I agree, to a degree, with what you replied.... but not this.
I, for one, am waiting for "the" antiChrist, whom I believe will not be a popup minister claiming to be Christ, or even a deceiver with such claims.
We had that... not terribly long ago.....
"“I represent the messiah.” Farrakhan said, again referencing Jesus. “I represent the Jesus and I am that Jesus. If I am not, take my life.”
Louis Farrakhan ~ https://www.jpost.com/OMG/Farrakhan-I-represent-the-Jesus-that-saves-585978
And he is not alone in the "cults" of this world.
No, this one who is coming... he will be the great deceiver. Where possible deceiving the very elect. (Mathew 24:24)
Are you aware that the idea of Anti-Christ or the Antichrist is not claimed only by Christian believers?
It is also within the Islamic faith. In Islamic eschatology, Al-Masih ad-Dajjal is an anti-messiah figure ... similar to anti Christ... that will deceive humanity before the second coming of Jesus.
While we know that Islam does not believe in Jesus as savior, but only as a great prophet...
But from 2 world religions... Christianity and Muslim.... it cannot escape our common ancestor... without whom we would not have evolved and neither would they. Abraham ( with Hagar) ((them)) and Abraham ( with Sarah) ((us))
So do you not find it interesting that through the ages of the 2 religions clashing that their would be this commonality of
anti-christ or as they say.anti-messiah figure?
Now their beliefs are so anti Jesus that one naturally can believe they are all anti-Christs.... While there is a definite
similarity, it stops.
Muslim end times beliefs are
In the final days, Muslims hold, Jesus indeed comes again.
This is the Muslim version of Jesus – Isa Al-Maseeh, who just happens to fit the description of the “false prophet” described in Revelation as performing miraculous signs and being worshipped.
This Muslim “Isa” is just one of the last in a series of prophets, all of whom testified to the future coming of Muhammad and God’s final revelation.
At the end, Isa Al-Maseeh will descend and destroy all crosses, and kill all Christians and others who refuse to convert to Islam. (Much as the Muslim extremists wage Jihad against us today)
There will also be an anti-Christ – Ad-Dajjal in the Muslim version.
He will claim to be the Messiah, but is a liar. He will become the charismatic leader of the Jews, followed by Jews and women, but will finally be slaughtered by the Muslim Jesus.
The final apocalyptic battles will take place north of Israel in the land of Magog (Rev. 20:7) during the reign of the final caliphate, the Mahdi (the rough Muslim equivalent of the pope), who will rule over all of Islam.
The Mahdi will wear a crown and ride a white horse, matching the description in Revelation 6:2 And with the help of Isa Al-Maseeh ...the Muslim Jesus... will defeat Dajjal ...the Muslim anti-Christ..., resulting in a world where Islam finally is the only religion, and all other religions have been banished from the face of the earth.
Did you catch that... their Mahdi is the Muslim equivalent of the POPE. And this is a synopsis of their endtimes.
As to what Christians call... "The anti Christ.
I believe what I read and study in John and the book of Revelation. I come with the following conclusions.
One can have a spirit of antiChrist and not be "THE" antiChrist of end times.
The anti-Christ... is a deceiver who denies that there can be any relationship between Father and Son in God: “Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ?
Remember.... It was the current Pope Francis who was re-reported ( as I posted above)
And was re-reported
"July 2017 – At times one hears someone say: “I believe in God, I believe in Jesus, but I don’t care about the Church…”. How many times have we heard this? And this is not good. There are those who believe they can maintain a personal, direct and immediate relationship with Jesus Christ outside the communion and the mediation of the Church. These are dangerous and harmful temptations. These are, as the great Paul VI said, absurd dichotomies. It is true that walking together is challenging, and at times can be tiring: it can happen that some brother or some sister creates difficulties, or shocks us
(And while I am not naming Pope Francis as the "Antichrist" this is among many baby steps in the end times leading that church into a great falling away._
He is anti-Christ who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.” (1 John 2:22-23)
First you need to create a separation from people clinging to Jesus in personal relationship and direct them to the church for their guidance, before you can step up and say "I am HE"
Further ~ The anti-Christ refuses to recognize that the Son of God has come to earth and become human. Or at minimum will convince people this is so with his claims to be Christ.
