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raggthyme

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Hi Godlovejoy,

I understand where you are coming from, about needing to know how the words "at hand" are used in context, and I agree.. context is key! In the book of Revelation specifically, "at hand" is used to say that the prophecy itself was about to happen. Otherwise, what was the purpose of addressing it to the first century churches? They were to benefit from it's message in a very personal way. (1:3)

I know I mentioned this a few times in other threads, so please forgive me for repeating myself, but I don't know who has or hasn't read them. Here's how I see it:

Daniel was told about the time of the end, and that because it wasn't for him, but for a time far off, he was told to shut (seal) up the vision. (8:26, 12:4,9) But if you flip over to Revelation, John is being told the exact opposite. Not only is he told not to seal the sayings of this prophecy but he was told why, "for the time is at hand." (22:10) The very words of the prophecy were to "shortly take place." (22:6)

If the time was still for many days (at least another 2000 years) why wasn't John told the same as Daniel? But this same John said they knew it was the last hour... could it be possible that the end of the age was referring to something that came to pass in the first century, when God scattered the power of the holy people, leveling the temple and rendering the land desolate?

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Offline WarriorUvChrist

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@Godlovejoy

2 Peter 3:8 says,"With the Lord 1 day is as a 1,000 years,and a 1,000 yrs as 1 day."
If it took God 7 days,it would of took 7,000 yrs for man to build the earth!

And if God tells John that the Revelations which must shortly take place in His(God) time which is shortly then it will take place a longer time in our time! I don't care what any one else thinks,WE are in Revelations in the 5th seal-Rev.6:9.Those who are getting ready to be slain or be beheaded is us Christians to die for the Lord! Don't listen to anybody saying the Revelations that John wrote was in 70 A.D.,he wrote it for what's to come in our time,not God's time!

Peace,God Bless!

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Explain to me how Enoch was thousands of years before the end of the world.And he says that God showed him that He was going to destroy the world with fire?

Can you give me the Scripture you are referring to?

@Godlovejoy

2 Peter 3:8 says,"With the Lord 1 day is as a 1,000 years,and a 1,000 yrs as 1 day."
If it took God 7 days,it would of took 7,000 yrs for man to build the earth!

And if God tells John that the Revelations which must shortly take place in His(God) time which is shortly then it will take place a longer time in our time! I don't care what any one else thinks,WE are in Revelations in the 5th seal-Rev.6:9.Those who are getting ready to be slain or be beheaded is us Christians to die for the Lord! Don't listen to anybody saying the Revelations that John wrote was in 70 A.D.,he wrote it for what's to come in our time,not God's time!

Peace,God Bless!

If the time wasn't for at least 2000 years, why wasn't John told the same as Daniel? John was convinced the time was actually at hand, the prophecy about to come to pass, was he wrong?

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Explain to me how Enoch was thousands of years before the end of the world.And he says that God showed him that He was going to destroy the world with fire?


Can you give me the Scripture you are referring to?

@Godlovejoy

2 Peter 3:8 says,"With the Lord 1 day is as a 1,000 years,and a 1,000 yrs as 1 day."
If it took God 7 days,it would of took 7,000 yrs for man to build the earth!

And if God tells John that the Revelations which must shortly take place in His(God) time which is shortly then it will take place a longer time in our time! I don't care what any one else thinks,WE are in Revelations in the 5th seal-Rev.6:9.Those who are getting ready to be slain or be beheaded is us Christians to die for the Lord! Don't listen to anybody saying the Revelations that John wrote was in 70 A.D.,he wrote it for what's to come in our time,not God's time!

Peace,God Bless!




Nothing personal Friend but I'm not going to argue with other Christians! I told the MODS I was sorry for me,you,daq,& thinkers conflict & I am not going to have Biblical scripture battles with you 3! All I can say to you is,go out & find the Book of Enoch & the Book of Jubilees wrote by Enoch that was taken out from the Bible by King James in 1611 & became a Freemason in 1613 & the Royal Family because the Royal Family is from the Bloodline of Cain,then the fallen angels described in those text's mated with human women that's described in Gen.6:2 & 4 that created the Nephilim giants & then as soon as God released them from their prison came back out with Satan & his fallen to mate with Ham's descendents again & started the Babylonian empire! Alot of people don't realize that Noah,his wife,3 sons & their 3 wives were the only ones not infected by the Nephilim GENE,that's why God wanted to cleanse the earth with water to destroy their gene! God revealed to Enoch with the archangel Uriel about his plans of destroying the earth to rid that bloodline,the sending of Christ,the Revelations & Christ's return with His 10,000 angels for them to destroy the earth with fire-Jude 1:14 & 15 before Revelations talks about it a little! Them fallen angels with Lucifer was going to return.Whether you want to believe in Reptilians or not which Satan was in the Garden before God cursed him into a snake! If you have ever heard of demon possession,that's how they do it now,they have become alot of these people in the government,Military,Royal & RothsChilds incestous bloodline,celebrity bloodlines! Look at the Illuminati & all their Gene expirements which started in 1953 with the Cloning from the Shroud.They are the ones from the cloning that started the AIDS & SARS virus,vaccines,medical applications such as drugs like LSD from the CIA started by Skull & Bones George H.W. Bush.My friend just go find the Book,your mind is going to be blown apart! Heck,they are even cloning making animals deformed,a child with 2 heads or 8 limbs like that baby born in India a few years ago to keep them people thinking that Shiva is the baby so they can keep worshiping that godless,paganistic entity instead of Christ!

The Book of Enoch tells how Gabriel came to hear the men's cry out to God that were starting to get devoured by these giants because they couldn't sustain or nourish them.The men that cried out was noticed from Gabriel so he went to report this info to God.In the Book,God called the 4 archangels of Michael,Gabriel,Uriel,& Raphael & the 10,000 to chain these fallen for them breaking the code of not inter-mixing with human flesh.The other reason for God to destroy Sodom & Gomorrah was not just because of the homosexuality or their paganistic sacrificing but because the men was wanting to have sex with the angels that God sent to report on the 2 twin cities! Sons of God or angels are NOT to mix GENES! These Giants that were created by the fallen angels started to sin against REPTILIANS,birds,beast & was making hybrid creatures like you see in the pyramids of Egypt! Them giants are the ones that built the pyramids of Giza,Maya Sacrificial temples & altars for the Myans & Incas to sacrifice women & children to their so-called gods,they built the Stone Henge for the druids which are from the Brotherhood of the Snake/Satan,which is the Illuminati now! WE HAVE GOT TO DEPROGRAM ALL THESE LIES THAT OTHER HISTORY BOOKS HAVE BEEN TEACHING US SINCE WE WERE KIDS! The anti-Christ is going to be a Clone from the shroud of Jesus so the anti-Christ can have His DNA & His blood! What better way for Satan to send his son unless it's from the blood of Jesus!

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Just go look the Book up or on Wikipedia is a good resource! Please Bro,I am begging you to look this up for yourself because I don't want you misquoting me.PLEASE I beg you from God to search these things out! There is a reason why King James & the Royal Family took these Books of Enoch out,they don't want US knowing about these topics.And if you say they took them out & not stuff that Jesus said,well go look up a Documentary called

"A Trip into the Supernatural"! Roger Morneau who defected from the Illuminati back in the 40's & 50's,who was a Satanist that turned Christian,a conjourer of demons tells you that Lucifer had to find a way through teaching Evolutional doctrines through Darwin in 1813 WITHOUT him destroying the Bible-he is forbidden by God not to unless he wants to be thrown in hell for good before his time before Jesus comes! He tells you about the Great General Council of 1700's which is the Roundtable of 300 using evolution & science to get people to believe that him & God doesn't exist! Head priest of the Illuminati was told by Satan when they would conjour him & his angels that WE were headed into an Industrial age like WE are in,that was going to keep people busy enough until he can accomplish his goal of taking over the earth! Lucifer thinks that because Jesus died that He volutntarily gave up the throne of earth to him! Lucifer thinks he can defeat Jesus when He returns! That's why he's doing all of this with world governments,law,police states,military,drugs,science,& evolution.He thinks the more souls he can get that he can defeat the Lord & His army of saints! That's why he's smart enough but not smarter than God to wait until this appointed time!

 Just take a couple of hours out of your time to PLEASE check this video out! Then come back to disprove me!
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A Trip into the Supernatural! I'm going to also post this up on a new topic!

Look I want to apologize to you if you think I misinformed you about anything I said! alot of times im on the internet is when I have been on it all night & tired! Since you have the Spirit of the Lord in you,PLEASE FORGIVE ME if I have caused you any strife! I've been distrought,dis-heartened & sad the last couple of days because I don't want to fight with Heavenly Brothers & Sisters! I just want US to get ready for what's about to come!!! So Peace,God Bless & PLEASE watch the video ::bowing::



                               "For if you forgive men their trespasses,your Heavenly Father will also forgive you."
                                                                  ---Jesus Christ,Matthew 6:14      
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raggthyme

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Quote

Explain to me how Enoch was thousands of years before the end of the world.And he says that God showed him that He was going to destroy the world with fire?


Can you give me the Scripture you are referring to?

@Godlovejoy

2 Peter 3:8 says,"With the Lord 1 day is as a 1,000 years,and a 1,000 yrs as 1 day."
If it took God 7 days,it would of took 7,000 yrs for man to build the earth!

And if God tells John that the Revelations which must shortly take place in His(God) time which is shortly then it will take place a longer time in our time! I don't care what any one else thinks,WE are in Revelations in the 5th seal-Rev.6:9.Those who are getting ready to be slain or be beheaded is us Christians to die for the Lord! Don't listen to anybody saying the Revelations that John wrote was in 70 A.D.,he wrote it for what's to come in our time,not God's time!

