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The Antichrist is from where
« on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 07:32:28 »
Again we will SEE that the antichrist comes out of the roman empire or those who were part of the roman empire and this PUTS another stake in the Islamic Antichrist.....

In Dan 9:24 we see the seventy weeks are determined for israelites and Jerusalem to FINNISH the transgressions... AND bring in EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS (Christ 1000 yr reign then new heaven and new earth) to anoint the MOST HIGH (Jesus)

So this IS about the end times

now 69 weeks have already past.... V26 Christ cut off (crucifiction)

we see in v 26 the answer....  The PEOPLE of the PRINCE to come shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary.... Now WE know that the people who destroyed the temple were the ROMAN EMPIRE and that the PRINCE will come and v. 27 make a one week (7 yrs) with many which starts the tribulation period..... This IS the Antichrist who will STOP the daily sacrifices in the temple in Jerusalem.    Now we know that Satan will always go after the one true God and that the these daily sacrifices are the Israelites practice.......

We see that the prince to come is of the Roman empire NOT Islamic empire.....


Dan 8:8 tells us about the Greek empire with the he goat (8:21) is Alexander the Great who was VERY GREAT..... Now who is the little horn of v.9? Well HE waxes (is) EXCEEDINGLY GREAT.... no one out of the greek empire was GREATER than Alexander the Great... As of today..... So this IS the Antichrist....

You can still beat Micah 5:5 as being the Antichrist but if you realized the Assyrians ARE part of GOG

Gog IS the Islamic nations God WILL destroy them we see mentioned in ezekiel 38:21 that God will turn Gogs army against each other... And pestilences and blood overflowing rains great hailstones fire and brimestone..... We see that THIS is NOT what happens to the Antichrist and his armies...


This way the bible HAS ALL the players of the world

Antichrist - western nations
Gog - Islamic nations
north - Russia (dan 11:44)
east - china (dan 11:44)

now compare to the other view

Antichrist - Islam
gog - Antichrist Islam
east - Islam
the most powerful nations (US western nations) vacation ( you know America NEVER gets Involved in world affairs...
China is ALSO not seen by the Islamic pushers

So the 2 most powerful armies ARENT anywhere to be found and at best are after thoughts.


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« Reply #1 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 08:32:50 »
Daniel's 70th week [the one "7"] is all about a future day still pending .... all of it

The people of the angelic prince in the human little horn that shall come were not the Romans in the first century .... these will be the followers of the little horn who will rise in the Middle East at the end of this present age [the stirring in the Middle East today is setting up the stage for the 70th week to roll]

It will be the Lord [the Messiah Prince]who will confirm the covenant with the believing remnant part of Israel [the "many"] during the 70th week decreed for Israel ..... and it will be the other prince [Abaddon-Apollyon] who will come to desecrate as the middle of the 70th week .... this prince will invade and occupy Israel, Jerusalem, and the temple mount for 42 months [1260 days] [Revelation 11:2] and then the Lord will destroy him and his followers [Daniel 9:24-27] [Ezekiel 39; Joel 2; 3; Zechariah 14; Revelation 19:11-21]

Daniel's vision of the 70th week is all about Israel [his people] ..... there is nothing in this vision about the Lord's church]

The idea of a revived Roman Empire is bogus and not seen in the prophetic visions .... this interpretation of reformation theology fabricated in the past is moot .... the reformers misinterpreted the prophetic visions out of ignorance

The prince that shall come will be a Middle Eastern confederator .... not a European Pope ruling a revived ancient Papal Rome [Psalms 83 [Ashur]; Ezekiel 38 [Satan, gog, is his "god"]; 39: Daniel 8:9-12; 8:23-25; 9:26-27; 11:36-45; 12:7; Micah 5:5-6; Revelation 13:1-4 [this beast's 3 significant ancient Middle Eastern kingdoms identify him .... leopard, bear, lion] [Daniel 7:4-6]

