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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2012, 01:00:40 PM »
And NO Muslims do not believe Jesus is the Christ. They believe he was a prophet rhat told lies about himself being the son of God.
Islam is the embodiment of Antichrist.

It's kinda like the story of Ishmael and Isaac in the Koran. There Ishmael is the son of promise. A counterfeit story that sounds similar and looks similar like ALL counterfeits, especially from the father of lies.
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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2012, 01:07:50 PM »
And NO Muslims do not believe Jesus is the Christ. They believe he was a prophet rhat told lies about himself being the son of God.
Islam is the embodiment of Antichrist.

It's kinda like the story of Ishmael and Isaac in the Koran. There Ishmael is the son of promise. A counterfeit story that sounds similar and looks similar like ALL counterfeits, especially from the father of lies.

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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2012, 06:06:10 PM »
According to John, antichrists were going out from among them and they were those who denied that Jesus Christ had come in the flesh. I don't believe Muslims will deny that... but they do deny that Jesus died for our sins. That makes them unbelievers.. not necessarily antichrist, under the biblical definition.

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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2012, 06:14:10 PM »
And NO Muslims do not believe Jesus is the Christ. They believe he was a prophet rhat told lies about himself being the son of God.
Islam is the embodiment of Antichrist.


Actually, according to Muslims (you can go on the comments on youtube videos and such) they believe that Jesus was "anointed" as in a prophet and that the Bible was at some point corrupted (to say that Jesus taught things that he didn't really teach.)

None that I know of would say that Jesus lied.  ::frown::
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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2012, 06:23:54 PM »
They wouldn't say it, but if God has no son in their belief, their prophet Jesus would have to be a liar. A curious position for a prophet. Jesus can't be a great prophet and wrong about his claim to be the son of God.

Anyone who denies Jesus is the son of God has the spirit of antiChrist.

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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2012, 07:37:56 PM »
Anyone who denies Jesus is the son of God has the spirit of antiChrist.

1John 2:21-22

You just nailed the Jews, and maybe Hagee too!





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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2012, 07:48:35 PM »
Anyone who denies Jesus is the son of God has the spirit of antiChrist.

1John 2:21-22

You just nailed the Jews, and maybe Hagee too!

Hagee knows that Jesus is the Son of God.  ::frown::

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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2012, 08:00:55 PM »
Aahil, i never said the Jews weren't. Their God though is the same God as our God. Allah is not. He is the deceiver. Hagee has never denied the is the son of God. He has said that Jesus was not the Messiah the jews were looking for. No duh! Tge messiah tge Jews are looking for will be the same guy we will be looking for the 2nd time. The Jews missed his first coming.......largely out of a blindness imposed on them Romans 11.
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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2012, 08:25:06 PM »
Wrong.  Islam (at least some within islam) believe He was a prophet or a false prophet. They absolutely do NOT believe he was Christ/Messiah/Anointed. They do not believe that even of Mohammed.


Jordanian Mosque One of Many Named in Honor of Jesus Christ.  Looks like you're wrong.

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Hagee is a flake and a heretic.


Hagee is just a little more honest about his Dispensationalism heresy than other Zionists.

 
Catholics believe that Jesus Christ is God Incarnate come to earth. Muslims do not believe that at all. You are wrong.

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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2012, 08:29:45 PM »
Hagee knows that Jesus is the Son of God.  ::frown::

I linked to a video of Hagee making a clear and deliberate point of saying "Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah."  That comes very close to meeting the Apostle John's definition of Antichrist.  Hagee is Antichrist.  1 John 2:22 Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist...

Even if Hagee hadn't articulated that specific belief, I'd still consider him to an Antichrist for his Zionist theology.

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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2012, 08:33:26 PM »
Over the last 1600+ years the Catholic Church has adopted many pagan believes in order to keep it's members happy and to spread it's powder through out the World. I started thinking about the Great Religion that will over take the World in the Last Days and also about the 12th Imam, the El-Mahdi who for all the world looks like the Beast spoken of in the Book of Revelations. This led me to start thinking that at some point in the near future the Pope may "hook up" with this Mahdi to form a more powerful "World Religion" in order to try and bring Peace to the World.
This would fit perfectly with the Beast(i.e. the 12th Imam) and the false profit(the Pope) from Revelations.
Has anyone else been lead by God's Spirt to see this as well or is it a concept that no one else has thought of yet?

This is the most ridiculous thread I have seen in  a long time. You might as well put forth the proposal that asks: Will Christianity and Islam merge?
 
Why single out the Catholics? Just go for the full monty and include ALL Christians because we all believe in the Virgin birth, the  divinity of Christ, His saving grace, and that He died for us on Calvary.

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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2012, 08:42:02 PM »
Aahil, i never said the Jews weren't. Their God though is the same God as our God. Allah is not. He is the deceiver. Hagee has never denied the is the son of God. He has said that Jesus was not the Messiah the jews were looking for. No duh! Tge messiah tge Jews are looking for will be the same guy we will be looking for the 2nd time. The Jews missed his first coming.......largely out of a blindness imposed on them Romans 11.

The false god of the Jews no more has a son than the false god of the Muslims.   But, Jesus never called Muslims the Synagogue of Satan or Children of Satan.  He called only Jews that.  Paul calls Jews the children of Ishmael.  If you know you Bible, you know that.  It is not Christianity that is taught by Hagee.  It is Satanism.  Hagee didn't  just say Jesus isn't the Messiah the Jews were looking for.  He says that Jesus didn't claim to be the Messiah, PERIOD.


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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2012, 08:44:06 PM »
Why single out the Catholics?

Evangelicals have a thing for disliking Catholics, that goes beyond just disagreeing with some of their doctrines.   

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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2012, 09:04:46 PM »
Why single out the Catholics?

Evangelicals have a thing for disliking Catholics, that goes beyond just disagreeing with some of their doctrines.   

Yeah, I know. But the basics of Christianity which we all believe are the same and came from one source - the universal Christian Church.

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Re: Will Islam and Catholicism merge?
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2012, 10:34:01 PM »
Aahil, i never said the Jews weren't. Their God though is the same God as our God. Allah is not. He is the deceiver. Hagee has never denied the is the son of God. He has said that Jesus was not the Messiah the jews were looking for. No duh! Tge messiah tge Jews are looking for will be the same guy we will be looking for the 2nd time. The Jews missed his first coming.......largely out of a blindness imposed on them Romans 11.

The false god of the Jews no more has a son than the false god of the Muslims.   But, Jesus never called Muslims the Synagogue of Satan or Children of Satan.  He called only Jews that.  Paul calls Jews the children of Ishmael.  If you know you Bible, you know that.  It is not Christianity that is taught by Hagee.  It is Satanism.  Hagee didn't  just say Jesus isn't the Messiah the Jews were looking for.  He says that Jesus didn't claim to be the Messiah, PERIOD.


The jews worship the same God as us, but they dont acknowledge Jesus as their saviour.
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