Peace,God Bless!




Nothing personal Friend but I'm not going to argue with other Christians! I told the MODS I was sorry for me,you,daq,& thinkers conflict & I am not going to have Biblical scripture battles with you 3! All I can say to you is,go out & find the Book of Enoch & the Book of Jubilees wrote by Enoch that was taken out from the Bible by King James in 1611 & became a Freemason in 1613 & the Royal Family because the Royal Family is from the Bloodline of Cain,then the fallen angels described in those text's mated with human women that's described in Gen.6:2 & 4 that created the Nephilim giants & then as soon as God released them from their prison came back out with Satan & his fallen to mate with Ham's descendents again & started the Babylonian empire! Alot of people don't realize that Noah,his wife,3 sons & their 3 wives were the only ones not infected by the Nephilim GENE,that's why God wanted to cleanse the earth with water to destroy their gene! God revealed to Enoch with the archangel Uriel about his plans of destroying the earth to rid that bloodline,the sending of Christ,the Revelations & Christ's return with His 10,000 angels for them to destroy the earth with fire-Jude 1:14 & 15 before Revelations talks about it a little! Them fallen angels with Lucifer was going to return.Whether you want to believe in Reptilians or not which Satan was in the Garden before God cursed him into a snake! If you have ever heard of demon possession,that's how they do it now,they have become alot of these people in the government,Military,Royal & RothsChilds incestous bloodline,celebrity bloodlines! Look at the Illuminati & all their Gene expirements which started in 1953 with the Cloning from the Shroud.They are the ones from the cloning that started the AIDS & SARS virus,vaccines,medical applications such as drugs like LSD from the CIA started by Skull & Bones George H.W. Bush.My friend just go find the Book,your mind is going to be blown apart! Heck,they are even cloning making animals deformed,a child with 2 heads or 8 limbs like that baby born in India a few years ago to keep them people thinking that Shiva is the baby so they can keep worshiping that godless,paganistic entity instead of Christ!

The Book of Enoch tells how Gabriel came to hear the men's cry out to God that were starting to get devoured by these giants because they couldn't sustain or nourish them.The men that cried out was noticed from Gabriel so he went to report this info to God.In the Book,God called the 4 archangels of Michael,Gabriel,Uriel,& Raphael & the 10,000 to chain these fallen for them breaking the code of not inter-mixing with human flesh.The other reason for God to destroy Sodom & Gomorrah was not just because of the homosexuality or their paganistic sacrificing but because the men was wanting to have sex with the angels that God sent to report on the 2 twin cities! Sons of God or angels are NOT to mix GENES! These Giants that were created by the fallen angels started to sin against REPTILIANS,birds,beast & was making hybrid creatures like you see in the pyramids of Egypt! Them giants are the ones that built the pyramids of Giza,Maya Sacrificial temples & altars for the Myans & Incas to sacrifice women & children to their so-called gods,they built the Stone Henge for the druids which are from the Brotherhood of the Snake/Satan,which is the Illuminati now! WE HAVE GOT TO DEPROGRAM ALL THESE LIES THAT OTHER HISTORY BOOKS HAVE BEEN TEACHING US SINCE WE WERE KIDS! The anti-Christ is going to be a Clone from the shroud of Jesus so the anti-Christ can have His DNA & His blood! What better way for Satan to send his son unless it's from the blood of Jesus!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5aOP-azKzs

Just go look the Book up or on Wikipedia is a good resource! Please Bro,I am begging you to look this up for yourself because I don't want you misquoting me.PLEASE I beg you from God to search these things out! There is a reason why King James & the Royal Family took these Books of Enoch out,they don't want US knowing about these topics.And if you say they took them out & not stuff that Jesus said,well go look up a Documentary called

"A Trip into the Supernatural"! Roger Morneau who defected from the Illuminati back in the 40's & 50's,who was a Satanist that turned Christian,a conjourer of demons tells you that Lucifer had to find a way through teaching Evolutional doctrines through Darwin in 1813 WITHOUT him destroying the Bible-he is forbidden by God not to unless he wants to be thrown in hell for good before his time before Jesus comes! He tells you about the Great General Council of 1700's which is the Roundtable of 300 using evolution & science to get people to believe that him & God doesn't exist! Head priest of the Illuminati was told by Satan when they would conjour him & his angels that WE were headed into an Industrial age like WE are in,that was going to keep people busy enough until he can accomplish his goal of taking over the earth! Lucifer thinks that because Jesus died that He volutntarily gave up the throne of earth to him! Lucifer thinks he can defeat Jesus when He returns! That's why he's doing all of this with world governments,law,police states,military,drugs,science,& evolution.He thinks the more souls he can get that he can defeat the Lord & His army of saints! That's why he's smart enough but not smarter than God to wait until this appointed time!

 Just take a couple of hours out of your time to PLEASE check this video out! Then come back to disprove me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ird-BKuPRlw A Trip into the Supernatural! I'm going to also post this up on a new topic!

Look I want to apologize to you if you think I misinformed you about anything I said! alot of times im on the internet is when I have been on it all night & tired! Since you have the Spirit of the Lord in you,PLEASE FORGIVE ME if I have caused you any strife! I've been distrought,dis-heartened & sad the last couple of days because I don't want to fight with Heavenly Brothers & Sisters! I just want US to get ready for what's about to come!!! So Peace,God Bless & PLEASE watch the video ::bowing::



                               "For if you forgive men their trespasses,your Heavenly Father will also forgive you."
                                                                  ---Jesus Christ,Matthew 6:14      


I forgive you, from my heart. I take very seriously Christ's command. I do not expect mercy and grace from God unless I'm willing to give it. He has pardoned me for more than anyone will ever know. Praise be to His holy name.

I'm not here to fight or argue either, I have enjoyed debating different viewpoints in a respectful manner for several months now. I don't share what I've learned to change the minds of people here. I know most are comfortable with their own interpretations and that's fine. I'm really here to give an answer for why I believe preterism is Biblical. Most will disagree, and that's fine too. But maybe there's one person visiting this site who is in the same place I was, seeing the inconsistencies of the dispensational/futurist doctrine. I'm here for that person, because there is an answer to their dilemma. No need to lose faith in Jesus Christ just because they may have misunderstood the nature of "end times" events.

I really do believe futurism breeds Atheism, I have spoken with enough Atheists who were raised in Christian homes to be convinced of this. It almost happened to me once I started seeing the discrepancies. I also know that pretty much no one on this board will agree with me, and I'm ok with that. I still enjoy the friendly debate.  ::smile::

Sorry, but I've spent enough time on youtube in the last couple years to last a lifetime. I'm just sticking with the Bible now my friend. No offense.

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First off,I don't remember you pointing out any scripture until now of men being married or to myself when I said I live a celebant life!

2nd,where do you get that I think of myself being a bride unto myself except me wanting to be married to the Lord & to keep myself pure! What five have fallen,go ahead...please explain!
 
Also stop talking like your Hebrew & Aramaic or the Royal English King James language with words like ye,thou,haveth,gaveth & talk like an American like everyone else does!

In Noah's time 200 fallen angels from the Book of Enoch & Lucifer & his fallen that got kicked out also were fornicating with human women & created the Nephilim that is also described in-Gen.6:2 & 4!

Also friend I don't worship Molech or any other fake god entity that you think I worship! You can get that out of your head that's out in LaLa land!

 And what lesson is it that I am soon suppose to learn the hard way,are you going to try & teach me ...BOY? Don't threaten me with your holier-than-thou-attitude like your going to come after me along side with Him crap or that Jesus will come after me.I am on His side,not yours or that you think He wants you to fight along side Him...softy! I also didn't say that you don't have respect for the Word,so why should you say that to me?

And all I said is that I look up to Jesus as a revolutional hero or that because you might want to look at Him like that! I didn't say exactly that you really look at Him like a pacifist hippie.I don't just look to the Lord as a peaceful God but a fearful or a Warrior One because He can throw people in hell too...body & all!

Besides this is the "Will the U.S. stop the New World Order" post,not the
 "I think I'm going to give this other Christian a hard time"post,what does anything you say have to do with the end times! I think you have gotten a little off track or on the tracks waiting for the train to run you over it sounds like!

You know I deal with evolutionist,atheist or satanist that portray to be an atheist or Christian like you 2 on the internet all the time! I enjoy it!
I'll pray to the Lord tonight to ask Him to back you & your friend raggthyme off of me because you & his rubbish is starting to get old! Or HER with the name raggthyme,It sounds like!!!

Speaking of scattering the flock,what do you think you're doing badgering or causing strife with another member of the flock my friend? You say that I am acting like a Shepherd scattering the flock,well aren't you suppose to keep the flock together also instead of trying to chase off another Christian or a member of the flock!

Thank You,Peace & God Bless & He forgives you & your buddy for starting turmoil amongst His flock,like you say!!!