Certain conspiracy theorists have latched upon old reformation misinterpretations and use them to promote anti-Semitic NWO conspiracy hype .... there is absolutely nothing in the prophetic visions that present this meddling

And the Middle East never became "Greek" but remained Babylonians, Assyrians, Medes; Persians, Turks, Arabs, Canaanites, etc .... and still is today .... these  populations are 97% Islamic

KB uses his NWO concoction to support his following of the current conspiracy train as reflected in a number of his other postings ..... these ideas are totally extra-biblical and are the stories of gas bag political pundits
   
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« Reply #2 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 10:08:09 »
Dan 9:26 tells us that Jesus shall be cut off
then the temple will be destroyed
and the prince which will come (9:27)
and from the same people that destroys the temple

and we know it was ROMANS who did this.... Yet you lie and say no that's not true
the bible says so..... You twist cleat verses which conflict with your twisted views.... Anyone can see what I said is true... Except those who DO NOT study but have a pre concieved idea and won't let scripture get in his way


Hey linker Rev 21 says SATAN decieves GOG..... how do you still say gog is Satan

Bible says that's a lie...... Satan can't be and decieve both

same with Rome above.... The BIBLE says what it says.... Stay blind and decieve many

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« Reply #3 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 10:12:20 »
When Jesus was telling about not one stone left upon another, it was the ROMANS who came and did that.... You can't deny this linker..... Or can you

And we know Daniel was talking about the temple that Jesus was talking about

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« Reply #4 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 10:14:52 »
I don't think that you understand the prophetic visions as you think you do and I would suggest that you dump what you have been taught by false teachers [or those who lack understanding] and spend some time re-studying you Bible .... especially shed the conspiracy junk that you feed on via the Internet and other sources

.... but my best guess is that you will not ..... you have to decide for yourself

I am always suspect of those like yourself who lash out with immature demeanor against those who do not hold you views

Why not just agree to disagree and move on?

Jesus Christ is the same today and yesterday ..... and will be tomorrow

He watches what humans do with His Word ..... and He decides the value .... don't you think?

 

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« Reply #5 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 10:17:50 »
Linker

Who destroyed the temple? Rome or Islam

and whose prince (Antichrist) of those temple destroyers would also be a who?  Rome or Islam

now I know the world says ROME.... But what does linker say?

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« Reply #6 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 10:23:59 »
"When Jesus was telling about not one stone left upon another, it was the ROMANS who came and did that.... You can't deny this linker..... Or can you"

Of course I can .... and I have already told before what my view is on this very matter

What are you looking for? ..... for some one to convince you

I think your view is wrong ..... so what are you looking for?

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« Reply #7 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 10:25:55 »
Linker do you really want to see who constantly puts others down by me making a whole post on it?  

You put down everyone, I only do you..... You never answer stuff right

link don't run yet.... Who destroyed the temple?

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« Reply #8 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 10:29:53 »
"When Jesus was telling about not one stone left upon another, it was the ROMANS who came and did that.... You can't deny this linker..... Or can you"

Of course I can .... and I have already told before what my view is on this very matter

What are you looking for? ..... for some one to convince you

I think your view is wrong ..... so what are you looking for?

there's no view but fact Rome destroyed the temple so good luck with other views

not looking for anything THATS why I did this post AND YOU came here, so you don't make sense on that point.......  Ok let's disagree cause I can't argue with anyone other than Rome destroying the temple.....

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« Reply #9 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 10:30:42 »
Only linker can come to someones post and then accuse someone of stirring up trouble 

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« Reply #10 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 10:44:36 »
I will tell you once more  .... the Roman invasions of 70 A.D. are not a part of the scope of the visions of the Bible prophets .... simply not there [one major reason for scrubbing the theology of preterism]

What is there is an invasion made by the "prince that shall come" .... but this one has not yet appeared

The Roman invasions came after the end end of the 69th week decreed for Israel and they were not part of the 70 week still pending .... this invasion and many other subsequent and significant events upon the earth are simply not recorded in the scope of the prophetic visions

If you ever get this you will learn what you need to know about Bible prophecy

.... not one stone left standing .....when Lord?

