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This generation
« on: Thu Oct 12, 2017 - 07:30:19 »
This Generation:

At the Mt. of Olives, Jesus goes on to describe all future events before He sets up His 1000 Year reign. He said in Matt.24:34, “This generation (the generation that sees all the events he spoke of) shall not pass, till all these things are fulfilled.”

So, the first question the disciples asked was literally fulfilled in 70 A.D., but the answer to the other two questions remained unknown. So, is it reasonable that the generation of 1948 be the generation Jesus was speaking of?

Question; what do the Jews consider a generation?

There are three schools of thought concerning this matter. One hundred years; Seventy years, and forty years. Seventy appears to be the answer,

Ps.90:10, “The days of our years are threescore years and ten (70).” Also, if we were to add 100 - 40 – and 70 we still have 70.

What generation was Christ speaking of, could it have been the generation we now live in? The nation of Israel and the Jewish people are the key. When they became a nation in one day on May 14, 1948, it marked the first day of their 1st birthday. The 1st year ended May 13 1949; so we can say they were 1 year old, therefore, the end of their 70th anniversary will be May 13th 2019. Oh, by the way, according to the world censes, there will be 14,400,000 Jews in the world by the end of the year 2019. One tenth, a small remnant comes to 144,000, maybe a coincidence, hmmm, maybe not!

I would like you to remember this year, 2019 as well as the year 2026 in all my future posts. I will show how both agrees with many other end time prophesies that concern major historical events that have touched the Jews, the land of Israel, and the Christian Church.

The number seventy has a sacred meaning, it is made up of the factors of two perfect numbers, seven representing perfection, and ten representing completeness and God’s law.

After 70 years God’s promise of the Jewish return will have been carried out to perfection. Ancient Israel had spent 70 years in captivity in Babylon, Jer.29:10. The number 70 is also tied to Jerusalem. The city kept 70 years of Sabbaths while Judah was in Babylonian captivity Jer.25:11.

Seventy sevens (490) years were determined upon Jerusalem for it to complete its transgressions, to make an end for sins (still future) and for everlasting righteousness (still future).

Up to this day, concerning Dan.9:24. 483 years have been completed this when the Messiah was cut off. So, this prophesy has 7 years remaining for its completion; that last 7 years should and would represent the 7 years of tribulation for the Jews. 

My understanding is May 13 1949 marked the beginning of the 1st full generation that will see all the events leading up to the second coming of Christ. This thinking is also based upon the generation alluded to in the parable of the fig tree, in which the fig tree is symbolic of the nation of Israel.

In Ezekiel’s prophesy of the valley of dry bones we read, “I (God) will --- bring up flesh upon you (physically and spiritually dead Israel), and cover you with skin ---.” Then the Lord will lay skin upon their dry bones and sinew. The skin put upon the bones is next to the last step of the Jewish revival before the Lord puts his Spirit in them.

The flesh of men is the largest organ of the integumentary system. It has seven layers of ectodermal (outer) tissue and guards the underlying muscles, bones, ligaments and internal organs. Man’s skin would represent the condition of Israel today; it protects the body (this by the Holy Spirit) it insulates, regulates temperature, synthesis of vitamin D, and the protection of vitamin B. The outer skin contains no blood vessels and cells in the deepest layers are nourished almost exclusively by diffused oxygen from the surrounding air. What Israel needs to do is to cry out to the Lord Jesus Christ; then He will breath the breath of life into their flesh, then will He be there King and High Priest.

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This generation
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Re: This generation
« Reply #1 on: Thu Oct 12, 2017 - 07:49:56 »
Personally I find it would be a bit strange that God took 4000+ years after Adam to bring salvation to the world only to have Him end the world in 2000+ years.  I understand there is nothing really in the Scriptures to support my thinking on this, but that is what I think.  I also think the significant point of God's revelation concerning the end time is that for each of us the end time really comes at our death which is certainly in "This Generation". 