            
               "Avoid foolish disputes,contentions,and strivings about the Law(Bible);for they are unprofitable and useless."
                                                                  ---Apostle Paul,Titus 3:9
                                                              

 If I come back to this thread & I see you & your buddy trying to pick a fight still or trying to bash me on another Post!
 I'll have some very harsh words that neither one of you will like next time & if you both seen what I look like & how angry I can get with my wrath,you guys wouldn't run your mouths & you would run in another direction...that's a Promise & not a threat!
                                                                                 ::frustrated::


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Nothing personal Friend but I'm not going to argue with other Christians! I told the MODS I was sorry for me,you,daq,& thinkers conflict & I am not going to have Biblical scripture battles with you 3! All I can say to you is,go out & find the Book of Enoch & the Book of Jubilees wrote by Enoch that was taken out from the Bible by King James in 1611 & became a Freemason in 1613 & the Royal Family because the Royal Family is from the Bloodline of Cain,then the fallen angels described in those text's mated with human women that's described in Gen.6:2 & 4 that created the Nephilim giants & then as soon as God released them from their prison came back out with Satan & his fallen to mate with Ham's descendents again & started the Babylonian empire! Alot of people don't realize that Noah,his wife,3 sons & their 3 wives were the only ones not infected by the Nephilim GENE,that's why God wanted to cleanse the earth with water to destroy their gene! God revealed to Enoch with the archangel Uriel about his plans of destroying the earth to rid that bloodline,the sending of Christ,the Revelations & Christ's return with His 10,000 angels for them to destroy the earth with fire-Jude 1:14 & 15 before Revelations talks about it a little! Them fallen angels with Lucifer was going to return.Whether you want to believe in Reptilians or not which Satan was in the Garden before God cursed him into a snake! If you have ever heard of demon possession,that's how they do it now,they have become alot of these people in the government,Military,Royal & RothsChilds incestous bloodline,celebrity bloodlines! Look at the Illuminati & all their Gene expirements which started in 1953 with the Cloning from the Shroud.They are the ones from the cloning that started the AIDS & SARS virus,vaccines,medical applications such as drugs like LSD from the CIA started by Skull & Bones George H.W. Bush.My friend just go find the Book,your mind is going to be blown apart! Heck,they are even cloning making animals deformed,a child with 2 heads or 8 limbs like that baby born in India a few years ago to keep them people thinking that Shiva is the baby so they can keep worshiping that godless,paganistic entity instead of Christ!

The Book of Enoch tells how Gabriel came to hear the men's cry out to God that were starting to get devoured by these giants because they couldn't sustain or nourish them.The men that cried out was noticed from Gabriel so he went to report this info to God.In the Book,God called the 4 archangels of Michael,Gabriel,Uriel,& Raphael & the 10,000 to chain these fallen for them breaking the code of not inter-mixing with human flesh.The other reason for God to destroy Sodom & Gomorrah was not just because of the homosexuality or their paganistic sacrificing but because the men was wanting to have sex with the angels that God sent to report on the 2 twin cities! Sons of God or angels are NOT to mix GENES! These Giants that were created by the fallen angels started to sin against REPTILIANS,birds,beast & was making hybrid creatures like you see in the pyramids of Egypt! Them giants are the ones that built the pyramids of Giza,Maya Sacrificial temples & altars for the Myans & Incas to sacrifice women & children to their so-called gods,they built the Stone Henge for the druids which are from the Brotherhood of the Snake/Satan,which is the Illuminati now! WE HAVE GOT TO DEPROGRAM ALL THESE LIES THAT OTHER HISTORY BOOKS HAVE BEEN TEACHING US SINCE WE WERE KIDS! The anti-Christ is going to be a Clone from the shroud of Jesus so the anti-Christ can have His DNA & His blood! What better way for Satan to send his son unless it's from the blood of Jesus!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5aOP-azKzs

Just go look the Book up or on Wikipedia is a good resource! Please Bro,I am begging you to look this up for yourself because I don't want you misquoting me.PLEASE I beg you from God to search these things out! There is a reason why King James & the Royal Family took these Books of Enoch out,they don't want US knowing about these topics.And if you say they took them out & not stuff that Jesus said,well go look up a Documentary called

"A Trip into the Supernatural"! Roger Morneau who defected from the Illuminati back in the 40's & 50's,who was a Satanist that turned Christian,a conjourer of demons tells you that Lucifer had to find a way through teaching Evolutional doctrines through Darwin in 1813 WITHOUT him destroying the Bible-he is forbidden by God not to unless he wants to be thrown in hell for good before his time before Jesus comes! He tells you about the Great General Council of 1700's which is the Roundtable of 300 using evolution & science to get people to believe that him & God doesn't exist! Head priest of the Illuminati was told by Satan when they would conjour him & his angels that WE were headed into an Industrial age like WE are in,that was going to keep people busy enough until he can accomplish his goal of taking over the earth! Lucifer thinks that because Jesus died that He volutntarily gave up the throne of earth to him! Lucifer thinks he can defeat Jesus when He returns! That's why he's doing all of this with world governments,law,police states,military,drugs,science,& evolution.He thinks the more souls he can get that he can defeat the Lord & His army of saints! That's why he's smart enough but not smarter than God to wait until this appointed time!

 Just take a couple of hours out of your time to PLEASE check this video out! Then come back to disprove me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ird-BKuPRlw A Trip into the Supernatural! I'm going to also post this up on a new topic!

Look I want to apologize to you if you think I misinformed you about anything I said! alot of times im on the internet is when I have been on it all night & tired! Since you have the Spirit of the Lord in you,PLEASE FORGIVE ME if I have caused you any strife! I've been distrought,dis-heartened & sad the last couple of days because I don't want to fight with Heavenly Brothers & Sisters! I just want US to get ready for what's about to come!!! So Peace,God Bless & PLEASE watch the video ::bowing::



                               "For if you forgive men their trespasses,your Heavenly Father will also forgive you."
                                                                  ---Jesus Christ,Matthew 6:14      


You are indeed a shepherd left in charge of your own "fellowservants" of your own household just as the "goodman" of your own house; the "householder" while the Master Yeshua is away; the "PORTER" and "KEEPER" of your own house: if indeed you truly knew Christ. Your fellowservants are your own ears and what you fill them with, your eyes and what you put in front of them, your hands and what you do with them, your feet and where you walk with them, and tongue in your mouth which is the smallest of your members; yet lights on fire the fires of hell. However, you do not appear to have understood a single word of the Scriptures which were quoted to you.

Matthew 13:52 KJV
52. Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.

Mark 13:31-34 KJV
31. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
32. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
33. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
34. For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.

Matthew 24:43-45 KJV
43. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?


You ask to forgive and I do:
However, it is not myself, or whether the moderators will get you banned or not, that you should be concerned about. None of the things spoken to you here in this thread or anywhere else are a joke; and the Scripture already told you whom you should fear, and it is not the NWO, Illuminati, Lucent Technologies, or "Lucifers World" videos:

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Phil Bro,don't even listen to this daq guy who sounds like a Jew quoting the Torah all the time when WE are American or don't let him ruffle your angelic feathers! Just ignore him! He & his buddy raggthyme act like they know it all & it seems apparant that they constantly go around picking people's beliefs apart like what's explained in 1 Peter 5:8!!! Lucifer & his minions know the Bible also & can quote scripture just to antagonize Christians like what they do!
Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light- 2 Corinthians 11:14,apostle Paul.
They are changing people's quotes & adding words to belittle & makes US look like WE're Biblical illiterate or liars while they think they are God theirselves! These devils don't want to mess with me & better be glad I don't see them face to face...or they would be running!

Paul preached to the Gentiles as well as the Jews & who cares which one he went to preach to first,as long as every one hears the word of God or what Christ went through for ALL of US! I am not racist at all(I love Christ who is a Jew) but the Jews have turned their back on God more than any other race,the Bible tells US on many occasions! Heck look at what they did or allowed to happen to Jesus!



Re: Random thoughts on the end times.
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Mark 3:28-30 KJV
28. Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29. But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
30. Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

1 John 3:13-15 KJV
13. Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14. We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

1 John 5:16-19 KJV
16. If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
18. We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
19. And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

Luke 12:5 KJV
5. But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

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Do not think this comes from me because didn't Jesus say that many will come in my name proclaiming I am He! Well I am not Him,I am His Messenger! Believe me if I wasn't telling these facts,I'd tell you that it comes from me because I AM NOT AFRAID OF ANYBODY EXCEPT THE LORD! If any of you believe in these Words I tell you,DO NOT THANK ME BUT THANK GOD & THE LORD JESUS CHRIST,FOR BEHOLD THE LORD IS COMING & HAS SENT OUT HIS PROPHETS IN END TIMES!!! Which is here,man can't prophesy any farther into the future because the END IS NEAR,There is nothing left to prophesy except what's right around the corner! You never know,I just might be an ANGEL IN DISGUISE  ::angel::

And you also never know "messenger" ~
Some here might already be dwelling in the Tabernacle of YHWH:


John 3:11-13 KJV
11. Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
13. And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

John 14:2-3 KJV
2. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Ephesians 2:4-6 KJV
4. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5. Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6. And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Revelation 13:6 KJV
6. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.


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I forgive you, from my heart. I take very seriously Christ's command. I do not expect mercy and grace from God unless I'm willing to give it. He has pardoned me for more than anyone will ever know. Praise be to His holy name.

I'm not here to fight or argue either, I have enjoyed debating different viewpoints in a respectful manner for several months now. I don't share what I've learned to change the minds of people here. I know most are comfortable with their own interpretations and that's fine. I'm really here to give an answer for why I believe preterism is Biblical. Most will disagree, and that's fine too. But maybe there's one person visiting this site who is in the same place I was, seeing the inconsistencies of the dispensational/futurist doctrine. I'm here for that person, because there is an answer to their dilemma. No need to lose faith in Jesus Christ just because they may have misunderstood the nature of "end times" events.

I really do believe futurism breeds Atheism, I have spoken with enough Atheists who were raised in Christian homes to be convinced of this. It almost happened to me once I started seeing the discrepancies. I also know that pretty much no one on this board will agree with me, and I'm ok with that. I still enjoy the friendly debate.  ::smile::

Sorry, but I've spent enough time on youtube in the last couple years to last a lifetime. I'm just sticking with the Bible now my friend. No offense.