At the time of the end during the 70th week decreed

Guess what ..... the first century temple is gone .... and it will not be re-built during the coming tribulation as some think

There is not one stone of the temple left standing today, and there will not be just as He said there will not be

Do you think He is right about this fact ..... or wrong?  

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« Reply #11 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 10:46:46 »
It will be the Lord [the Messiah Prince]who will confirm the covenant with the believing remnant part of Israel [the "many"] during the 70th week decreed for Israel ..... and it will be the other prince [Abaddon-Apollyon] who will come to desecrate as the middle of the 70th week .... this prince will invade and occupy Israel, Jerusalem, and the temple mount for 42 months [1260 days] [Revelation 11:2] and then the Lord will destroy him and his followers [Daniel 9:24-27] [Ezekiel 39; Joel 2; 3; Zechariah 14; Revelation 19:11-21]


The one who makes the agreement is the SAME one who brakes it

it even says so In Daniel 9:27. And HE shall confirm the covenant with many for one week and in the middle of that week he shall cause the sacrifice to cease.... So you have this wrong.... This isn't a point of interpretation but it plainly says he BOTH makes and brakes....... Wow your right let's NOT get into others post ..... Wow


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« Reply #12 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 10:58:34 »
"The one who makes the agreement is the SAME one who brakes it"

Wrong .... again you just can't get it because of pre-conceptions that you have been taught

Not the same ..... different [and I have explained this to you before as well]

There are two princes in verse 9:27 .... not one

The first "He" is Jesus Christ ..... the second "he" is the other prince

Verse 9:26 is repeated in verse 9:27 about the two princes

It is the Lord who confirms the covenant with the "many" [a believing remnant part of Israel] during the coming 70th week left to complete [Jeremiah 31:31-37] ... and all 6 objectives will be reached for the remnant [this vision has nothing to do with the Lord's church of today]

The other prince will not and cannot confirm this covenant

Until you get this straightened out in your thinking you will always head off in the wrong direction with the rest of the story

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« Reply #13 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 12:07:28 »
"The one who makes the agreement is the SAME one who brakes it"

answer:

This covenant between Antichrist and the nation of Israel is mentioned many places in Scripture.

In Psalms 55 Antichrist is mentioned as Israels beste friend.



We took SWEET COUNSEL together, and walked unto the house of God in company.
[15] ....
[18] He (ANTICHRIST)hath put forth his hands against such as be at peace with him: he hath BROKEN HIS COVENANT.
[21] The words of his 8ANTICHRIST)mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords....

In Isaiah  28 the covenant in again mentioned.

Because ye have said, We have made a COVENANT WITH DEATH, and with HELL are we at AGREEMENT; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves.

In Habakkuk 2 we are told who is DEATH and HELL.

"Yea also, because he  (ANTICHRIST) transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as HELL, and is as DEATH, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:
[6] Shall not all these take up a parable against him (ANTICHRIST), and a taunting proverb against him, and say, Woe to him that increaseth that which is not his! how long? and to him that ladeth himself with thick clay!
[7] Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booties unto them?
[8] Because thou hast spoiled many nations, all the remnant of the people shall spoil thee; because of men's blood, and for the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein."

Israel makes an agreement with DEATH and HELL - THE ANTICHRIST. He is an alcoholic. He is Israels best friend.

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His words are smooth and Knesset loves to listen to Antichrist words.

http://bki.no/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3642

But he wants to be a world-dictator.

His inspiration is from Moloch.