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« Reply #2 on: Thu Oct 12, 2017 - 10:09:25 »
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Thanks for your thoughts: I never felt that God was on a clock himself, but I do know because of end time prophesy that man is, as well as the devil. It's been published in the ancient books for some 3500 years now. The calamities that have befallen the Jewish people in the past 2000 have no parallel. Let's begin with,

Ez.36:18-19, these are prophesies concerning future events for the Jews. Now Ezekiel wrote between 597 and 571 B.C. while in captivity to the Jews. The Temple had been destroyed, and many (not all) Jews had been scattered.
 
"I (God) poured my fury upon them (Jews) for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols (the temple, the ceremonies, the priests, the law) wherewith they had polluted it: I (God) scattered them (the Jews) among the heathen (Gentiles), and they were dispersed through the (Gentile) countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them."

This book is over 3000 years old. Deut.30:4-5, A prophecy for the Jews, "If any of thine (the Jews) be driven out (from their land) from thence (from where they had been driven) will the LORD thy God gather them, and from thence (there) will He fetch them: And the LORD thy God will bring them (the Jews) into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it (Israel); and He will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers."

Ez.37:21-28, "Thus saith the LORD God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen (Gentile) whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land (Israel in 1948): I will make them one nation (we call it Israel today) they all shall have one shepherd (future prophesy of Christ’s return) they shall also walk in my (God’s) judgments, and observe my statutes ... I (God) will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant ... And the nations shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore." That sanctuary is Jesus Himself.

This book is 2700 years old. Isa.11:10-16, It shall come to pass, the Lord, "shall set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant of His people, which shall be left ... and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."

This book is over 2700 years old. Amos 9:14-15, "I = (God) will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them ...And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God."

On May 13, 1948 God began to gather the Jews from the 4 corners of the world as promised. When communism was defeated in the early 90es, more than 2 million Jews fled Russia and returned to Israel. There is not a nation in the world were you will not find evidence of the Jewish people.

This dispersion of the Jews began after Titus destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 A.D. Over 1 million Jews were murdered and 70.000 taken into captivity. Some 1900 years have passed before 1948. Today there are about 7 million Jews in Israel. What lay waste for 1900 years is now a productive nation. Israel today grows over 90% of it's own food.

I guess I have gotten off subject, but Hosea 6:2 and 2 Pet.3:5 make reference to time concerning God, "Be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day (man's 24 hour period) is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years (to us) as one day (to God.)" In other words time for God is not relevant, but as for man, "were on the clock."

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Re: This generation
« Reply #3 on: Thu Oct 12, 2017 - 10:24:12 »
All of that is well and good, but I think what you need to understand is that the era of special consideration for national Israel ended about 2000 years ago.  In fact national Israel ended with the carrying off and the dissolution of the ten northern tribes.  They are lost and lost forever.  There were of course some individuals who were saved but the nation as a whole was gone never to return.  What exists now as "Israel" has nothing to do with God's chosen people.  God's chosen people are spiritual Israel, the church, the body of Christ.  That does not and will not change.

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« Reply #4 on: Thu Oct 12, 2017 - 11:43:19 »
4WD, sorry you believe that. If what you say is true, then what you're basically saying is, God was not/ and is not able or capable of keeping his promises to Abraham, David, and the Jews themselves.

Example, both sides of my family were born in Italy, my mother and Father were born here. I was the 2ed generation, and my kids the third generation, and their kids the 4th generation. Now all my son and daughter in laws are Italian as were their families. Now would you say, I am not Italian and my great grandkids are not Italian's because we have been in America for the past 3 generations?
 
Ask yourself, what is a Jew? When the 10 Northern tribes went to war with the two Southern tribes the North had over 1 million men, the South 300,000. Naturally the North prevailed. The second time they went to war, they had equal numbers, and the last time the South had over a million and the North a small remnant. Why? Because in that period of war, many in the 10 Northern tribes migrated South, after all they had the temple in Jerusalem, and a better civil and religious structure set up. In other words, all 12 tribes were represented in Judea, the South. Also, only 24 or 25 thousand Jews out of probably at that time 3 or 4 million were taken into slavery by the Assyrian's in 721 B.C.