I Thank You for forgiving me my Heavenly Brother,apparantly I'm not from a couple of others! Instead i'm being told that I do not understand scripture still. Bro,I am not this so-called futurist that you are describing,in fact,that's the 1st time I have heard that description except when I looked upon a post that was called something about futurist! Believe me Bro,I could never be an athiest!!!
I have always believed in God & knowing that Lucifer is real because I use to be an ex-satanist,occultist,into wicca,symbology & numerology.I am still mad at myself until this day about turning my back against the Lord when I was 13(a masonic #).I am not trying to self-endorse myself or anything because I am not relaying WARNINGS for vanity but If you haven't checked or read my Post in the Introductory Discussion.Just go over to it & read what I have been through with my spiritual paths & you might just be blown away spiritually,if you might not of read it.I have a picture whether you believe in Revelations in our time or not but an imaginery image of what Christ will look like when He comes back...it's scary in a Heavenly way!

Even though you have seen enough Youtube videos,did you still look up those 2 videos I posted in that forgiving post!
I found some videos that is a 7 part video of the Book of Enoch called "The Book of Enoch-The Watchers" that I should get posted up if people don't understand what exactly happened with Enoch-the 1st prophet except what Gen.5:21-23 says.All it says is that Enoch was 65 when he had his 1st son Methuselah & that he walked with God 300 years & then totaled time of 365 years,then God took him? Trust me Bro,just go out & find the Book of Enoch if you have a Books-a-Million or any other Book store! I'm telling you Bro,it is some wild stuff that Uriel took Enoch on a wild trip through the Heavens or Spirit with God's permission.It talks about how 200 fallen angels with the leader by the name Semyaza made a pact with the other 199 to descend down on Mt. Hermon during the days of Jared(5th from Adam) to fornicate/mix DNA with human women that created the Nephilim giants descibed in Gen.6:2 & 4.It talks about Christ's return with His 10,000 warrior angels to destroy those that didn't believe in Him & to judge the wicked-it talks about that end part with Christ in Jude1:14 & 15,the book before Revelations.Besides death-Enoch was the 1st to see God & this is just my opinion! I think the reason why God took Enoch & Elijah in the flesh is because I think they are going to be the 2 witnesses in Revelations 11! I know im going to get someone to say something about it but it's just my opinion & not a fact so don't misquote me! What other reason would God take them in the flesh besides Christ-His Son? Just something to think about?

I have a post im going to put up in this End Times forum called"Questioning claims of Revelations 70 A.D.".I was hearing these voices as I was going in & out of my sleep.I don't know what it was but it was something Heavenly or God,I don't know.It was some questions being told to me about people believing the Tribulation,Revelations that supposedly happened in 70 A.D..I can guarantee that nobody will be able to answer or reply back with these questions that was coming to me in my dreams.They are questions that I can prove that the Revelations didn't happen from 70-77A.D. in John or Nero's time or if Christ came back in 77 A.D. to the 1,000 year reign from 77-1077 A.D.!

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Nothing personal Friend but I'm not going to argue with other Christians! I told the MODS I was sorry for me,you,raggthyme,& thinkers conflict & I am not going to have Biblical scripture battles with you! Believe me Bro,I have WOKEN UP a friend of mine that took years for me to get him into believeing in Christ! You are right,I am not a shepherd to other Christians because you do believe but I am a shepherd to that 1 of those 99 sheep that are lost...to save them from the hands of the devil! I am NOT afraid of the NWO-Illuminati-Freemasons,i'm just sick of them playing 4 Horsemen or using their globalist agenda to get ready to Chip US so WE can't work,buy,sell or trade! Whether people don't believe in the Concentration FEMA Death Camps,the mark of the beast system(RFID Chip),or Revelations,it doesn't matter to me if people don't want to believe it but just what if all this is going to happen & people don't believe in the Rapture! What are the people that don't believe going to do? Just what if NWO Black Ops police come as a thief in the night to take you,WILL YOU BELIEVE THEN?
I am trying to WARN people politically as well as Spiritually,these things are going to happen whether you or anybody else calls it the Revelations & Tribulations or not! I don't only just study the Bible daq friend,I also keep my eye on politics as well to coincide with the Bible.What are the 3 things that nobody should argue about,1.Politics...2.Religion...3.Money. Them devils keep that seperate & out of the lime light because these were things that Jesus fought against,well not fight but preach against because people in politics abuse their power,people in religion only use it for their justifiable means, & money because it is THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL & is what controls the other 2!!!
I am NOT afraid of them NWO-secret society scum,I do fear God but I feel that He needs some Warriors to stand up to fight against these evil entities.If no one does,they are going to keep killing people or Christians all over the world so they can rule the world for Lucifer or with him.Them misleading people with lies or science & evolution.Christians like me are tired of these people or possessed demons when they go through their secret society initiations & sacrificial rituals of animals & children like they do at Bohemian Grove California or their satanic temples! Believe me,if I had it my way.I would like to see all 7 billion people believe in God but that's not what He wants.I know God wants US to have free will or for US to not be robots but to fear,love or worship Him in flesh & spirit! Instead of fighting or arguing with me,help other Christians like me to fight them,stop them, & to WAKE UP other non-believers! All of US Christians need to team together to stop these devils! If I have to drive people nuts all the time to get people to see what I've seen through these 34 years to follow up on the topics I'm talking about like these devils,I'm going to continue to drive people nuts until people say,"You know,I'm going to check these things out so Warrior will shut up". I guarantee when you do or if,I PROMISE-you'll be like"Man I see what he's saying now,these people are truly wicked & WE Christians need to stop this madness". If you want to prove me wrong,just look up these things I'm saying for me to show you that I'm right.Don't do it for me but for The Lord,yourselves,your friends & your family,to protect them from those forces of evil!!! I am not doing none of this for money or for me but to WAKE people up politically,spiritually & morally!!! So Peace,God Bless & Thank You for forgiving me my Brother!



          "Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer.Indeed the devil is about to throw some of you in prison,
          that you may be tested,and you will have tribulation 10 days.Be faithful until death,and I will give you the Crown of Life."
                                                       ---The Lord & Savior-Jesus Christ,Revelations 2:10
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THE WOUNDING TO DEATH OF THE UNITED NATIONS

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And the beast the body of the United Nations Organization constitute seven kings/dom Revelation 17:10 The Organization destined to be wounded as it were put to death by a sword a world war but will live again and given a new image like unto a Leopard. Revelation 13:3-14 Even he the United States is the eighth [authority] and is a member of the seven[th] Revelation 17:11

THE UNITED STATES A WORLD POWER

And I beheld another, a different beast coming up out of the earth [America] Revelation 13:11 not the sea [Europe] He had two horns President and Vice President and a policy like a lamb [Christian observance] but speaks like a Dragon a Super Power! And his power shall be mighty but not by his own power and shall prosper allied with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization “a 28 Power coalition

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in2thelight

You are very confused......Let me help you out........

Revelation 13:1 "And I [John] stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."

This is John's vision, and the sea that John is standing on and the beast is rising out of represents the masses of peoples of the world. This symbol of the "sea" being people is documented in Revelation 17:15. This "sea", or masses of people are looking to this "beast" [political beast] as their peace system. The "seven heads" are seven dominions of the people, or seven continents of this world body; as even the activities and divisions at the North and South Poles are governed through the United Nations Charter. It covers the entire world land masses.

"Horns" are always symbolic of "power". These "ten horns" are ten agencies, or units of power flowing from this beast, or political system. These horns are the Military force, the world health organization, UNICEF for children, the world bank, the world court, and so on. This is very similar to the system of government given in Genesis 11, under Nimrod.

Revelation 13:2 "And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."

Though the one world political system is in place and functioning as a governing body, after it is considered reliable, something will come about to bring down that government.

Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

One of the ten countries in the leadership of the beast "were wounded unto death". How does a office, or government of a country die? Of course in that the political system falls apart. That government then comes back to life. Why? The whole world comes to it's defense to prop it's government up. This can done because the whole world is under the same "one world system".

It was the beast that healed it's own wound. It doesn't take to much thinking to see what nation of immense strength fell, and then was propped up by the world wide system of this political beast. Billions of U.S. and British tax dollars went to Russia, as a gift from the world bank [the world system], and not the American people. Other nations also gave in the name of this Satanic system. All the while the beast received the credit for the donation, for the purposes of the agenda of the political beast.

Revelation 13:4 "And they worshipped the dragon which [because he] gave power [his authority] unto the the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

The political beast has another head, and it is the head of an religious beast. When the authority behind this political beast arrives on earth, at that time the people of the world will call him "saviour". That authority [in verse two] is Satan, the dragon, and he is cast onto the earth by Michael.

The "head wound" is not to an individual then, but to a "political system". When one of the major players drops out of that system, it will be in serious trouble of ending. We see also that if the system is world wide, no one could make war with it, for their all part of it.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power [authority] was given unto him to continue forty and two months."

When Satan has arrived to rule over this beast, or one world system, and out of his mouth will come all sorts of lies and blasphemies. He has power only because he was given that power and authority from God, as we saw in Revelation 9:1. Now note how long it is for: "forty two months". Remember, all times given in days are given to the children of God of the light, while all times given in months or moons pertain to Satan and his system of darkness. Revelation 9:5, 10 let us know that this time has been shortened to five months for the elects sake.

Daniel 8:22-24 tells us that Satan comes in peacefully, and prosperous, and those within his system will have the same prosperity. Who can fight that promise?

Revelation 13:11 "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

This beast coming up out of the earth looks like a Lamb [Jesus Christ], yet he speaks like a dragon; because he is the dragon [Satan]. He claims to be Jesus, and most Christians will believe him. He has plenty of sweet talk, blessings, wealth and what ever valued price you put on your soul, to sell your soul. Have you thought of what price you would put for your soul?

Revelation 13:12 "And he exerciseth all the power [authority] of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."