Satan said to Yeshua that he could rule the whole earth if he just bow down to him.

http://www.markswatson.com/bushac.htm

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« Reply #14 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 12:45:15 »
It is you who puts the coming "anti-Christ" in the scriptures you present

For example .... Psalms 55 speaks of the Lord's covenant with Israel which the nation broke continuously ..... not some future false peace covenant with the "prince that shall come"

And I can tell you that the "prince that shall come is" not the same

Israel has made alliances with their enemies in the past like Egypt and the Assyrians rather than relying upon the Lord for their protection ..... this is what the Lord calls a "covenant with hell and death" ..... when Israel did this thing, the Lord gave them up to their folly

But they will not do anything like this with the "prince that shall come" who will be their known and perceived enemy at the time of the end

Habakkuk's vision is of the Babylonian Chaldeans who came against Israel in the past and of king Nebuchadnezzar .... this vision is not one of the future from today, but a near term prophecy was fulfilled

"Knesset loves to listen to Antichrist word"

This would be impossible at this time because the "prince that shall come" has not yet appeared on the earth

Not even secular Israel will trust in an outsider for the nation's protection when push comes to shove ..... these trust in themselves which is also a problem for them .... and they will certainly never trust in the "prince that shall come" [Micah 5:5-6]

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« Reply #15 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 12:52:27 »
Habakkuk's vision is of the Babylonian Chaldeans who came against Israel in the past and of king Nebuchadnezzar .... this vision is not one of the future from today, but a near term prophecy was fulfilled

ANSWER.

I recommend these pages.

http://ariel.org/dlc/dlc-exw-hab05.htm

You see,neBUSHadnezzar was also a picture of Antichrist in endtime.

He put up the  " image of the beast" or you could say "the image of neBUSHadnezzar"

"In this verse wine is personified and thought of as a person who will not stay at home, but will go where those things are that will satisfy him. In thus speaking, the prophet had Nebuchadnezzar in mind. It was very fitting that he should speak of Nebuchadnezzar in terms of the effects that wine has upon the drinker who takes it in excess. According to abundant evidence, the Babylonians were heavy drinkers of wine. Nebuchadnezzar, like a man who is intoxicated, continually launched expeditions against neighboring countries for the purpose of loot and pillage. With him might was right. He, therefore, overran smaller nations, pillaging their countries and annexing their territories to his own. The prophet, therefore, said that he would not stay at home but enlarged “his desire as Sheol, and he is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heappeth unto him all peoples.

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« Reply #16 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 12:59:33 »
All human kings who have and do stand against the Lord are "anti-Christ" .... this is what the term means "against Jesus Christ"

But the verses you offer are specific and were fulfilled in the distant past .... and they do not speak of the "prince that shall come"

.... who will not confirm the covenant of Daniel 9 with Israel at the end of this present age

It is the Lord Himself who will confirm and reach the 6 objectives of His covenant for a believing remnant of His nation at the time of the end

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« Reply #17 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 13:58:39 »
The covenant i Daniel 9 is all about the last seven years when the  nation of Israel  has made this agreement with Antichrist (GOG)

When the war in ELAM,SUSA

See the map.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susa

as written in Daniel 8 starts in Hormuz and GOG-returns you will perhaps understand

"In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.
[2] And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai"


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« Reply #18 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 15:28:02 »
Sorry, but your jargon is of some other source .... things that do not fit the prophetic scriptures and related records of the history of the Middle East at all .... not even close

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« Reply #19 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 15:41:37 »
Again we will SEE that the antichrist comes out of the roman empire or those who were part of the roman empire and this PUTS another stake in the Islamic Antichrist.....

In Dan 9:24 we see the seventy weeks are determined for israelites and Jerusalem to FINNISH the transgressions... AND bring in EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS (Christ 1000 yr reign then new heaven and new earth) to anoint the MOST HIGH (Jesus)

So this IS about the end times

now 69 weeks have already past.... V26 Christ cut off (crucifiction)

we see in v 26 the answer....  The PEOPLE of the PRINCE to come shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary.... Now WE know that the people who destroyed the temple were the ROMAN EMPIRE and that the PRINCE will come and v. 27 make a one week (7 yrs) with many which starts the tribulation period..... This IS the Antichrist who will STOP the daily sacrifices in the temple in Jerusalem.    Now we know that Satan will always go after the one true God and that the these daily sacrifices are the Israelites practice.......

