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Offline massorite

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Re: Rev.13:8, the saints.
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2012, 06:14:10 AM »
It happens sometime during the tribulation and the saints are all saints who will be living during the tribulation when it gets here.

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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2012, 08:59:08 PM »

Rev.13:8, "All" who dwell upon the earth shall worship him (the beast." 
Note "all," Ver.7, The beast has power over "ALL," kindreds, and tongues, and nations."

How do you fit the saints into that mess?


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Now we're on to something. Those "All" who worship the antichrist are not believers. Their names are not written in the Lamb's book of life; the two witnesses are believers. These events occur during the antichrist's reign told us in Daniel 12:7 which will be for a time, times, and a half, or forty-two months, and then all these things shall be finished.

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Re: Rev.13:8, the saints.
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2012, 02:56:00 PM »
The following verse is widly used among the mid, and post tribulation people to prove their thinking.

Rev.13:8, "And it was given unto him (a beast who came out of the sea,) to make war with the saints, and to overcome them."

When do you think this happened? Is it before, the middle, or end of the tribulation; and who do you believe the saints are?

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During the dark ages.  The price of darkness ruled for 1,000 years.

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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2012, 09:28:02 PM »
Rev 11:3  And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4  These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.


Some say these are more than two people. Some seperate olive trees and two candlesticks saying they are the church (two candlesticks) and Israel (two olive trees)
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Verse 10 makes it clear that these two witnesses, two olive trees, two candle sticks are two pophets.

Rev_11:10  And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

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Re: Rev.13:8, the saints.
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2012, 09:31:30 PM »
The following verse is widly used among the mid, and post tribulation people to prove their thinking.

Rev.13:8, "And it was given unto him (a beast who came out of the sea,) to make war with the saints, and to overcome them."

When do you think this happened? Is it before, the middle, or end of the tribulation; and who do you believe the saints are?

Phil LaSpino


During the dark ages.  The price of darkness ruled for 1,000 years.

Peace
There is no thousand year rule of the prince of darkness told of in the Bible.
There is a thousand year rule of Christ and His saints though, soon coming I believe.

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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2012, 10:09:17 AM »
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.Rev 14:12 (KJV)

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Rev 12:17 (KJV)


The saints are those who keep the commandments of God, and have the faith and testimony of Jesus Christ.