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It is a sign. And it has the sun the moon and the stars in it.

If you haven't seen it, it's all over Youtube.


"Luke 21:25  And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
...27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Best to leave on a positive note.   ::pray::

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« Reply #1 on: Sun Jul 23, 2017 - 14:55:40 »
It is a sign. And it has the sun the moon and the stars in it.

If you haven't seen it, it's all over Youtube.


"Luke 21:25  And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
...27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Best to leave on a positive note.   ::pray::

Please provide a link.

I have not seen what you have referenced, though am watchful for Sept.23.

Just remember " no man know the day or hour. " Matt 24:36


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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #2 on: Sun Jul 23, 2017 - 16:58:35 »
It is a sign. And it has the sun the moon and the stars in it.

If you haven't seen it, it's all over Youtube.


"Luke 21:25  And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
...27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Best to leave on a positive note.   ::pray::

Uh, the sun is in the constellation Virgo EVERY year.

A true yawner.

Nothing will happen, at all, on September 23rd except 7.5 billion people going about their normal lives.


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Catholics claim it is mary, but this is false.

The woman in revelation is a picture of the Israelite nation as shown in Gen37:9,10 with the sun representing Jacob, the moon his wife Rachel, and the 12 stars representing the tribes of Israel. Christ was born of Israel. The Israelite nation is often referred to as a woman in Isaiah54:5 and Jeremiah31:32.This woman cannot be mary because the woman IS ON EARTH DURING THE TRIBULATION, whereas mary's spirit is in heaven at that time.

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #5 on: Mon Jul 24, 2017 - 00:48:53 »
Catholics claim it is mary, but this is false.

The woman in revelation is a picture of the Israelite nation as shown in Gen37:9,10 with the sun representing Jacob, the moon his wife Rachel, and the 12 stars representing the tribes of Israel. Christ was born of Israel. The Israelite nation is often referred to as a woman in Isaiah54:5 and Jeremiah31:32.This woman cannot be mary because the woman IS ON EARTH DURING THE TRIBULATION, whereas mary's spirit is in heaven at that time.

The woman in Revelation 12:1 is actually the biological mother of one of the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11:3 and she is alive today and is age 84 at this time, in my opinion.


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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #6 on: Mon Jul 24, 2017 - 04:31:14 »
The woman in Revelation 12:1 is actually the biological mother of one of the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11:3 and she is alive today and is age 84 at this time, in my opinion.
 

Would that be your mother???

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« Reply #7 on: Mon Jul 24, 2017 - 05:19:05 »
The woman in Revelation 12:1 is actually the biological mother of one of the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11:3 and she is alive today and is age 84 at this time, in my opinion.

And where did you get this opinion from?

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #9 on: Mon Jul 24, 2017 - 08:27:39 »
And where did you get this opinion from?

It is from the result of a genuine religious experience that is rooted in reality that I had primarily between 1988 - 1993. One insight that I would gain along the way is that when one has had what they believe to be a genuine religious experience that they are certain is rooted in reality, it is generally impossible to successfully convey it to others, though I have had some successes with total strangers between 1994 - 1998.

When Jesus was brought before the Sanhedrin to be tried and asked by them if He was the Messiah, He probably knew that He could try to walk the members of the Sanhedrin through the Messianic prophecies in the Jewish Holy Book that He noticed that He was precisely fulfilling since His birth, but He knew that it would only fall on deaf ears as most of the members of the Sanhedrin were only interested in killing Him.

So, when Jesus was asked by the chief priest in the Sanhedrin if, in fact, He was the Messiah, Jesus merely replied, "I am."

P.S. As I have pointed out numerous times, it gets back to Christ's instructions to His apostles recorded in Luke 21:25a & Matthew 24:29-30a AND winning the luck of the draw to live at just the right time.
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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #10 on: Mon Jul 24, 2017 - 09:07:17 »
RB,

I can't disagree with the summation:

"The overview of Revelation Chapter 12 is of the Church Israel as Christ comes and delivers her to the assault on her by Satan and his minions. She is typed as a woman bringing to birth and fed in the wilderness while the time of her testimony is nigh. It starts from before the cross, illustrates the birth of her deliverer, his work, the wilderness journey, to Satan's final attempt to conquer the remnant of her seed. It's a symbolical picture of the New Covenant with Israel confirmed by Jesus Christ".