We see that the prince to come is of the Roman empire NOT Islamic empire.....


Dan 8:8 tells us about the Greek empire with the he goat (8:21) is Alexander the Great who was VERY GREAT..... Now who is the little horn of v.9? Well HE waxes (is) EXCEEDINGLY GREAT.... no one out of the greek empire was GREATER than Alexander the Great... As of today..... So this IS the Antichrist....

You can still beat Micah 5:5 as being the Antichrist but if you realized the Assyrians ARE part of GOG

Gog IS the Islamic nations God WILL destroy them we see mentioned in ezekiel 38:21 that God will turn Gogs army against each other... And pestilences and blood overflowing rains great hailstones fire and brimestone..... We see that THIS is NOT what happens to the Antichrist and his armies...


This way the bible HAS ALL the players of the world

Antichrist - western nations
Gog - Islamic nations
north - Russia (dan 11:44)
east - china (dan 11:44)

now compare to the other view

Antichrist - Islam
gog - Antichrist Islam
east - Islam
the most powerful nations (US western nations) vacation ( you know America NEVER gets Involved in world affairs...
China is ALSO not seen by the Islamic pushers

So the 2 most powerful armies ARENT anywhere to be found and at best are after thoughts.



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« Reply #20 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 15:49:48 »
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« Reply #21 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 16:05:16 »
we see in v 26 the answer....  The PEOPLE of the PRINCE to come shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary.... Now WE know that the people who destroyed the temple were the ROMAN EMPIRE and that the PRINCE will come and v. 27 make a one week (7 yrs) with many which starts the tribulation period..... This IS the Antichrist who will STOP the daily sacrifices in the temple in Jerusalem.    Now we know that Satan will always go after the one true God and that the these daily sacrifices are the Israelites practice.......

ANSWER:

CORRECT.

In year 70 Jerusalem was taken by Titus . The temple was destroyeD.

But this event was no the fullfilment of prophecy.

The abomination of desolation will be a reality when Antichrist sits in the temple of God in Jerusalem .

The temple will be rebuilt about year 2021.

The last seven years is the period 2021- 2028 when the jubilee number 120 or 6000 years will end.
After 6000 years the millennium will start and Yeshua will be King over the whole world.

Antichrist will help the Jews to rebuild the temple.

Isaiah 14 tells about  him.

Lucifer is this Antichrist who has incarnated  this human beeing.


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« Reply #22 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 16:26:56 »
Date setting is not for you to do son ..... no one knows the time

.... and the "anti-christ" will not be a "bush"

Revelation 9:11 has a very different description

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« Reply #23 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 16:49:20 »
If you study the fall feasts of the Lord you will understand that you are misunderstanding of these verses:

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
[33] So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
[34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
[35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
[36] But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
[37] But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

The fall feasts of the Lord

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You see . The first 4 days have been fulfilled . That happend when Yeshua came 2000 years ago.


Now we are waiting for the fulfillment of the 3 last Feasts or days.


1/7 Yom Teruah (the day  know man could tell.only God)

10/7 Yom Kipper - Jugdment day

15/7 Succoth or  the Feast of Tabernacles.


In Lev. 23  and 25 you can study these thing.

The last three fall feasts will be fulfilled after 6000 years in the Jubilee. Yom Kippur will fall the 10th day in the seventh Mount.


] And the LORD spake unto Moses in mount Sinai, saying,
[2] Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the LORD.
[3] Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof;
[4] But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard.
[5] That which groweth of its own accord of thy harvest thou shalt not reap, neither gather the grapes of thy vine undressed: for it is a year of rest unto the land.
[6] And the sabbath of the land shall be meat for you; for thee, and for thy servant, and for thy maid, and for thy hired servant, and for thy stranger that sojourneth with thee,
[7] And for thy cattle, and for the beast that are in thy land, shall all the increase thereof be meat.
[8] And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years.
[9] Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land.
[10] And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.
[11] A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed.
[12] For it is the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field.
[13] In the year of this jubile ye shall return every man unto his possession


The very important day to watch for is the Yom Teruah. The Jews wer watching forthis moment  when teh New Moon appeared over Jerusalem. Then they knew when Yom Kippur would fall 10 days later.