Satan [the Antichrist] uses all the power and authority he has, because it is given to him by God. God allowed the "one worldism" to take place, because it is in God's plan. He gave us that plan, and that is what we are studying now. It is Satan that will cause the wounded political beast, "one world system" to come back together after it falls apart. Then that system, and all the people on the face of the earth will worship Satan. All, except the elect of God, and those sealed in their minds.

Revelation 13:13 "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men."

Revelation 13:14 "And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles [signs] which he had power [it was given him] to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live."

This is the whole object for the great tribulation. "DECEPTION"! Satan is going to make an image of this "one world system" [religious beast] and breath life into system. Their will be something symbolic created within the system that will cause the whole world to bow. This reminds me of the "image" created in Babylon's "one world government" under king Nebuchadnezzar, in Daniel 3. At that time there were only three that would not bow to the image.

http://www.theseason.org/revelation/revelation13.htm

As you should see,the 2nd beast is satan himself


Very good observation Brother,I like your words for they are faithful & true about the U.N.,The World Bank & this New World Order political system! You preatty much hit the nail on the head! Very impressive!
About the Revelation 13:2 description of the authority from the dragon given unto the seal of this system,have you ever seen the Royal & RothsChilds families crest or Coat of Arms.It is also a description of their seal & they are the ones running this system-check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyYtRXKgfc

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Very good observation Brother,I like your words for they are faithful & true about the U.N.,The World Bank & this New World Order political system! You preatty much hit the nail on the head! Very impressive!
About the Revelation 13:2 description of the authority from the dragon given unto the seal of this system,have you ever seen the Royal & RothsChilds families crest or Coat of Arms.It is also a description of their seal & they are the ones running this system-check this out:

You speak all nonsense!

God don't give a hoot about the UN. There are only three enemies which count which are satan, sin and death. All three have been destroyed. All other enemies are benign.

Again it's a good thing for you that we are not under the old covenant for you would have been stoned long before now.

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Well it looks like Rome was mentioned. Then Rome took over England and we came out of England. Maybe we're one of the little horns?

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Maybe we're one of the little horns?

Hi Captain Shays
It depends on whether you ever had the "old man sin nature" cast out of yourself or not. Thus the following statement ONLY applies to believers because only true believers have the "unclean spirit" of the "old man sin nature" cast out when we first come to Christ. And according to the doctrine of Yeshua that unclean spirit always returns to his former "house" seeking rest, (unfortunately we are the "house" made without hands and so it is a time of trial and tribulation). But first that old man uncleand spirit goes and takes to him seven others more wicked than himself:

Luke 11:24-26 KJV
24. When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25. And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26. Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

Would that not make the first one "the eighth and of the seven" and does that phrase not sound familiar? Therefore be aware that the old man sin nature scapegoat does in fact return at a later date with all the sins upon his head: for a final Atonement must be made with him, and he brings seven others more wicked than himself. And that one has two horns like a lamb but speaks like a dragon; two eyes like a man, and a mouth speaking great things...
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You speak all nonsense!

God don't give a hoot about the UN. There are only three enemies which count which are satan, sin and death. All three have been destroyed. All other enemies are benign.

Again it's a good thing for you that we are not under the old covenant for you would have been stoned long before now.

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I already told the MODS that I am not going to have this insulting another Christian game also with you! I've done apologized to raggthyme & daq & asked for their forgiveness!  ::bowing::

1st off,I know God doesn't care about them devils! Duh,I didn't know those were the only 3 enemies of God & man!
If Satan has been destroyed,then why do people keep doing evil & worship Satan...huh?
If sin has been destroyed,then why do people keep sinning...huh?
If death has been destroyed then why do WE keep dying...huh?

 Do you even know what benign means? My Webster's dictionary of 1916 says that benign means
(of a gentle disposition:GRACIOUS).So you're basically saying our enemies which are the Satanist & anti-Christ's are gracious & gentle.You're crazy man,gain some intellect & wisdom before you go flopping those lamb chops...little man!

I just simply agreed with in2thelight,what are you going to stone him too for me quoting what he said & me acknowledging his opinion about the U.N. & the banking system instead of your preterist rubbish! Grow up man...gesh!
Like I've stated also,you're not big enough or mean enough to step up to me...boy!
You do know that Jesus said "You who is without sin,cast the 1st stone",and you're still a sinner with your wrath for saying that evil against me because you don't like my beliefs! To bad so deal with it,you don't run this forum & I can guarantee if I asked around,people would agree with me on that statement!
So stop bad mouthing me & others,I don't pick out your wild ideals of what you think God's word means to you...do I?
You're not the most righteous man if you're going around making death threats about stoning people...are you?
You are to forgive people like Jesus says in Mark 11:26 & not to be angry for wanting to stone people!
If you make that comment to me one more time or try to pick a fight,I'll play by the rules on this forum & I will report you to the MODS! Whoever teaches you that preterist bull,you need to question their beliefs & yours!!!
One of the MODS even said that people like your idealism is far-fetched!
Why do you got to prove your religious point of views but no one else can...huh?
Do you know deep down what God wants,no you don't because you are NOT Him...bucko!
I also notice on your picture under your name that you have a carved image of whoever that is,isn't God against that since you know Him so much-Exodus 20:3 & 4!  ::doh::

I think you need to take these passages in at the bottom there Bro!



                                                    "There are DIVERSITIES OF GIFTS,but the same Spirit.
                    There are DIFFERENCES OF MINISTRIES,but the same Lord.And there are DIVERSITIES OF ACTIVITIES,
                                                              but it is the same God who works ALL IN ALL!"
                                                                       ---Paul,1 Corinthians 12:4-6


              "Conscience,'I say,not your own,but that of the other.For why is my liberty judged by another man's conscience."
                                                                       ---Paul,1 Corinthians 10:29


                        "To whom He was not announced,they shall see;And those who have not heard shall understand."
                                                                             ---Paul,Romans 15:21


                                         "Therefore let us not judge one another anymore,but rather resolve this,
                                             not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother's way."
                                                                             ---Paul,Romans 14:13


                   "For he is God's minister to you for good.But if you do evil,be afraid;for he does not bear the sword in vain;
                                     for he is God's minister,an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil."
                                                                              ---Paul,Romans 13:4
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Very good observation Brother,I like your words for they are faithful & true about the U.N.,The World Bank & this New World Order political system! You preatty much hit the nail on the head! Very impressive!
About the Revelation 13:2 description of the authority from the dragon given unto the seal of this system,have you ever seen the Royal & RothsChilds families crest or Coat of Arms.It is also a description of their seal & they are the ones running this system-check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyYtRXKgfc



Thanks for the link,as I also understand who is now and will be running this one world system when it comes......

Here is a link I think you would like very much,please note that Im not in total agreement,however I think you will get those parts that Im not....Again thanks for the link.........

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Please let me know what you think............


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No, most emphatically no!
No one really knows for sure---there is a lot of speculation that the EU will champion the cause along with the Whore of Babylon in combination with the Beast. Look to Rome! Forget the created Futurism by the Jesuits and remember your old "Reformer" fathers! Very Important................

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No, most emphatically no!
No one really knows for sure---there is a lot of speculation that the EU will champion the cause along with the wh*re of Babylon in combination with the Beast. Look to Rome! Forget the created Futurism by the Jesuits and remember your old "Reformer" fathers! Very Important................

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Thanks for the link,as I also understand who is now and will be running this one world system when it comes......

Here is a link I think you would like very much,please note that Im not in total agreement,however I think you will get those parts that Im not....Again thanks for the link.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2CVAnRByfg

Please let me know what you think............




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Yes,I seen that one! The Vatican uses the Christianic side of the beast system & has been invaded by the Illuminati or Freemasons since Pope Paul VI was ordained on June 21st(longest day of the Sun in which they worship) in 1963.Check these 2 pages out!!!

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1623.cfm

http://www.forbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/vatican_secret_societies.htm

The 21st of June is also Prince Williams birthday,who is also a 33rd degree Freemason.The Vatican,the Royal & RothsChilds families have their ties with each other unto this beast(anti-Christ),Luciferian system! I told my nephew one time about 2 months ago that the IMAGE of the Beast will be a Hologram in the churches when the New World Order forces Mandatory SUNday worship! Well just about a month ago me & him ran into this video & he flipped out & I swear I had never seen this video! Guess who the father of this Beast that I claimed is & everyone in the world will love this young man,check out the whole 10 minute video:

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This is just my opinion but I think Pope John benedict XVI is the false prophet described in Revelations or the next one after he probably rolls over to the grave!
Heck it shows Pope Paul II when he was the Pope sitting on a throne with an upside down cross about 10 years ago after 9/11!

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                                                   This is to the NWO-Illuminati-Freemason secret society scum!

                      "For the wrath of God is REVEALED FROM HEAVEN against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men,
                                                               WHO SUPPRESS THE TRUTH in unrighteousness."
                                                                             ---Apostle Paul,Romans 1:18
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If Satan has been destroyed,then why do people keep doing evil & worship Satan...huh?

They worship satan out of superstition. Paul told the saints at Rome that God would crush satan under THEIR feet SHORTLY (romans 16:20). It's done! Your belief system is based in superstition and NOT in the biblical facts.

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If sin has been destroyed,then why do people keep sinning...huh?

The destruction of sin was about its MASTERY over us being broken and NOT about its eradication. What Bible do you read? Sin will NEVER be eradicated. Isaiah saw sin and sinners in the new earth (Isaiah 65:20).

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If death has been destroyed then why do WE keep dying...huh?

God's people don't go to be bound in sheol anymore. They go straight to be with Christ. Jesus said, "He who believes in me shall NEVER die." Paull said that He "HAS ABOLISHED death" (past tense), 2 Timothy 1:10.

You need to start all over again by abandoning all your preconceived notions.

The only enemies that count are sin, satan and death and they ALL have been defeated. All other enemies are benign.