Nor can I disagree that it is about Satan attempting throughout the generations to conquer the Jews and Christians.  If it is over generations starting  before the birth of Christ, why the 1260 days?  Shouldn't that be more like 2000 years?"

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #11 on: Mon Jul 24, 2017 - 09:40:42 »
Chosenone,

Can I have a witness?   Amen?

I agree.   Remember that little song from Sunday School, "This little light f mine, I'm gonna let it shine, let it shine, let it shine, let it shine."

 ::amen!::

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #12 on: Mon Jul 24, 2017 - 11:44:54 »
 

Would that be your mother???

Chosenone, I guess that you asked me a direct question here.

And my answer is, unequivocally, "Yes."

(As I have mentioned in my previous posts, I would determine, by the year 1993, that the only meaningful prophecies in the Book of Revelation are Revelation 11:3 & Revelation 12:5.)
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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #13 on: Mon Jul 24, 2017 - 12:52:04 »
Chosenone, I guess that you asked me a direct question here.

And my answer is, unequivocally, "Yes."

(As I have mentioned in my previous posts, I would determine, by the year 1993, that the only meaningful prophecies in the Book of Revelation are Revelation 11:3 & Revelation 12:5.)

My previous posts have mentioned that you are full of it.

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #14 on: Mon Jul 24, 2017 - 14:10:13 »
My previous posts have mentioned that you are full of it.

Yes, T.C., you have been just as consistently incorrect as the chief priest of the Sanhedrin who rejected Christ. Fortunately for me, God has given me adequately broad shoulders to have a small smile on my face with regards to non-astronomer detractors such as yourself.

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #15 on: Mon Jul 24, 2017 - 16:43:40 »
tex,
My mother was a witness too, by the life she led.
Hopefully, my life will be the same in my children's eyes.

The woman is giving birth to one planet, Jupiter, the King planet, which gestates in her celestial womb for 9 1/2 months as it travels in retrograde before moving out of Virgo on Sept. 23rd., on the Feast of Trumpets.  Pretty remarkable I'd say.  She's clothed in the sun because we won't be able to see the stars, however, a sliver of the moon will be at her feet.  The reason she has 12 stars, unlike the usual 9 stars above her head, is because there are three other planets lining up above her left shoulder.  This particular configuration has not happened in 7000 years.  There are variations, but not like this one.

I think we should just take note and keep watching to see what happens.  There's also a solar eclipse that you probably aren't interested in either.  That's on August 21st.  They are holding their breath out there in Yellowstone.

Did you watch the link from youtube? 

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #16 on: Wed Jul 26, 2017 - 10:55:49 »
tex,
My mother was a witness too, by the life she led.
Hopefully, my life will be the same in my children's eyes.

The woman is giving birth to one planet, Jupiter, the King planet, which gestates in her celestial womb for 9 1/2 months as it travels in retrograde before moving out of Virgo on Sept. 23rd., on the Feast of Trumpets.  Pretty remarkable I'd say.  She's clothed in the sun because we won't be able to see the stars, however, a sliver of the moon will be at her feet.  The reason she has 12 stars, unlike the usual 9 stars above her head, is because there are three other planets lining up above her left shoulder.  This particular configuration has not happened in 7000 years.  There are variations, but not like this one.

I think we should just take note and keep watching to see what happens.  There's also a solar eclipse that you probably aren't interested in either.  That's on August 21st.  They are holding their breath out there in Yellowstone.

Did you watch the link from youtube?

Rainbow, cutting through the clutter of your message here, what do YOU think will happen on September 23, 2017?

Anything, at all?

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #17 on: Wed Jul 26, 2017 - 16:38:35 »
Rainbow, cutting through the clutter of your message here, what do YOU think will happen on September 23, 2017?

Anything, at all?

Heyyyy, what clutter?

 I think we should just take note and keep watching to see what happens.  There's also a solar eclipse.  They are holding their breath out there in Yellowstone.  That's on August 21st. 

The Bible says watch.  There is still a stone made without hands on the agenda.  There's still the beast gathering the nations for Armageddon.  There's still a time when there will be an unequaled earthquake combined with burning rocks falling out of the sky.  And there is still a rebuilding and peace for a thousand years.  Seems like a legitimate sign on Feast of Trumpets.  But I'm not a fortune teller.   ::shrug::

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #18 on: Wed Jul 26, 2017 - 17:02:25 »
Heyyyy, what clutter?