These 10 days were the days of awe.

http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday3.htm

The ten days starting with Rosh Hashanah and ending with Yom Kippur are commonly known as the Days of Awe (Yamim Noraim) or the Days of Repentance. This is a time for serious introspection, a time to consider the sins of the previous year and repent before Yom Kippur.

One of the ongoing themes of the Days of Awe is the concept that G-d has "books" that he writes our names in, writing down who will live and who will die, who will have a good life and who will have a bad life, for the next year. These books are written in on Rosh Hashanah, but our actions during the Days of Awe can alter G-d's decree. The actions that change the decree are "teshuvah, tefilah and tzedakah," repentance, prayer, good deeds (usually, charity). These "books" are sealed on Yom Kippur. This concept of writing in books is the source of the common greeting during this time is "May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year."

We do not know the day and hour before the NEW MOON tells us.

In the millennium all people have to do this:

 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
[23] And it shall come to pass, that from one NEW MOON to another, and from ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Because of this very false apostle Paul the replacement theology has destroyed Gods wonderful teaching in OT.

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Re: The Antichrist is from where
« Reply #24 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 17:09:39 »
What are you muttering false apostle?


This is a SERIOUS accusation and antibiblical on so many levels.


Romans 11:28
 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

The apostle Paul never axed the Jews, as the Father has a plan for them.

The other disciples reverence Paul in their writing, to discount Paul is to discount nearly all the new testament, so why pretend to be a Christian?

The only false prophets are the false teachers, that have taught that the Jews are no longer included in the plan of God.

The plan is that All of Israel shall be saved, through Jesus Christ.

Romans 11:26
 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:


Please reevaluate your position concerning Paul, lest the Lord smite thee.

Hebrews 12:6
 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.



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Re: The Antichrist is from where
« Reply #25 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 17:17:31 »
The other disciples reverence Paul in their writing, to discount Paul is to discount nearly all the new testament, so why pretend to be a Christian?

WE or I am not allowed to discuss this matter (PAUL) here.The debateleader told me.

Sorry.

The replacement theology is very false .

Yeshua told us to keep all the commandments.
They are still in the ark of covenant.

Why do not all Christians keep the Sabbath?

Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
[9] Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
[10] But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
[11] For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
[12] Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

The answer is simple.
The false replacement theology.

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Re: The Antichrist is from where
« Reply #26 on: Sun Jan 08, 2012 - 17:27:16 »
The Jews must accept their true king Jesus and they will in time.

Rejecting Jesus is a greater sin than failing to keep the sabbath day.

Also many Christians do keep the 7th day holy, they may not even realize it or celebrate it, just that on that day they did good deeds and kept themselves clean, but failed to celebrate it and reap the greater blessing.






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Re: The Antichrist is from where
« Reply #27 on: Mon Jan 09, 2012 - 06:28:21 »
The antichrist is from where?
As Jacob predicted in Genesis 49, the antichrist will be from the Tribe of Dan of the House of Israel.
I believe that the Tribe of Dan is the present country of Italy.
The false prophet might be a future Pope.

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Re: The Antichrist is from where
« Reply #28 on: Mon Jan 09, 2012 - 07:35:28 »
The antichrist is from where?
As Jacob predicted in Genesis 49, the antichrist will be from the Tribe of Dan of the House of Israel.
I believe that the Tribe of Dan is the present country of Italy.
The false prophet might be a future Pope.


The false prophet is correctly the POPE that will support the BEAST- GOG  neBUSHadnezzar when he returns in some months.

Dan is correctly connected to the Antichrist power.

"Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that bites the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward. I have waited for your salvation, O Lord." Genesis 49:16-18.

