Isaiah 42:7). It is that place which Satan is king over, even though he is still free to roam today (1 Peter 5:8).
The THIRD BEAST from Revelation 17:8 (the Scarlet Beast found in the wilderness) was ”ABOUT TO ARISE” from out of that abyss of a non-functioning state, and was also ABOUT TO GO INTO DESTRUCTION in John’s days - NOT in our future. Again, you are missing the imminent time frame of these manifestations, which would all take place in days that were “AT HAND” in the very near future for John’s readers (Rev. 1:3 and 22:10). By missing all the soon-coming references to a near time fulfillment, it is throwing your entire interpretation of Revelation’s prophecies off-kilter.
The beast of Rev.17:8 is the same beast of Rev.9:11, Rev.11:7, and Rev.13:11 forward. The scarlet colored beast we are told has ten horns and seven heads. That is not a 3rd beast, it is the same 1st beast of Rev.13:1, the one that has ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns.
Per Rev.17, the "great whore" is that "woman" in that Chapter, which is a "great city
" per the last verse. She sits upon that scarlet colored beast, which is the beast kingdom of ten horns, seven heads. She sits upon many waters also, which Rev.17:15 defines as peoples and nations.
But the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit, and goes into perdition, is about the beast king over it. He represents the "little horn" of Daniel 7. The ten horns are ten kings we're told there, and they represent the ten horns of the last beast of Dan.7. Those ten give their power to the beast, which means the beast king, the "little horn", for there are 11 kings total being described in Dan.7. The "little horn" king comes up among the ten and subdues 3 of the kings. Haven't you studied this?