Point two, For the past 2000 years, their enemies always knew were to find them, the Popes of Rome, the Muslims, the Ottoman, Stalin, Hitler, and today every Arab in the world knows where to find them. The Christian church knows who they are and for what purpose they have been preserved by God.

The Jews never, ever completely mixed with the people of the many different nations they had been scattered to, their places of worship have been found recently in the farthest North of Russia. In the past 69 years, they have by the will and authority of God migrated back to their homeland as promised by God, thus fulfilling God's promises.

As for me, I will never say that God is/was not capable or able to keep his promises to Abraham and David, etc. I'm absolutely sure, he has saved for himself this people in order to fulfill his will.

Deut.30:4-5, "If any of thine (the Jews) be driven out (from their land 70 A.D.) from there will the LORD thy God gather them, and from there (these foreign Gentile countries) will He (God) fetch (gather) them (the Jews): And the LORD thy God will bring thee (the Jews) into the land which thy fathers Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David etc.) possessed, and you (the Jews) shall possess it (the land of Israel); and He (God) will do you good, and multiply you above your fathers."

Amos 9:14-15, "I = (God) will bring again the captivity of my people (the Jews) of Israel, and they (the Jews) shall build the waste (desolate) cities, and inhabit them ...And I will plant them upon their land (Israel), and they shall no more (never) be pulled up out (taken out) of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God."

Joel 3:1-7-20, "Behold, in those (last) days, and in that time, when I (God) shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem ... I will raise them out of the place (gentile countries) whither ye have sold them ... Judah (Israel) shall dwell forever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation."

For over 1900 years, the land lay desolate, just as God said it would, and since the Jews have moved back, it flourishes like never before, just as God promised.

Samuel Clemens, better known as Mark Twain, traveled in the ancient land of Israel around the time of our Civil War, 1865. He wrote a book called Innocence Abroad. In that book he gave this graphic description of the land of Israel in 1865. 

He write, “The land is a total desolation.  Not even the weeds of the desert will grow here.  We traveled mile after mile and never saw another human being.  The further we went toward Jerusalem the hotter the sun got.  By the time we got to Jerusalem,...” he wrote, “...I would not want to live here.” Israel was out in the dispersion for 1900 years, and the land lay wasted. Other travelers have used the term “Godforsaken” in their description of Israel under the Arabs; that is until the Jews became a nation in one day, May 13, 1948.
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« Reply #5 on: Thu Oct 12, 2017 - 14:32:07 »
This Generation
Greetings Phil, I will read your post very carefully again in the morning and then you and I can talk more, which I trust we can and we will.

I have a letter of fifty pages that I wrote to a minister dealing exclusively with the subject "THIS generation" and its biblical sense used ALL throughout God's word. A subject that I have pondered many times over. 

I will first consider your understanding and give a few comments and then I will give my understanding and allow you to give your thoughts. I trust we can agree on one truth and it is this: The word of God IS its own intrepreter, and all men must come and agree with God's word, or their doctrine is to be rejected as false. I'm resting for the rest of the afternoon and will be at it around 4:00 A.M (God willing) which is when my mind is the sharpest and I have no distractions. RB

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« Reply #6 on: Thu Oct 12, 2017 - 14:37:11 »
4WD, sorry you believe that. If what you say is true, then what you're basically saying is, God was not/ and is not able or capable of keeping his promises to Abraham, David, and the Jews themselves.
The ninth chapter of Romans is a direct rebuttal to your viewpoint on this matter.  You are thinking just like the Jews that Paul was confronting.  Read it again, this time knowing the subject line that Paul is presenting.



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« Reply #7 on: Thu Oct 12, 2017 - 14:51:53 »
He said in Matt.24:34, “This generation (the generation that sees all the events he spoke of) shall not pass, till all these things are fulfilled.”
Brother, you are assuming something that the scriptures is not saying.