The horseman that the tribe of Dan will cause to fall backward in the last days is described in Revelation 6:2. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer

The first seal opened 911
when Antichrist revealed himself - conquering to conquer.

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http://britam.org/dan.html

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/america_babylon5.htm

Babylon the GREAT is this endtime power that will produce the BEAST.

All will soon see who this person will be - the world leader who the nations have to obey.the Straits

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/129677/pentagon-will-react-if-iran-closes-down-strait-of-hormuz.html

Pentagon "will React" If Iran Closes down Strait of Hormuz

Second seal will be opened when Iran bombs the USA in the straits of Hormuz.

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Re: The Antichrist is from where
« Reply #29 on: Mon Jan 09, 2012 - 09:54:14 »
Looks like a spam wizard is in the building

if you look through the post you will see LINKER fights with everyone
it's not just me but even MODS he will attack......

False pre trib teacher right here


You give linker scripture that says he's wrong and he won't quit

for instance his insistance that GOG and Satan are one and the same
and that gog and the antichrist are the same person also

I say Satan and gog aren't the same
the Antichrist and gog aren't the same either

so.... Let's look at something anyone can understand yet linker will still stick to his agenda even when it conflicts clearly and directly with scripture....

so.... Let's look at what SCRIPTURE says:

REV 20:7 Satan is loosened from his 1000 yr lock down (20:2)
20:8 Satan then goes out to the people of the world (which GOD calls GOG and magog) and what does Satan do? He decieved them! What does God call these people? GOG and Magog
so he can gather the people together to battle the saints camp

so let's see how this works....
I could say Satan goes out and decieves GOG, right.... Ofcourse true statement
I could say God calls the nations or people GOG, right.... Ofcourse true statement
I could say Satan IS GOG, right.... Ofcourse not false statement

but linker discards this statement.... Instead he uses a verse that only calls Gog the chief prince of 3 groups of peoples WHILE there are many others mentioned that GOG is NOT prince over..... In fact you could make the arguement that more are NOT under his control than ARE...

See the key to that is he is in charge of a country where these people will come out of who start the attack against Israel. And OTHER Islamic nations will follow in the attack and this is Gog. You know every islamic fighter would want to be there for the killing of Jews and taking it (land) back for Allah... But to cebate with LINKER when we clearly see the WORD OF GOD say Satan decieves Gog

unless Satan goes out to decievce himself..... So you can never get around someone who when scripture clearly says one thing and it conflicts and STILL they won't listen.... No one can tell a know it all.... It's like when Muslims got violent over cartoons yet kids can die and they don't say a word

you simply can't reason with such..... You fight with EVERYONE linker

YOU MAKE THE FORUM A DRAG!!!!!

ONE difference between us linker is when I found out the pre trib wasn't in the bible I CHANGED what I believed..... You won't do that...... Blah blah blah goes linkers replies... Blah 

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Re: The Antichrist is from where
« Reply #30 on: Mon Jan 09, 2012 - 10:59:12 »

ONE difference between us linker is when I found out the pre trib wasn't in the bible I CHANGED what I believed.....

Amen, KB!!

It is very difficult to change what one has been taught for many years, especially when all of your friends have believed the same thing.

Koodos!

Now, if we could just get you to reconsider your position that the end of the world does not refer to the planet but to the old covenant physical temple worship system, which, by the way, has come to an end...  ::smile::

Peace.

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Re: The Antichrist is from where
« Reply #31 on: Mon Jan 09, 2012 - 14:15:39 »

Amen, KB!!

It is very difficult to change what one has been taught for many years, especially when all of your friends have believed the same thing.


How true is that!?! When I went from the dispensational mindset to the preterist one I literally felt like I was in the twilight zone for a few days. A radical paradigm shift will do that to ya! But after the initial shock wore off everything I began reading started fitting together and making perfect sense within it's context. Pretty cool...

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Re: The Antichrist is from where
« Reply #32 on: Sun Aug 13, 2017 - 11:12:46 »
Hmmm....a whole lot of froth got churned up in this post that completely muddied the waters.

