I think most of us are familiar with these verses:
1Th 4:15 - For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] REMAIN
unto the coming of the Lord shall not PREVENT
them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 - For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a SHOUT
, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP
of God: and the dead in Christ shall RISE
1Th 4:17 - Then we which are alive [and] REMAIN
shall be CAUGHT UP
together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the AIR
: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
There seems to be disagreement about what it all means. I wanted to share a few notes on what some of these words mean in Greek and what questions and conclusions I'm led to.REMAIN
- The Greek word
carries a 2nd meaning of "survive." Considering the phrase here "Alive and Remain" this seems to be the meaning intended. So then the question is, "survive what?"PREVENT
- funny choice of word. The Greek actually means "to come before, precede." So it means the living will not go on to glory before the dead. I can only conclude that the time that the living are "caught up" is the same time that the dead are raised.SHOUT & TRUMP
- Strong's concordance gives the definition as:
1) an order, command, spec. a stimulating cry, either that by which animals are roused and urged on by man, as horses by charioteers, hounds by hunters, etc., or that by which a signal is given to men, e.g. to rowers by the master of a ship, to soldiers by a commander
This seems to be more than just a shout, it seems to be the command to "CHARGE!" Note also the TRUMP that comes at the same time is a universal military signal meaning charge. What is pictured seems to be an attack, or invasion. This does not seem to fit with the "thief in the night" description given elsewhere in Scripture.RISE
- For the longest time, I thought this mean that they would start floating or flying. Turns out, the word actually means "to stand up," especially in the sense of someone getting out of bed in the morning.CAUGHT UP
- Greek Harpazo
means "to seize, to carry away by force." Again, this seems violent, not secret.AIR
- The Greek word is Aer it just means air. Well sort of. Turns out the Greeks only used this word for the air here near to the ground. They called the air higher up in the atmosphere, and the void of space "aither" instead of air. It doesn't sound like it's talking about us flying away to the highest heaven. More of He's coming down to the lowest part.
There ya go,