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This is a long read if you go to the website, but very informative if you want to know truth. This is just a small excerpt of the 14 points of identity of the Papacy taken from the Bible.

When you study the features of the Beast, you’ll see that it inherited all the features of its predecessors, namely the body of the Leopard (Greece see Daniel) not for its swiftness but its cruelty and the many Greek philosophies the Roman church brought into Christianity. The feet of the bear (Media/Persian Empire), the mouth of a lion, i.e. Babylon. (Note, the pope claims also to have inherited the title Pontifex Maximus or in short ‘pontiff’ directly from Babylon) and of course the dragon himself (Satan) gave him the power, seat and great authority (Rev.13: 2 cf.12:9). The Beast is said to continue for 42 months (Rev 13:5) which of course is the 1260 years of cruel papal reign.

3 ½ Times – Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

The Lunar Calendar used in the Bible has a 30 day month; therefore the year is counted as 360 days
(This 360 day lunar year also accounts for the reason there are 360 degrees in the compass)

360 days times 3.5 years = 1260 days or years

His number 666 can easily be worked out from his many titles, one of which is ‘Vicarius Filii Dei’ meaning ‘in the place of God.’  Indeed' the pope has taken the place and name of God by calling himself ‘holy father’. (See also (2Thess.2) vicar=short for, in place of, and Dei=short for Deity.
 
In Roman/Latin numerals, V=5, I=1, C=100,  A=0,  R=0,  I=1, U=5 (same as V),     S=0.  Total= 112
F=0, I=1, L=50, I=1.  I=1.  Total=53 
D=500, E=0, I=1.  Total=501.  Grand Total= 112+53+501=666

Rome had total control from 538AD – 1798 which equals 1260 years
Time, times and a half time. The 1260 years end with a Head Wound to Papal Power. The "head wound" to papal power was inflicted in 1798 when General Berthier of France captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. Wound Heals and Papal Power is Restored. Napoleon had closed down the Catholic Church and the Papacy, its power was thought to be forever broken. The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to the Pope and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty. Today the Vatican (a church), has formal diplomatic relations with almost every country in the world.

Fourteen Points of Identity of the Papacy from the Bible
http://www.pacinst.com/nslaw/chapter3/antichrist.html





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His number 666 can easily be worked out from his many titles, one of which is ‘Vicarius Filii Dei’ meaning ‘in the place of God.’  Indeed' the pope has taken the place and name of God by calling himself ‘holy father’. (See also (2Thess.2) vicar=short for, in place of, and Dei=short for Deity.
 
In Roman/Latin numerals, V=5, I=1, C=100,  A=0,  R=0,  I=1, U=5 (same as V),     S=0.  Total= 112
F=0, I=1, L=50, I=1.  I=1.  Total=53 
D=500, E=0, I=1.  Total=501.  Grand Total= 112+53+501=666

TO ALL,

The number 666 has no reference to an individual but is the numerical designation for all of sinful mankind. The Greek literally says that it is the number of MAN and not of a man.

Recent translations have rendered it as "man" and not "a man." The number 666 refers to all of sinful mankind and NOT to a particular individual.

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His number 666 can easily be worked out from his many titles, one of which is ‘Vicarius Filii Dei’ meaning ‘in the place of God.’  Indeed' the pope has taken the place and name of God by calling himself ‘holy father’. (See also (2Thess.2) vicar=short for, in place of, and Dei=short for Deity.
 
In Roman/Latin numerals, V=5, I=1, C=100,  A=0,  R=0,  I=1, U=5 (same as V),     S=0.  Total= 112
F=0, I=1, L=50, I=1.  I=1.  Total=53 
D=500, E=0, I=1.  Total=501.  Grand Total= 112+53+501=666

TO ALL,

The number 666 has no reference to an individual but is the numerical designation for all of sinful mankind. The Greek literally says that it is the number of MAN and not of a man.

Recent translations have rendered it as "man" and not "a man." The number 666 refers to all of sinful mankind and NOT to a particular individual.

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I never said 666 belonged to just one person, but that it's a Papal system that makes up many members as being only puppets of Satan's rule in them as listed below.

Black Pope (not in color, but in black as evil) Count Peter Hans Klovenback, the 29th and current Superior General of the Society of Jesus, who resides in Romes headquarters of the Jesuits called the Church of Jesu near the vatican and also the headquarters of the Knights of the Malta which is Vatican City, proper.

Khazarian Zionists, (came up with the name Jew to hide their adoptive hetitage)

PHYSICIAL POWER STRUCTURE OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER
the Trilateral Commission
Bilderbergers, commitee of 300, 17 weathiest elite familes
Rothchilds in England
Rockerfellows in America
Bronfman's in Canada
Mossad who controls the Israel government

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I never said 666 belonged to just one person, but that it's a Papal system that makes up many members as being only puppets of Satan's rule in them as listed below.

I did not say that you said it was just one person. I was just clarifying.

It cannot be the papal system because that came into existence long after the recipients of hte Revelation lived and died. It had to be something they knew about in their time. The book had to make sense to them FIRST.

It was the apostate Jewish system.

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@thinker

Why can't you just leave people be?

Are you seriously here to cause strife among other Christians?

Just curious,how old are you?

Just curious,are you part or a member of a secret society or have a preacher that is,can you ask him?

Do you know what the 1st Amendment is? And let people believe the way they want to believe & say what they want to say without you picking out their quotes just to belittle people!

Why do you think you're God?-You don't know everything about the Bible especially if you can't spell accurately

Some of US don't care about your preterist beliefs or more like DETERist(to turn aside,discourage,or INHIBIT which means to hold in check or to discourage from free activity or speaking)! You know God didn't make US the same & don't want US to be robots that are programmed to be alike religiously to Him except US believing in Him & His Son that He sent! Let people have their own form of beliefs...man!

Why can't you just back off of people Bro...seriously?

What do you get out of all of this?

How do you sleep at night always arguing with other Christians if you care about God,Christ & US?-stop turning people away from God with your beliefs because that's what you're doing but I'm not going to let you push me or others away!!!


Like I said that Paul stated at the bottom & if you respect God,Christ & other Christians & the Word just read them please!


                                    

                                          "Now we have recieved,not the spirit of the world,but the Spirit of God,
                                    that we might know the things that have (BEEN FREELY GIVEN TO US BY GOD)."
                                                                  ---Apostle Paul,1 Corinthians 2:12


           "There are (DIFFERENCES OF MINISTRY),BUT THE SAME LORD.And there are (DIVERSITIES OF ACTIVITIES/Preaching),
                                                            but it is THE SAME GOD who works ALL IN ALL."
                                                                  ---Apostle Paul,1 Corinthians 12:5 & 6

                                                              
                                                   Thank You,Peace & God Bless my friend!  ::pray::
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Why can't you just leave people be?

Are you seriously here to cause strife among other Christians?

Just curious,how old are you?

Just curious,are you part or a member of a secret society or have a preacher that is,can you ask him?

Do you know what the 1st Amendment is? And let people believe the way they want to believe & say what they want to say without you picking out their quotes just to belittle people!

Why do you think you're God?-You don't know everything about the Bible especially if you can't spell accurately

Some of US don't care about your preterist beliefs or more like DETERist(to turn aside,discourage,or INHIBIT which means to hold in check or to discourage from free activity or speaking)! You know God didn't make US the same & don't want US to be robots that are programmed to be alike religiously to Him except US believing in Him & His Son that He sent! Let people have their own form of beliefs...man!

Why can't you just back off of people Bro...seriously?

What do you get out of all of this?

How do you sleep at night always arguing with other Christians if you care about God,Christ & US?-stop turning people away from God with your beliefs because that's what you're doing but I'm not going to let you push me or others away!!!


Like I said that Paul stated at the bottom & if you respect God,Christ & other Christians & the Word just read them please!


                                    

                                          "Now we have recieved,not the spirit of the world,but the Spirit of God,
                                    that we might know the things that have (BEEN FREELY GIVEN TO US BY GOD)."
                                                                  ---Apostle Paul,1 Corinthians 2:12


           "There are (DIFFERENCES OF MINISTRY),BUT THE SAME LORD.And there are (DIVERSITIES OF ACTIVITIES/Preaching),
                                                            but it is THE SAME GOD who works ALL IN ALL."
                                                                  ---Apostle Paul,1 Corinthians 12:5 & 6

                                                              
                                                   Thank You,Peace & God Bless my friend!  ::pray::

Warrior,

I am not whining about you challenging my views. So why are you whining? The scripture says to be ready to give an answer to them who ask you a reason of the hope that is in you. So be ready and don't whine about it!

You said that satan, sin and death have not been destroyed. I answered you and now you're whining about it. The only enemies that count are those which could have power over God's people. All other enemies are benign. Only satan, sin and death could have power over God's people.

Question: Do satan or sin or death have power over God's people now? If you say "no" then you admit that these enemies have been destroyed. If you say "yes" then you're no "prophet" of God.

God don't give a hoot about the U.N. or any other so called "enemies" because they are NOT a threat to the people of God. The ONLY enemies that were a threat to the people of God were satan, sin and death. They ALL have been destroyed. Paul said that Christ "has abolished death" (past tense, 2 Timothy 1:10). He also said that death was to be the "LAST enemy to be destroyed." Therefore, the U.N. is totally meaningless to God.

Stop whining! Either answer the arguments put to you or just get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat.

I am prompted to say that your views are in no way christian. Anyone who scares God's people about the U.N. or anything is NOT an oracle of God. You call yourself "Warrior" but you fight enemies that have no power.

It is a good thing for you that we live under God's new covenant!

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@thinker

Why can't you just leave people be?

Are you seriously here to cause strife among other Christians?