I'm amazed that not a single poster brought up the ONLY place that scripture refers to the Antichrist or antichrists.  I John and II John are the ONLY places in scripture that this exact term is mentioned.  Would it not make sense to go to that very text and rely on what John told us about this person or persons?! 

The question in the original post inquires about WHERE THE ANTICHRIST ORIGINATES FROM.  This is a slam-dunk in I John 2:17-19.  I'll use the Interlinear version, but the KJV also gives virtually the same amount of clarity.  "And the world is passing away, and the lust of it, but he that does the will of God abides forever.  Little children, [the] last hour it is, and according as ye heard that the antichrist is coming" (a single particular Antichrist individual), "even now" (as John was writing) "antichrists many have arisen," (the single Antichrist would be a particular one of many similar to him) "whence we know that [the] last hour it is.  FROM AMONG US THEY WENT OUT", (out from among those John was writing to; which was the brethren, the "little children" he was addressing) "but they were not of us;" (these antichrists weren't really believers to begin with)  "for if they were of us, they would have remained with us," (they would have remained among the believers) "but that they might be made manifest that are not all of us" (their leaving the assembly of believers showed them for what they all truly were to begin with - antichrists). 

Not sure how people can make this so complicated.  The one particular Antichrist as well as many other antichrists would arise from AMONG THOSE FIRST-CENTURY BELIEVERS JOHN WAS WRITING TO.  This eliminates a modern-day fulfillment.

John took the trouble in I John 2:22 and 4:3, as well as in II John verse 7, to clearly stipulate just what would characterize all those antichrists: "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?  He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."  And this: "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God, and this is that spirit of antichrist whereof ye have heard that it should come; and EVEN NOW" (as John wrote) "already is it in the world."  And this also: "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.  This is a deceiver and an antichrist."   

Anyone in John's days who would deny that Jesus had already arrived in the flesh, fulfilling the prophesied role of the Anointed One, (the Christ), was an antichrist.  This "Anointed One" was the very same one that Daniel 9:24, 25 promised would come at the beginning of the 70th week.  All in Israel who were paying attention to Daniel's prophecy at that time knew what that particular year was.  The Pharisees knew what that year was, because in John 1 they sent a delegation to John at that time, asking him if he was going to be that prophesied Christ who would come in the flesh.  The Samaritan Woman at the Well knew that the Messiah was coming, who was called Christ, and that he was expected to show up in her generation.  Indeed, ALL THE PEOPLE in Luke 3:15 were "in expectation" at that time, musing in their hearts whether John was actually the fulfillment of that Christ or not.

Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, was aware of the imminent fulfillment in those days of Daniel's 70th week prophecy, because in John 1:41, he told Simon, " 'We have found the Messias,'  which is, being interpreted, the Christ" or the Anointed One.   That year was AD 30, the beginning of that last 70th week of Daniel's prophecy which lasted until AD 37, and the switch of evangelistic emphasis over to the Gentiles. 

Those who denied that Jesus was the one who had come in the flesh in AD 30, fulfilling that Daniel 9:24-25 prophesy after He was anointed  - these deniers tried to provide a substitute Messiah to fulfill the conditions of that prophesy for the year AD 30, which they had to keep artificially shifting on the calendar, once that year had come and gone.  False Messiahs arose in those days, trying to claim that role (which they denied Jesus Christ had already fulfilled). Many False Prophets also arose.  As John 4:1 said, these false prophets had already "gone out into the world" in his time.  These all wanted to present themselves as close to that expected AD 30 date as possible, so that they could claim they were fulfilling the Daniel 9:24-25 prophecy which pointed to that year.

If anyone today tries to yank this Daniel 9:24-25 prophecy out of its intact, unbroken 70-week timeline that finished in AD 37, and attempts to apply it to today's time and our modern-day events, they are far off course.  This 70 week yardstick Daniel wrote down is not composed of elastic, or it would indeed be a meaningless prophecy.