 I think we should just take note and keep watching to see what happens.  There's also a solar eclipse.  They are holding their breath out there in Yellowstone.  That's on August 21st. 

The Bible says watch.  There is still a stone made without hands on the agenda.  There's still the beast gathering the nations for Armageddon.  There's still a time when there will be an unequaled earthquake combined with burning rocks falling out of the sky.  And there is still a rebuilding and peace for a thousand years.  Seems like a legitimate sign on Feast of Trumpets.  But I'm not a fortune teller.   ::shrug::

Rainbow, your posts are full of the same generalities that have made people like Hal Lindsey, Grant Jeffrey (now deceased), the van Impes, Perry Stone, Tim LaHaye (now deceased), and all of the many other popularizers of the Antichrist, Armageddon, Rapture, Seven Years of Tribulation, Mark of the Beast, etc., etc., etc. scenario myth very wealthy people. And when their predictions never come to pass, they are never held accountable and yet they sit on a lot of cash in their bank accounts from the sales of their books and videos.

It is a very nice cottage industry that they were very fortunate to tap into and benefit from. And Christians part ways with their hard-earned dollars when they buy these books and videos that speak of things that will never come to pass. Except for Christ's return to earth, which will happen. Christ will return to a very ordinary world going through it typical ups and downs and it will shock many, many unsuspecting people, I am sure.

The only difference between you and them is that your financial situation doesn't change.

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #19 on: Thu Jul 27, 2017 - 08:28:24 »
Thank you, Star of David.  I think.

If I say something that doesn't line up with your interpretation of the Bible, be sure to speak up.

Yes, I do this for free, and I don't get my interpretations from other people.
No, that is not entirely true.  I have learned a lot from Walid Shoebat, and Ellis Skolfield.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

Walid Shoebat understands Islamic culture. I agree with his understanding of Islam in the Bible.
Ellis Skolfield understands numbers and history. I agree with his timeline.

We should probably give the old guys credit for their contribution to understanding prophecy.  Afterall, we can see more clearly through that dark glass, because the time is getting closer.

"Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."


Everybody will see him.  Will we be expecting him is the question?

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #20 on: Mon Aug 07, 2017 - 13:18:17 »
Thank you, Star of David.  I think.

If I say something that doesn't line up with your interpretation of the Bible, be sure to speak up.

Yes, I do this for free, and I don't get my interpretations from other people.
No, that is not entirely true.  I have learned a lot from Walid Shoebat, and Ellis Skolfield.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

Walid Shoebat understands Islamic culture. I agree with his understanding of Islam in the Bible.
Ellis Skolfield understands numbers and history. I agree with his timeline.

We should probably give the old guys credit for their contribution to understanding prophecy.  Afterall, we can see more clearly through that dark glass, because the time is getting closer.

"Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."


Everybody will see him.  Will we be expecting him is the question?


Extremely few Christians will be expecting Christ when He returns, Rainbow, because the Christian masses have been conditioned to believe that there will be this Antichrist, Armageddon, Seven Years of Tribulation, Rapture, Mark of the Beast, etc., etc., etc. scenario that will precede His return which shall not happen.

As Jesus told His apostles, His coming will be like a thief in the night.


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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #21 on: Thu Aug 10, 2017 - 15:20:03 »
It is from the result of a genuine religious experience that is rooted in reality that I had primarily between 1988 - 1993.
LOL, there must have been a LOT of spiritual things going on in that time frame. 

Personally I was in a conflict with the girl being raised up as the next worldwide high priestess of Ashtoreth during that time period.  I got to see Yah (God) tear down and destroy her entire empire with them all in prison or dead.  I was blessed to even survive that period.

That same time period is when the most amazing things happened during my life as well.

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #22 on: Thu Aug 10, 2017 - 21:40:27 »
It is a sign. And it has the sun the moon and the stars in it.

If you haven't seen it, it's all over Youtube.


"Luke 21:25  And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
...27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Best to leave on a positive note.   ::pray::

"As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?""
(Mathew 24:3)

His final answer:
"Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:"
(Mathew 24:32)

A feasible interpretation:
Keep your eyes on the apparently dead nation of Israel.  When you see it come back to life, you will know the end is near.