Jesus had just given warnings concerning "events" that shall come to pass before his second coming, events that he added to moving forward and right on into chapter twenty-five. He clearly described a multitudes of evil and wicked people that shall YET COME, people that he called a generation as the word is used MOST of the time by David, John the Baptist, and Jesus himself. Consider Matthew 23~
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Matthew 23:13-36~"But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor! Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold? And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty. Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift? Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon. And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein. And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation."
This generation are the PEOPLE he just pronounced woes upon, the very SAME generation that have always killed God's prophets and his children, the very ones that killed Zachariah, the children of the WICKED ONE.

I'll stop and do as I said that I would.

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« Reply #8 on: Thu Oct 12, 2017 - 17:14:58 »
RB, thanks for your comments.
The context of what verse 34 lies in verses 29 to 33. Immediately after the tribulation" "The Son of man coming in the clouds" "He shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet and gather together his elect" and it goes on." To my knowledge these events have yet happened. "When you see ALL these things, know that it is near, even at the door."  "This generation that witnesses all these events shall not pass, till ALL these things be fulfilled." I understand what occurred in 70 A.D. is just a shadow of what lies ahead for the nation of Israel, and the unbelieving Gentile world. 

Also, God's woes on the nation began some 600 years before Christ's birth, look up woes in Ezekiel, Hosea etc.
No disrespect, but what I hope to find on this site are people who are open mined enough to discuss a series of events that I believe will lead to particular end time dates.

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« Reply #9 on: Thu Oct 12, 2017 - 18:05:55 »
I just went to the internet to gather more information concerning a place and people that some claim don't exist today because they were lost 2000 years ago. The world census now, today estimates that there are 8,300,000 Jews living in Israel. The Orthodox Jews in Israel live under the law just as they have for 3500 years. They reject Jesus as did the elite 2000 years ago. If these are not Jews, then who or what are they?

The U.N. in past years has passed 226 resolutions against Israel and its people. The Arabs teach their population that the Jews are evil and must all be killed. When I look at a world map I can see that Israel exists. I don't understand how anyone can say Israel and its people have vanished, disappeared, don't exist. Explain to me where this lack of common sense came from and where it's going. My family for the most part have turned Jehovah Witnesses. They can't be reasoned with on this issue, because they believe a lie, and it breaks my heart.
This will be my last reply to anyone who claims Israel and the Jews don't exist. Can't discuss the subject with those who hold to this reasoning. Thanks!

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AD 70 was a type

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« Reply #11 on: Fri Oct 13, 2017 - 04:13:04 »
This will be my last reply to anyone who claims Israel and the Jews don't exist. Can't discuss the subject with those who hold to this reasoning. Thanks!
Greetings Phil~I most likely stand in between you and my good friend 4WD. His point is well made, one that I have heard many times before and of course, yours as well, I have heard the most. I'm somewhere in the middle of this discussion and a discussion which will stop with this post, so we can move forward.

The nation of Israel in the OT was severely mixed, just read Nehemiah and Ezra. Now, even though they were, I do still believe that there are some who truly can trace their genealogy which is proven by reading some NT scriptures, where Jesus' is carefully layout, and others as well, and even John the Baptist's parents, Anna, Simeon in the temple, and Paul all knew their tribe from whence they came. So, I'm with both of you two, maybe more so with you that there are true Jews still living in Israel, even though I DO NOT think for a minute that most are, but the ones that are there and around the world GOD'S KNOWS. But, there are NO special promises to them OUTSIDE of Jesus Christ and APART from the NT church and THIS PRESENT dispensation which will end at the coming of Jesus Christ at the last day. But, we can consider this later.

