"matt 24:29-30 is the tribulation rapture! This is NOT israel's gathered together!"
You are contradicting the following scriptures:
11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
11:3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
11:5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
11:13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.
11:14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them.
11:15 And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.
11:16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.
27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
27:2 In that day sing ye unto her, A vineyard of red wine.
27:3 I the LORD do keep it; I will water it every moment: lest any hurt it, I will keep it night and day.
27:4 Fury is not in me: who would set the briers and thorns against me in battle? I would go through them, I would burn them together.
27:5 Or let him take hold of my strength, that he may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me.
27:6 He shall cause them that come of Jacob to take root: Israel shall blossom and bud, and fill the face of the world with fruit.
27:7 Hath he smitten him, as he smote those that smote him? or is he slain according to the slaughter of them that are slain by him?
27:8 In measure, when it shooteth forth, thou wilt debate with it: he stayeth his rough wind in the day of the east wind.
27:9 By this therefore shall the iniquity of Jacob be purged; and this is all the fruit to take away his sin; when he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in sunder, the groves and images shall not stand up.
27:10 Yet the defenced city shall be desolate, and the habitation forsaken, and left like a wilderness: there shall the calf feed, and there shall he lie down, and consume the branches thereof.
27:11 When the boughs thereof are withered, they shall be broken off: the women come, and set them on fire: for it is a people of no understanding: therefore he that made them will not have mercy on them, and he that formed them will shew them no favour.
27:12 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall beat off from the channel of the river unto the stream of Egypt, and ye shall be gathered one by one, O ye children of Israel.
27:13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the LORD in the holy mount at Jerusalem.
24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Your error is this: Matthew 24 is all about Israel living in the land during the coming 70th week decreed .... not the Lord's church
The above scriptures alone stand against your post-tribulation view .... and the gathering is not a resurrection of anyone .... it is the Lord's gathering of the mortal Israelite survivors of the tribulation who will enter and populate His coming millennial kingdom on the earth
He will then gather the survivors of the tribulation of the nations and those who are found believing will also enter His millennial kingdom upon the earth [Matthew 25:31-46]
If you cannot understand this truth from the scriptures it is because you don't want to
So you think these Israelite survivors of the tribulation enter the kingdom...........how? Are they raptured with the rest of the church? Are you saying that the gathering of the elect spoken of by Jesus in matthew 24 is not the rapture/resurrection? Because if you are, you are preaching a false gospel. I don't know where you get your information, but the reason God warned in the Book of Revelation to not add or take away from the words in the book are to protect the truth so it would not be changed by ignorant men, who will lead many away from the truth. That is why the bible says, let not many of you be teachers, because there is a stricker judgment. If we would just listen. If anyone is not in the truth even unknowingly and leading others in error, and away from the truth, there is judgment for this. That is supposed to put a respect in man towards the things of God, to make sure their words are not in error. No one is respecting God, or in other words, no one has the fear of God.
First of all, there is no 7 years of tribulation. There will be great tribulation but the 70th week of Daniel chapter 9 was already fulfilled by our Messiah Jesus, except the reference to the future prince to come who will destroy the sanctuary, which is God's chosen one's/the two witnesses, who will give their testimony. They are that sanctuary not made with hands. Jesus always spoke in a way that you had to look deeper to see the meaning of His words. This is one example. The sanctuary He speaks of is not a literal building. There are many references to this sanctuary being His chosen, elect, sons of God that will be revealed. Also, when Jesus told Niccodemus that He must be born again to see the Kingdom of God, He didn't mean literally being born from a womb. This is the heart of God throughout the scriptures. God is the author of what is revealed, not man. We are to let revelation come to us by His spirit in this way, not we figure it out literally. And it must not be delivered by a deceiving spirit. That is why God gives the message to His chosen Apostles, prophets, teachers, preachers, because He will equip them with spiritual gifts to protect them from any deception. God did it this way on purpose. That is why He spoke in parrables. It keeps the ones who are not hearing by the spirit from understanding. But now we are in the end days and everyone has their own interpretation. These interpretations come from "Man", not God. This is the spirit of Antichrist....."Man" replacing God. No one is seeking to hear God's revelation. Everyone is putting "Man's" revelation in place of God's. Many are making up stories that they think make sense with some scripture, but it does not line up with all scripture and with the heart of God in those scriptures as a whole. There is only one Rapture, which God calls the Resurrection at the end of the age. This first resurrection is for all living and dead elect/chosen, only, to rule and reign with Christ. Only those who are in the truth are worthy to rule and reign. This is a high position in God's kingdom, and it is not just handed over to any Tom, Dick, and Harry. And speaking of the word rapture, man came up with the word Rapture, it's not in the bible. We, man, have changed the truth by all these things that we make up and then build a whole prophetic interpretation upon, and it is in error. God must be the author of the interpretation, and He said it will be revealed to His chosen prophets, not every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Everyone thinks they have the mystery solved and they are not respecting God and not listening to His word. You should be looking for that prophet and hear the truth, and then know the truth. If men would seek and wait for God to show it to them before they hastily come up with their own interpretations. God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow, he will not change and lower himself to man, we must line up with Him or we miss it and miss out, and will be knocking at the door and He will say, "I never knew you".