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Re: The Abomination of Desolation
« Reply #60 on: October 05, 2009, 05:52:20 PM »
well rezar I am sorry you have no need of looking at these sites as you are missing what is happening in the world right now as we type in here. All we have to do is look at what is happening in the world as God has always given us signs to watch out for before the return of Jesus. It doesn't matter what we agree with or disagree with, but Gods word says what it says and I believe what He has already said.
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Re: The Abomination of Desolation
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Re: The Abomination of Desolation
« Reply #61 on: October 05, 2009, 06:17:32 PM »
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All we have to do is look at what is happening in the world as God has always given us signs to watch out for before the return of Jesus.
We should be up on current events, weather, politics, health topics, etc.  It's where your needs & interest lies too.
Jesus came so that we would have life on earth, abundantly. Now. He told His 1st disciples signs to watch out for- the signs of the end of the age, & the signs of His coming.

Luke 21:20-22,
The Destruction of Jerusalem
   
20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.


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Re: The Abomination of Desolation
« Reply #61 on: October 05, 2009, 06:17:32 PM »

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Re: The Abomination of Desolation
« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2009, 07:40:28 PM »
Matthew 24:27  For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 24:28  For wheresoever the carcass is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matthew 24:29  Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matthew 24:30  And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:31  And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

We can read these scriptures and speculate what they mean, but this is what The Holy Spirit has shown me according to the progression of nuclear warheads. The lightning represents nuclear fire as it reaches from the east to the west with the east being possibly Russia or China as they now have the capability of long range missiles that can reach the shores of America, which is the west. Immediately after the tribulation of those days, what days, the day they decide to launch those missiles, and the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give light and the stars shall fall from heaven, which could be asteroids. Now what else could cause the sun to be blocked out by day and the moon at night other then a nuclear blast.

I'm not asking anyone to agree with this, but to at least think of the possibility because Jesus said in His own words that after all of this then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven and all will mourn, I believe this to be the ones who rejected Jesus as why would we mourn His coming in the clouds. Then the angels will come with  a sound of a trumpet, no silent rapture here, and gather all of Gods children to take us home to paradise, or the new heaven and the new earth. This earth will not be destroyed as God has already said he would not destroy it, but it will be renewed in all it's beauty again. There is a lot more to this, but I have already explained this in my blog Second Coming of Christ or you can go to my website at www.ourchurch.com/member/m/ministering and click on Second Coming of Christ.

Matthew 24:36  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Matthew 24:37  But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 24:38  For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
Matthew 24:39  And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


 
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Re: The Abomination of Desolation
« Reply #63 on: October 06, 2009, 08:42:45 AM »

Yes, well i was never preached to about "end-times" throughout my Christian walk & church life.
Eschatology was not taught & i know why now.  But the anointing has been given & we don't need to live for some future fiction only.
Besides, futurists cannot prove anything. They are baby Christians in that they should learn about Biblical eschatology anyway & stop living in the past &/or future. Jesus promises us eternal life now. And some Christians still suffer healthwise & by self-imposed spiritual sickness.

The abundant life is for today- for us & our children. The kingdom of heaven was near 2,000 yrs. ago.
Only an ignorant Christian would keep senselessly ignoring Jesus' words & promises.

He spoke to the 1st century disciples about "wars & famines", & current events. The parables are indeed about Christ's contemporaries.

You must understand how God speaks to man & be able to discern His timing in Scripture- not one's interpretation of God timing as He relates to man.

Sometimes, if we are fortunate enough, God speaks directly to us through His still small voice to our Spirit.

If you are fortunate enough at times, God not only speaks the Truth to you- but shows you visions. Then one knows exactly what they are suppose to know.

The Holy Spirit makes His presence known right now. He can be with you in Spirit & Truth, but you must tune into God's voice & also sometimes He may give you a burning bush moment or 2 concerning heaven or hell - loved ones included- He may just answer your prayers like He did mine!

Praise God! 


Try living for today & the meeting realistic goals for the near future.

Theology that says Jesus failed to keep His promises to the apostles & disciples- AND God failing to keep His promise to OT prophets & saints (ie. resurrection of the dead)
just perpetuates peoples' fears about God & Jesus not fulfilling & His word. People have a hard time believing in a god that seemed to have made false promises.
I know, i look at the Text, & i say to myself, if this didn't happen, i would not believe.

That's why you're not being able to acknowledge His presence now bothers me. The future on this earth is for us & our children.
Not some religious armageddon like Jesus returning or 12th Iman(Shiite Muslim) returning.

My children will have a future life on this earth. The earth will not change until it actually does. You predict the world will end.

It's so dumb anyway.  Everyone goes to heaven eventually. Whether they seek a relationship with God now in this life & enjoy all His blessings & believe His promises & protection- is up to them.

But you're fighting yourself. The devil has been defeated. The heavenlies have no evil spirits about them. That's over! Man makes his own evil or not.

You can preach fear & live a fearful end. I won't. The joy is both the journey & the destination!

I'd walk out on a service that preached future end-times, btw.


The only end is heaven for us. The Bible prophecies have all been fulfilled 2k yrs. ago.





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Re: The Abomination of Desolation
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Re: The Abomination of Desolation
« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2009, 12:45:31 AM »
well rezar I am sorry you have no need of looking at these sites as you are missing what is happening in the world right now as we type in here. All we have to do is look at what is happening in the world as God has always given us signs to watch out for before the return of Jesus. It doesn't matter what we agree with or disagree with, but Gods word says what it says and I believe what He has already said.
He is much like many Christians....They believe in God....Yet when they see God working in the world....They use their intellect to dismiss it as something else

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Re: The Abomination of Desolation
« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2009, 12:45:31 AM »