Just curious,how old are you?

Just curious,are you part or a member of a secret society or have a preacher that is,can you ask him?

Do you know what the 1st Amendment is? And let people believe the way they want to believe & say what they want to say without you picking out their quotes just to belittle people!

Why do you think you're God?-You don't know everything about the Bible especially if you can't spell accurately

Some of US don't care about your preterist beliefs or more like DETERist(to turn aside,discourage,or INHIBIT which means to hold in check or to discourage from free activity or speaking)! You know God didn't make US the same & don't want US to be robots that are programmed to be alike religiously to Him except US believing in Him & His Son that He sent! Let people have their own form of beliefs...man!

Why can't you just back off of people Bro...seriously?

What do you get out of all of this?

How do you sleep at night always arguing with other Christians if you care about God,Christ & US?-stop turning people away from God with your beliefs because that's what you're doing but I'm not going to let you push me or others away!!!


Like I said that Paul stated at the bottom & if you respect God,Christ & other Christians & the Word just read them please!


                                    

                                          "Now we have recieved,not the spirit of the world,but the Spirit of God,
                                    that we might know the things that have (BEEN FREELY GIVEN TO US BY GOD)."
                                                                  ---Apostle Paul,1 Corinthians 2:12


           "There are (DIFFERENCES OF MINISTRY),BUT THE SAME LORD.And there are (DIVERSITIES OF ACTIVITIES/Preaching),
                                                            but it is THE SAME GOD who works ALL IN ALL."
                                                                  ---Apostle Paul,1 Corinthians 12:5 & 6

                                                              
                                                   Thank You,Peace & God Bless my friend!  ::pray::

Warrior,

I am not whining about you challenging my views. So why are you whining? The scripture says to be ready to give an answer to them who ask you a reason of the hope that is in you. So be ready and don't whine about it!

You said that satan, sin and death have not been destroyed. I answered you and now you're whining about it. The only enemies that count are those which could have power over God's people. All other enemies are benign. Only satan, sin and death could have power over God's people.

Question: Do satan or sin or death have power over God's people now? If you say "no" then you admit that these enemies have been destroyed. If you say "yes" then you're no "prophet" of God.

God don't give a hoot about the U.N. or any other so called "enemies" because they are NOT a threat to the people of God. The ONLY enemies that were a threat to the people of God were satan, sin and death. They ALL have been destroyed. Paul said that Christ "has abolished death" (past tense, 2 Timothy 1:10). He also said that death was to be the "LAST enemy to be destroyed." Therefore, the U.N. is totally meaningless to God.

Stop whining! Either answer the arguments put to you or just get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat.

I am prompted to say that your views are in no way christian. Anyone who scares God's people about the U.N. or anything is NOT an oracle of God. You call yourself "Warrior" but you fight enemies that have no power.

It is a good thing for you that we live under God's new covenant!

thinker

thethinker these things that God shows us in scripture is not to scare us, but to prepare us for what must come first before the return of Christ.

Job 1:6  Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 1:7  And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Job 1:8  And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Job 1:9  Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Job 1:10  Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
Job 1:11  But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
Job 1:12  And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

1Co 15:50  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51  Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54  So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55  O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Co 15:56  The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1Co 15:57  But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 15:58  Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

1Peter5:8  Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

I use these scriptures to show that Satan, sin and death are very much alive today as Satan works through those who are unaware of his devices to try and destroy those who are in Christ by the only method he has, which is to try and destroy our faith. Satan will always have rule over this earth until Christ returns and makes a final end to Satan's abominations as Satan has no victory over them who are in Christ. Christ also calls us to be watchman and to know the signs of Christ return. What do you think Rev, Ezekiel, Daniel, etc. etc. are all about if God did not call us to be a watchman and learn how to discern the times before Christ return. I would rather be prepared for what must come so I will not be taken as a thief in the night unprepared for Christ return. Some people do not want to know what must come and that's their choice, but when I receive that knowledge from the Holy Spirit I am also called to share that knowledge. I have never asked anyone to agree with me, but search it for themselves. I am a watchman and always will be unto the coming of the Lord.

Mat 24:43  But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Mat 25:13  Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Mat 26:41  Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Luke 21:36  Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
2Ti 4:5  But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
Rev 3:3  Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

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Warrior,

I am not whining about you challenging my views. So why are you whining? The scripture says to be ready to give an answer to them who ask you a reason of the hope that is in you. So be ready and don't whine about it!

You said that satan, sin and death have not been destroyed. I answered you and now you're whining about it. The only enemies that count are those which could have power over God's people. All other enemies are benign. Only satan, sin and death could have power over God's people.

Question: Do satan or sin or death have power over God's people now? If you say "no" then you admit that these enemies have been destroyed. If you say "yes" then you're no "prophet" of God.

God don't give a hoot about the U.N. or any other so called "enemies" because they are NOT a threat to the people of God. The ONLY enemies that were a threat to the people of God were satan, sin and death. They ALL have been destroyed. Paul said that Christ "has abolished death" (past tense, 2 Timothy 1:10). He also said that death was to be the "LAST enemy to be destroyed." Therefore, the U.N. is totally meaningless to God.

Stop whining! Either answer the arguments put to you or just get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat.

I am prompted to say that your views are in no way christian. Anyone who scares God's people about the U.N. or anything is NOT an oracle of God. You call yourself "Warrior" but you fight enemies that have no power.

It is a good thing for you that we live under God's new covenant!

thinker

Mr. thinker



Once again the word BENIGN means(of gentle disposition:GRACEFUL),enemies to Christians are NOT gentle & graceful!
Pick up a dictionary from time to time & learn some vocabulary before you throw words out if you don't know what they mean!
Bro you are the most arrogant,self-pompous,moronic monkey on here! I don't know about others but I am not afraid or threatened by Satan,I just hate him or whatever you say that he is! And if you think Jesus saying "To love your enemies" to Satan & his followers,you're an idiot because I don't think Jesus or God wants US to love Satan or them!

Oh,God doesn't give a hoot about the demonic governmental entity of the U.N.,our country & the U.S. government,the Luciferian Royal & RothsChilds families,the pedophilic Vatican church.What do you think He loves the U.N. or the New World Order?
You're something else!

Have you ever been into Satanism or seen a demon conjoured up...huh?

Have you seen what a real wooden Ouija board can do when you start channeling demonic spirits...huh?

Have you ever seen a wiccan or warlock use spiritual telekinesis or shadow-puppeting by knocking a solid object from a table just by only touching the shadow forecasted on the wall?

Well I have when I use to be into wicca when I was a teenager & it would scare the crap out of you blindman or boy! If you seen these things,you wouldn't be going around saying Satan & his fallen angels don't exist! So who's the real Christian if your saying Satan isn't a real spiritual entity...huh?

Once again if sin has been destroyed why do people keep sinning & God allow Satan & his temptation of sin permitted unto US?-because they have not been destroyed capadre! Wasn't you the one that said"Oh,Warrior didn't see in Revelations 1:9,where it says John was in the tribulation when Christ came back"? Well you didn't look at the next passage in verse 10 where John says
"HE WAS IN THE SPIRIT" not in the Flesh when he had that vision of the tribulation...wacko! How could he be in spirit when he was in the tribulation if he was alive in the flesh when he wrote that...huh? From what I see,nobody except the ones that are into your beliefs have your back & that isn't many!

Once again if death has been destroyed,why aren't WE living with Christ to rule & live with Him for eternity if the 1,000 year reign has come & went like what's stated at the end in Revelations 20:4...huh?

Sorry but you are a moron,who's not Christian or an anti-Christ if your going around basically telling people that God or Jesus has  left US here or forgotten US to suffer all this evil crap going on in the world! Just like that Debbie_55 said,i'm not going around to scare any other brother's & sister's but to WAKE UP people & get them ready or prepared for the New World Order like the Watchman that God wants people like me to be which is what's stated in Ezekiel 3:17 & 18! You know when God or Jesus spoke,it wasn't just of the past or the present but of the future also...dingbat! God doesn't go by our time,so if He says coming soon,it's not in our time but His time in which is described in 2 Peter 3:8!!!
Awhhhh,what's the matter,are you afraid to go into a NWO FEMA Death Camp,getting be-headed by guillotines being made by the Military Industrial Complex to die for the Lord! You're suppose to be so tough,when i'm not afraid to die for my Lord-Jesus Christ!

I'm only fighting with enemies that have no power?

It looks like Christians like me aren't afraid of admitting the NWO-Illuminati-Freemasons exist & speaking out against them when they have all the power in America & throughout the world & can kill me for exposing them! People like you are the coward not speaking out about them,maybe you need to read what Jesus says about these Luciferians & Freemasonic priest of the pharisees in Matthew 10:26 because these secret societies are known as the Brotherhood of the Snake/Satan & have been around since Cain when he was sought out by Lucifer because they both were kicked out(Lucifer out of Heaven & Cain as a vegabond/Free-traveler or Freemason)! Yes that's right in Gen.4:17 says Cain built a city! How did he know how to build a city out of bricks & stones when they lived in tents & he was only a farmer & agriCULTurist! Lucifer & fallen angels taught Cain & his incestous family how to make stone-cutting tools,how to build fires,weapons & all kinds of other evil.Then 200 angels were kicked out when they descended on Mt. Hermon during Jared's time(5th from Adam) by doing the same thing but with the Hebrews teaching them the same thing including drugs & witchcraft! They also fornicated with women to create the Nephilim giants like in Gen.6:2 & 4 until God destroyed them with the flood which was a cleansing of the earth! And then was restarted back up with Ham's descendents! I bet you didn't know that since you only study the Bible or some other man teaching about Preterism that you're following which is a deciever! Like I said about when I was into Satanism,you know God does use people like me to expose lies from these diabolical devils! Uhm,helloooooo...look at Moses who murdered an Egyptian slave-driver,Paul who murdered dozens if not hundreds of Christians only to use him for the gospel! He's not going to use you who has only known God all of his life apparantly! Why do you think He allows US to fall off the path only to bring His sheep back! Go do some research or read some other books about spirituality,maybe you'll get smarter about religion!

