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What change was Job waiting for?
« on: Sat Feb 24, 2018 - 04:58:38 »
We know that believing in Christ as our Creator and how man came to be at Creation lays the foundation for other essential truths. If He created us, He has the power to change our lives. We aren’t just slaves to what we inherited and environment, full of sin and ultimately death. We read in 2 Cor. 5:17:

“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” 2 Cor. 5:17.

The Creator knows what every man and woman has in their hearts and minds, as well what makes up every atom of the body, the Creator can produce a new creation in us, but what about our bodies. In Job we find the following:

“So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! If a man die, shall he live again? All the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come. Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee: thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.” Job 14:12-15.

So when will we awake from the grave and to what change?

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Re: What change was Job waiting for?
« Reply #1 on: Sat Feb 24, 2018 - 10:39:09 »
We know that believing in Christ as our Creator and how man came to be at Creation lays the foundation for other essential truths. If He created us, He has the power to change our lives. We aren’t just slaves to what we inherited and environment, full of sin and ultimately death. We read in 2 Cor. 5:17:

“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” 2 Cor. 5:17.

The Creator knows what every man and woman has in their hearts and minds, as well what makes up every atom of the body, the Creator can produce a new creation in us, but what about our bodies. In Job we find the following:

“So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! If a man die, shall he live again? All the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come. Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee: thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.” Job 14:12-15.

So when will we awake from the grave and to what change?

An unconscious state is a teaching of the Seventh Day Adventists.   Seventh Day Adventists believe that when Christ returns the unconcious believers are caught up to Him and then will be on the Earth with Him during the Millennium.   

2Cor 5:8  Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

2Tim 4:17  But the Lord stood by me and strengthened me, so that through me the message might be fully proclaimed and all the Gentiles might hear it. So I was rescued from the lion's mouth.
2Tim 4:18  The Lord will rescue me from every evil deed and bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom. To him be the glory forever and ever. Amen.

Paul knew his time was short and he knew that the Lord would bring him to where He is.

1Th 4:13  But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope.
1Th 4:14  For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep.
1Th 4:15  For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
1Th 4:17  Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

The Body is what had died or "fallen asleep."  The body is the earthly home.  At the time of the death of the physical body the Spirit man of the Believer goes on to be with the Lord.   How else would it be that He will bring with Him those who have gone on before?   Jesus will come in the eternal body like all of His people are going to have.   




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