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The Hidden and the Rapture
« on: Sun Jan 05, 2020 - 09:57:02 »
For almost 6,000 years, most of humanity knew almost nothing about how things really worked. The Lord has plans for us, that have been hidden from our understanding. What is the hidden wisdom?
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Re: The Hidden and the Rapture
« Reply #1 on: Fri Jan 10, 2020 - 10:56:32 »
For almost 6,000 years, most of humanity knew almost nothing about how things really worked. The Lord has plans for us, that have been hidden from our understanding. What is the hidden wisdom? https://raptureandendtimes.com/2020/01/04/the-hidden-and-the-rapture/

The RAPTURE is a doctrine of cowards and losers.

Based on about a half dozen verses this invention of a mid-19th century consort of witches (John Nelson Darby), denies the context (interrelated conditions of Holy Writ) of the entire rest of the Bible as well as the words of Jesus Christ.    (John 17:15)

At its core, the rapture is a delusion of American protestant evangelicals who are Biblically illiterate in the extreme.   Intent on digesting religious slogans and buzz words instead of the Big Picture as God paints it in the Bible, these sad folks would deny even the lord they claim to respect and worship.  The rapture dogma is accepted only in America by evangelical fanatics and in those nations infected by their rhetoric.  Churches in some nations, such as South Africa, have declared the doctrine to be unworthy of Christian attention and have banned references to it altogether.  Like hot dogs and apple pie, but less nutritious, the rapture is purely an American invention.   As dogma it leaves a lot to be desired.

As logic, nothing could be more juvenile.  There are at least three separate versions of the rapture.  Each claims divine authority to tell the fantasy as to when it will happen, to whom it will happen and blindly fills the holes in its assertions with science fiction fantasy the writers of Star Trek would envy.  Each has proponents who claim one cannot be a Christian unless this monstrous dogma is accepted as truth, which it most certainly is not.

At its core, the rapture is anti-semitic and then some.   According to its principles Jews won't be permitted to join the aerial ascendance of protestant Americans into the void where the angels will gather for a picnic (or a hallelujah chorus depending upon the version you accept).   Roman Catholics will be denied a flight plan as well.  Why?  They aren't American protestants that's why.  Orthodox Christians, of which there are millions of devoted members, will all be consigned to the hellish future that Rapture believers hope upon them. 

The hatred of Jews expressed in the Rapture continues in religious tripe that accompanies the jargon.   It's called the Tribulation and according to Rapture fans the hand of satan itself will descend upon God's chosen people so as to convince them to join the American Protestant church.   Its nothing less than a repackaged version of the holocaust.  Instead of Nazi Germans singing about Jewish blood flowing in the streets it's American pastors who declare it openly in their sermons with off-hand references during Sunday school sessions.

The Bible promises that God will comfort and be WITH His people during hard times.  It NEVER says God will evacuate them when things get dicey.   Some of the scriptures Rapture fans use to justify their Star Trek beam out may even be interpreted to suggest its the wicked that will be removed, not the just.   (Luke 17:34)   

Among the inane assertions of those who twist the gospel there are few to match those of the Rapture.   Those who mindlessly accept it as an axiom prove the accusation that American Protestants act as though stupidity was a virtue.

Indeed they do.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft.....

 

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Re: The Hidden and the Rapture
« Reply #2 on: Sat Jan 11, 2020 - 16:11:40 »
The RAPTURE is a doctrine of cowards and losers...

Such a sad belief. Where is the hope?

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Re: The Hidden and the Rapture
« Reply #3 on: Sun Jan 12, 2020 - 04:33:43 »
Among the inane assertions of those who twist the gospel there are few to match those of the Rapture.   
True indeed. Another one that comes close is Preterism.

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Re: The Hidden and the Rapture
« Reply #4 on: Mon Jan 13, 2020 - 18:26:25 »
The RAPTURE is a doctrine of cowards and losers...

Such a sad belief. Where is the hope?

Sorry that you don't feel "blessed" now and forever. 
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Re: The Hidden and the Rapture
« Reply #5 on: Tue Jan 14, 2020 - 09:11:31 »
The RAPTURE is a doctrine of cowards and losers.

Based on about a half dozen verses this invention of a mid-19th century consort of witches (John Nelson Darby), denies the context (interrelated conditions of Holy Writ) of the entire rest of the Bible as well as the words of Jesus Christ.    (John 17:15)

At its core, the rapture is a delusion of American protestant evangelicals who are Biblically illiterate in the extreme.   Intent on digesting religious slogans and buzz words instead of the Big Picture as God paints it in the Bible, these sad folks would deny even the lord they claim to respect and worship.  The rapture dogma is accepted only in America by evangelical fanatics and in those nations infected by their rhetoric.  Churches in some nations, such as South Africa, have declared the doctrine to be unworthy of Christian attention and have banned references to it altogether.  Like hot dogs and apple pie, but less nutritious, the rapture is purely an American invention.   As dogma it leaves a lot to be desired.

As logic, nothing could be more juvenile.  There are at least three separate versions of the rapture.  Each claims divine authority to tell the fantasy as to when it will happen, to whom it will happen and blindly fills the holes in its assertions with science fiction fantasy the writers of Star Trek would envy.  Each has proponents who claim one cannot be a Christian unless this monstrous dogma is accepted as truth, which it most certainly is not.



   

Well, I have a very good friend. Roman Catholic... so much so she will not permit her children to even date or go out with anyone who is not Roman Catholic... starting in high school.  So much so that all her spare time is working in her church and even counseling marrieds and those who would be... arranging dinners and such for the church as a whole... and teaching on abstinence . So much so that she and each of her first 8 (of 10) children every year would go on mission work to Haiti or some other needy country.... at their own expense. 

IOW... a very serious minded Roman Catholic . 

And this woman, who so loves every thing Roman Catholic and had a picture of Pope Frances in her kitchen is all to happy to sit and talk about her beliefs IN THE RAPTURE.  ::tippinghat::

But you say

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Based on about a half dozen verses this invention of a mid-19th century consort of witches (John Nelson Darby), denies the context (interrelated conditions of Holy Writ) of the entire rest of the Bible as well as the words of Jesus Christ.    (John 17:15)     

Half a dozen verses. The fact that there are a half dozen verses and not a single one should give pause at to what they truly mean.

There are 7 Baptisms mentioned in the bible.

1 Cor 10: 1-3 The Baptism of Moses

Mark 1:4 The Baptism of John

Mathew 3:13-17  The Baptism of Jesus

Mathew 3: 11-12 The Baptism of fire

Ephesians 1:13–14; 1 Corinthians 12:13  The Baptism of the Holy Spirit

Mark 10:35–39 ; esp v 38  The Baptism of the cross

Matthew 28:19 The Baptism of believers.

Seven variations on the same theme. Yet YOU know as well as I do the heated discussions on here from those who hang their hats on because of  single verse... Mark 16:16 and they twist all other discussions on "baptism" to this one, regardless of the context that the others are referencing.

And because most Roman Catholics and Presbyterians do not immerse, as there is not one place in the Holy Bible that mentions anything other then immersion. And because Roman Catholics and Presbyterians Baptiste babies we are not Baptized therefore not saved.

But this is not about baptism.

You have drawn your conclusions on The Rapture based on what you understand. NOT based on anything you can prove.

Is it real???   I sure hope so but If not I do not care.

YOU also said.

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       The RAPTURE is a doctrine of cowards and losers.   

Well, I can assure you there are 4 or 5 "protestants" on here that already think that of me. I shall add you to the list  ::tippinghat::