We are told by John “Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the anti-Christ, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.” (1 John 4:1-3)
There is no argument that the spirit of Anti Christ is here. We all know people who scoff at this idea.
But the anti Christ of the end is not the spirit of anti Christ.... anymore then we, who have the Holy Spirit abiding within us are the Holy Spirit.... They are 2 separate things.
The “seducer” and “anti-Christ” is one who denies this truth about God’s Son... not necessarily believing what he is saying but of necessity needing to convince the people of this to further his deception.
2 John 1:7 says For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Satan, through the ministrations of the “Dragon” and the “Beast” (see Rev. 13:4), who promote the spirit of the anti-Christ, will seek total world domination and worship. And those who refuse to adore “the beast or his image” will be beheaded.. (Rev. 20:4)
Yes, there have been volumes of books written by religious men sharing literally thousands of "end time" scenarios.
But from my perspective, do we not all have "end times"? I mean, I know Jesus will return at some point, but if I die today, isn't that HIS return for me? Isn't the "Thief in the night" the end of my life which I don't know when will happen? Shouldn't a wise man be prepared and endure "until the end"? That would be the end of their life, right?
Also, from my perspective, most men don't really believe Jesus was flesh and blood just like I am. They really don't believe HE overcame sin by humbling Himself to God, rather, He overcame sin because HE had Godly powers no other human has ever had.
I have been banned from forums like this for just suggesting Jesus was a man just like you and I. I have been called a heretic because I don't believe Jesus was some kind of Hybrid Man unlike any other man ever born. I truly do believe HE came in the Flesh in all ways like unto His brethren. But that would mean every human, if they denied themselves and trusted the Armor of God, could humble themselves to God and "sin no more". A belief that is universally rejected by almost every religion under the "Christian banner".
From my perspective I see a massive religion which has created an image of God in the likeness of some long haired men's hair shampoo model and distributed this image through out the entire world. To the point that if you showed this image to almost anyone over the age of 12 on the planet, they would identify it as Jesus. Even though scriptures tell us HE wasn't some handsome hunk of a man with perfect profile..
I see a massive religion which has rejected wholesale the "Feast's of the Christ" and have replaced them with man made High Days founded in ancient pagan festivals. And have promoted them into the greatest religious high days ever seen on the planet, observed literally by the entire world. To the point where the economic success of many peoples on the earth is determined by commerce during these man made religious high Days.
How can it be said that those true elect during the Holocaust didn't experience "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be".
Or those elect who died during WW1, or the Inquisition, or any of a number of horrible times on this earth. It is said Peter was crucified upside down. Was that not his "end time"? How much worse could it get for Peter?
Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus
, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
What happens when a man "denies himself", which Jesus said "ALL" who come to HIM must do?
Eph. 4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Is this not Spiritually being "Beheaded"? Is not my head "Put off" and replaced with a mind of a "New Man"?
Col. 3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man
with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man
, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
What is put off? Is it not our mind? Or thoughts? Our way of thinking?
Or is Revelation 20:4 only speaking to those Elect who died one specific way? Stephen wouldn't be qualified to reign with the Christ then, nor the thief on the cross.
What generation since Jesus ascended into heaven has not lived with "wars and rumors of wars"? Can you name one?
What has divided humans more than religion? If I persuade you to transgress God's Commandments, am I not Spiritually killing you?
No, there is something wrong with the idea that the Christ is a respecter of persons. That we don't get to reign with Him in His Kingdom unless we are murdered a certain way. Or that the warnings of the Christ were only for the people of that age.
2 Cor. 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Who are these? Do they exist today? And how will we know them?
IS. 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Jn. 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not
, neither knoweth him
: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know
that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
Rev. 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God
, and the faith of Jesus
Why did Jesus reject the only God of Abraham preaching religion of HIS Time? Was it because they were "Children of obedience"? No!!
Matt. 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men
I think God surely knows what HE is saying, and that we should spend more time listening to HIS Words, and less time listening to the never ending "Theologians" and they ever changing books and doctrines.
Ecc. 12:11 The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd
12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end
; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter
: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Matt. 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, (of his life) the same shall be saved.
Food for thought.