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« Reply #12 on: Fri Oct 13, 2017 - 04:58:08 »
RB, thanks for your comments.
My dear brother, I THANK YOU for your desire to still speak on behalf of the word of God at your age, my God be praised.
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The context of what verse 34 lies in verses 29 to 33. Immediately after the tribulation" "The Son of man coming in the clouds" "He shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet and gather together his elect" and it goes on."
Brother that's the KEY that unlocks Matthew 24:34. Brother, CONTEXT is King and Master of understanding what we are reading, hearing so that we can understand what is being said to us. A rule that I live by is this: Interpretations must agree with their context.

A law to remember: A text used out of context is a pretext. We must not violate it; We should learn to spot it.

A text is a word, clause, verse, paragraph, chapter, or book we are seeking to interpret. Context is the surrounding information, which shows the author's meaning by the text. So,  out of context is using words and their sound contrary to the surrounding information.

A pretext is a false and incorrect impression designed to hide or disguise the real intent. Using a verse contrary to its context gives a misleading and deceitful sound of words to teach something the author did not intend and/or is not true. We must hate and reject this abuse of words!

Phil, you have had your words used out of context before? I'm sure you have as most of us have, and we hated the corruption of our intent and meaning. We must make sure we never do it with the precious Word of God.

This rule applies to all writings and conversations of every sort, and so context is well understood by most people. Contracts, court records, novels, promises, and poetry are all understood in context, or surrounding information, to truly understand their meaning.

Even single words are meaningless without a context, which is why we asked our teacher to use them in a sentence before we would try to spell them in a spelling bee!

And even if we use a verse to teach a true point, we must make sure we ALWAYS still honor its context. For using the wrong verse to teach the right point is the first subtle step to heresy. We should remember that and Mark it!

So, back to your wise comment...
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The context of what verse 34 lies in
You said 29-33 of Matthew 24, well the truth is that it starts way before that my brother, and UNLESS we start there we will not understand the biblical sense of "THIS generation", but will allow our hearts to deceive us unless we follow the CONTEXT of Matthew 24 carefully. Let us see what the CONTEXT  of Jesus' last warning to his disciples and TO US through them.
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Matthew 24:3-25~"And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before."
I'm coming back very soon to give some comments on these scriptures that should guide us in understanding Matthew 24:34. I will say one thing before stopping~These scriptures have NOT one thing to say about 70 A.D. either pertaining to it, or even as a type of it! Both are from the vain imagination of man. Jesus did not have one thought on his mind concerning 70 A.D. Again we shall see that context is KING and the precious word of God IS its own interpreter and does not need Josephus, or Tim LaHaye, or even you and me! Our job is to see What God's testimony concerning end time events IS saying to us.

Later on Matthew 24:3-25~RB
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« Reply #13 on: Fri Oct 13, 2017 - 09:18:39 »
RB: I've been over this road many times. Certain people and certain religions believe God is done with the nation of Israel and its people, and that the 10 Northern tribes were lost while in Assyrian captivity, or after the Roman invasion of 70 A.D., and I respect that, BUT, I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can draw that conclusion, when the obvious lives and breaths before your very eyes now, today! Why do I say that?

1. Israel exists today as a nation fulfilling God's O.T. promises that they would become a nation in "one day."

2. If those who live in Israel today are not Jews, then who are they? or better what nationality would you say they are?

3. Why would non Jewish people in 1948 rename Palestine ---- Israel?

4. If the Orthodox Jews who exist in Israel and throughout the rest of the world were told "You're not a Jew, why pretend you are?"  Then asked, "why do you pray to the O.T. God called Jehovah? Why do you keep the Jewish Holy Days? Why is your name Levi, Benjamin, Rothstein etc.? why do you circumcise your children? you guys were all wiped out in the Roman invasion, hasn't anyone ever told you that?

See what I mean, non of what you say makes any sense concerning "lost tribes, or God is done with the Jews!"
This is my last comment on the subject.
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« Reply #14 on: Fri Oct 13, 2017 - 09:31:05 »
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But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but "Through Isaac shall your offspring be named." This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring (Rom 9:6-8).

 

     
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