How near?

"This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
(Mathew 24:34)

What generation?

I'd say, it'd have to be a generation that was present on earth when life was restored to the formerly and apparently dead nation of Israel.

When could that generation have begun? and how long is a generation?

I'd say, at the latest, that generation would have to have begun sometime around if not exactly in 1948, when Israel once again became a nation.  And I'd say that a generation of people on average lives about 70 years?  Do some math.



I hope we're not all looking for a sign that the end is near.  That ought to be apparent to all of us already. 
We ought rather have immediate concern that our lamps are full right now. 


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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #23 on: Fri Aug 11, 2017 - 08:47:03 »
Hi Sonofason,

re: looking for a sign. 
"Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."  Rev. 3:3

as an aside, The Jews call the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles the day no one knows, because the watchmen would sit up all night looking to see if the moon appeared.  If any of them fell asleep on the job, a priest would set their clothes on fire and they would go home naked and ashamed.

I think you hit the generation right on the head.

As for seeing the signs:

Luke 21:25 "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.  28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. 29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. 31 So likewise ye, when  ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.   ::pray:: 32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled... 

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye be may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

In Revelation 5, the redeemed sing, Only you are worthy Lord Jesus to receive Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor
"Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power,  and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing."

Thank you, Lord, for what you have done, and for what you will do.

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Re: What about the Sign of the Woman Clothed in the Sun? Sept. 23rd.
« Reply #24 on: Sun Mar 21, 2021 - 16:32:22 »
Another old post, but needs some fixing...

There was a question entered above as to “what generation” would see all those signs given in  Luke 21:8-35, including the return of the Son of Man in a cloud. 

Jesus tells us Himself what generation would see ALL those things take place.  In Luke 21:36 (YLT), he said, “Watch ye then, in every season, praying that ye may be accounted worthy to escape ALL these things that are *ABOUT TO* COME TO PASS, and to stand before the Son of Man.”  The Greek uses the term “Mellonta” in this verse, which is a clear indication of something that was “ABOUT TO” happen in the near future for those disciples who were hearing Christ speak these words for the first time.  At least 13 of 45 versions catch this sense of imminence found in the “mellonta” term, and translate this verse accordingly.

The disciples would experience “ALL THESE THINGS” listed in Luke 21:8-35, which were “ALL...ABOUT TO COME TO PASS” in THEIR first-century generation.  And that included the second coming return of the Son of Man as well.

As for the original theme of this post - the pictured image in heaven of the woman “clothed with the sun and with the moon under her feet” - there is a reason for John viewing this particular imagery.  God intended to make a clear distinction between the ancient pagan “Queen of heaven” that the Jews had once worshipped in imitation of the idolatrous Canaanites, and Christ Jesus the “man child” as the “seed of the woman” coming out from the nation of Israel (the 12 stars of the woman’s crown picturing the 12 tribes of Israel).

In the ancient Canaanite worship of the “Queen of heaven” known as “Tannit”, (the consort of Baal), her iconic emblems chiseled into stelae dedicated to her in numerous child sacrifice tophets have a crescent moon curving over a sun disc just beneath that crescent moon.  This crescent moon / sun disc emblem is then positioned over a triangle image with stylized upturned arms, representing the goddess Tannit.  This worship of Tannit and Baal included sacrificing and burning the bodies of infants and very young children - an abomination to God that the Israelites from old time had shamefully participated in.

This crescent moon and sun disc image were always positioned ABOVE the emblem for Tannit, the “Queen of heaven”, an image which was well known to the Jews.  God did not want any confusion to arise between those ancient pagan images and the vision He gave to John portraying the woman giving birth to Jesus the “man child” who ascended to His Father’s throne.  Therefore, John’s vision described the moon’s image as being UNDER THE WOMAN’S FEET - not curving over her head, as was usual for Tannit’s emblem.  Likewise, in contrast to the Tannit image having the sun disc over her head, John’s vision portrayed the woman with child being CLOTHED WITH THE SUN.

That “man child” caught up to God’s throne was also “*ABOUT TO* RULE ALL NATIONS WITH A ROD OF IRON” - in John’s days - not ours.