I bet you'd be one of those idiots that tried stoning Jesus if you was back in that time when He said He was the Son of God...wouldn't you?
Once again you're threatening me with being stoned when you're not sin-free,and if the MODS send me another email about my temper or violence,THEY BETTER SEND YOU ONE TOO BY MY NEXT COMMENT!
You know I wished WE could meet face to face because by the time you went to pick a stone up,i'd be on you faster than lightning with a stone on the end of my arm...called a fist in your throat,
watching you lose the gift that God gave man...YOUR BREATH & LIFE!!! ::frustrated::

You need to take this in also at the bottom here because that's what you're doing by not allowing me to expose these Luciferians!!!






              "For the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven AGAINST ALL UNGODLINESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF MEN,
                                            (WHO SUPPRESS THE TRUTH/you Mr. thinker) IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS!"
                                                                          ---Paul,Romans 1:18  


By the way,your name says it all (thinker) instead of knowledge! Also again what is that picture of that statue of a man with his head on his hand under your name-it's called a carved image & "you shall have no other gods before Him"!-Ex.20:3 & 4-Thank You
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1Co 15:50  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51  Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54  So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55  O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Co 15:56  The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1Co 15:57  But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 15:58  Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

1Peter5:8  Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

I use these scriptures to show that Satan, sin and death are very much alive today as Satan works through those who are unaware of his devices to try and destroy those who are in Christ by the only method he has, which is to try and destroy our faith. Satan will always have rule over this earth until Christ returns and makes a final end to Satan's abominations as Satan has no victory over them who are in Christ. Christ also calls us to be watchman and to know the signs of Christ return. What do you think Rev, Ezekiel, Daniel, etc. etc. are all about if God did not call us to be a watchman and learn how to discern the times before Christ return. I would rather be prepared for what must come so I will not be taken as a thief in the night unprepared for Christ return. Some people do not want to know what must come and that's their choice, but when I receive that knowledge from the Holy Spirit I am also called to share that knowledge. I have never asked anyone to agree with me, but search it for themselves. I am a watchman and always will be unto the coming of the Lord.

Mat 24:43  But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Mat 25:13  Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Mat 26:41  Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Luke 21:36  Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
2Ti 4:5  But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
Rev 3:3  Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.




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THANK YOU!

The 1 Peter 5:8 is the best one you've thrown out there! If Satan was destroyed by Christ after the descension,well then how did Peter who was alive after Christ's death say that the devil/Satan walks about like a roaring lion! Another thing too is these Preterist are saying that Jesus came in the time of John in 70 A.D.,when there's Biblical scholars that say John might not have written that Book of Revelations in 70 A.D. but that he could've wrote it in 95 A.D.,shows how much they really know! They are breaking Jesus's rule of law where He says in what you've stated in Matthew 25:13 &
Matthew 24:36,
"Of that day and hour (NO ONE KNOWS),NOT even the angels of Heaven,but MY FATHER ONLY".

And they're going around saying that Christ & the Revelations happened in 70 A.D. & i'm being questioned by a certain individual that i'm not a Christian or that I don't know my Bible! They better look in the mirror! It just imazes me how they doubt all this New World Order propaganda but are quick to jump on these kinds of post to dis-claim or doubt US with their rhetorical preterist rubbish!

So Thank You Debbie_55 & nice job with those scriptures & have added manna to you!

Peace & God Bless!
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I bet you'd be one of those idiots that tried stoning Jesus if you was back in that time when He said He was the Son of God...wouldn't you?
Once again you're threatening me with being stoned when you're not sin-free,and if the MODS send me another email about my temper or violence,THEY BETTER SEND YOU ONE TOO BY MY NEXT COMMENT!
You know I wished WE could meet face to face because by the time you went to pick a stone up,i'd be on you faster than lightning with a stone on the end of my arm...called a fist in your throat,
watching you lose the gift that God gave man...YOUR BREATH & LIFE!!! ::frustrated::


WHOAA!! Perhaps one of the smileys below is more appropriate!



And don't say i didn't warn ya about those Girgashite Warriors!
He'll tell you he is "the one is" but like spots on a leopard he's Legion!



And just so you know: Never said all those things you mentioned were not going to happen! Heck, I probably helped write much of the book on those things over the past twelve years. However, you are a day late and a dollar short: there is nothing you can do now but tell people how to know Christ and be ready to stand before him soon...  ::smile::



On a hill far away stood an old rugged cross,
The emblem of suffering and shame;
And I love that old cross where the dearest and best
For a world of lost sinners was slain.

So I'll cherish the old rugged cross,
Till my trophies at last I lay down;
I will cling to the old rugged cross,
And exchange it some day for a crown.

O that old rugged cross, so despised by the world,
Has a wondrous attraction for me;
For the dear Lamb of God left his glory above
To bear it to dark Calvary.

In that old rugged cross, stained with blood so divine,
A wondrous beauty I see,
For 'twas on that old cross Yeshua suffered and died,
To pardon and sanctify me.

To that old rugged cross I will ever be true,
Its shame and reproach gladly bear;
Then he'll call me some day to my home far away,
Where his glory forever I'll share ...

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And just so you know: Never said all those things you mentioned were not going to happen! Heck, I probably helped write much of the book on those things over the past twelve years. However, you are a day late and a dollar short: there is nothing you can do now but tell people how to know Christ and be ready to stand before him soon...  ::smile::





You're right daq,I never said that you did say that you didn't agree!

You're right also,that I should help those that don't believe in Christ to lead them to God or Jesus,I have done & have been doing that! I converted a friend that never believed in Jesus,last night I just talked to a neighbor who's Agnostic & let him borrow my Passions of the Christ because I shared to him my knowledge on the Word & the things i've known from my fallen path but have been back on the straight path from the last few years to my hero & real idol-Jesus Christ!
Like the Lord said that it's,"Those who are well no need of a physician,but those who are sick."-Matthew 9:12
I'm just tired of someone or anybody threatening me with violence like stoning me or people.Jesus didn't want anybody being stoned by a rock-John 8:7!
Here's the thing though,people in todays time don't use stones-they use bullets as a substitute but you don't see me saying to another Christian that I want to shoot them for not agreeing with me.

Me & you made amends,why can't this guy let all this fighting go instead of making himself Holier-than-thou or that he's higher in knowledge than any other Christian?
Or him trying to tell me that I'm not Christian or that I don't love Jesus Christ when I would die for Him? Hasn't Jesus said that "There's no greater love but for a man to lay down his life for his friends!"-John 15:13
I would do that for God,Jesus,thinker,& you because We should be Brothers & not fight & argue! I'm not saying you do with me anymore.I'm just talking in general with all of US that believe & worship God & the Son!

Like John says in 1 John 2:22"Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is anti-christ who denies the Father and the Son."
I admit God is real & exist,I admit Jesus is the Son of God & that He loved & died for me & that God sent Him for that purpose & I do worship & love them! If I didn't I would plainly say so because I'm not afraid of no man except the Lord who is above ALL!
I'm tired of arguing with another Christian when WE are suppose to agree that WE love Jesus & to fight Satan instead of ourselves!


                           

                        "An evil man seeks only rebellion,Therefore a cruel messenger will be sent against him!"
                                                         ---Proverbs of Solomon,Proverbs 17:11


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Hasn't Jesus said that "There's no greater love but for a man to lay down his life for his friends!"-John 15:13
I would do that for God,Jesus,thinker,& you because We should be Brothers & not fight & argue! I'm not saying you do with me anymore.I'm just talking in general with all of US that believe & worship God & the Son!

Ahh that is more like it friend ... If you will lay down your life for Yeshua and for your friends then take up your own cross, KNOW the truth, and SPEAK it freely and speak it according to the Scripture. It is not about whether the United States will be ruling the NWO because this country has already been doing so since the end of WWII. Look around you: certainly if you speak the Truth you will lay down your life for many there be which will hate you for it.

Yeshua Bless your Bread of Life and Living Water!  ::smile::


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Hasn't Jesus said that "There's no greater love but for a man to lay down his life for his friends!"-John 15:13
I would do that for God,Jesus,thinker,& you because We should be Brothers & not fight & argue! I'm not saying you do with me anymore.I'm just talking in general with all of US that believe & worship God & the Son!

Ahh that is more like it friend ... If you will lay down your life for Yeshua and for your friends then take up your own cross, KNOW the truth, and SPEAK it freely and speak it according to the Scripture. It is not about whether the United States will be ruling the NWO because this country has already been doing so since the end of WWII. Look around you: certainly if you speak the Truth you will lay down your life for many there be which will hate you for it.

Yeshua Bless your Bread of Life and Living Water!  ::smile::




You're right there my Brother & I have added manna to you for words of encouragement! You're right also about the NWO have been ruling the world using the United States since the end of WWII starting in the Israeli Treaty of 1948,then the Jews going back to the homeland starting in 1949! Just like Daniel 9:2,saying that he got word from the Lord through the prophet Jeremiah of God allowing desolation of Jerusalem for 70 years!---1949 to 2019,it looks like this year of 2012 & then adding the 7 year tribulation might be the coming of the end of these 7 years! It looks like WWIII is shaping up with Israel wanting to go to war with Iran which will be Israel,U.S.,U.N.,NATO,E.U.  V.S.  Iran,China,Russia,Pakistan,India & Korea since North & South have been united! Hopefully the Lord will be coming to stop all this madness that's been & will be going on...soon!