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« on: Sat Nov 15, 2008 - 11:33:38 »
As a Pastor I'm sure that you can relate to how important it is to have the right temperature in our churches.. Man what a challenge, some like it cold, some like it hot, it seems to be a non ending battle.. We finally put the little cages over the thermostats and gave out only 3 keys, then we made blankets available.... But my question is not with temperature but atmosphere... How do you set the atmosphere in your church.. Do you use upbeat music, videos, smiling greeters, etc.  We recently put coffee and danishes in our foyer about an hour before service starts.. It has really helped in bringing people early and they are making friends, etc.. It seems to really be helping... I'd love to hear what some of you do.... By the way, we are in the south in a small community with about 125 in attendance.. I say this because I know that size sometimes determines what you can and can't do..

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« Reply #2 on: Fri Mar 20, 2009 - 22:43:35 »
Smiles and kindness goes a long way. We as Christians are called to be good to one another. But church isn't really about cookies, coffee, flashy screens or "ambiance" - it should be Christ-centered. It is good to be hospitable, of coarse. But people should be coming to church to worship fully and that is hard to do with a danish and coffee in your hand.

Fellowship after service is always nice, greeters at the door, ushers to seat or assist. Standards, simple, but tried and true.

Best wishes to you, pastor. :)

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Re: Church atmosphere
« Reply #3 on: Sat Mar 21, 2009 - 00:22:14 »
pastordanny,

You are certainly moving in the right direction.   A warm, welcoming environment opens hearts to worship and hear the Truth.  We have determined that the only offense in our place will be the offense of the cross.  We want the people who are our guests to hear laughter and upbeat music, see smiling, happy faces, and smell coffee when they walk in our doors.  We offer an opportunity to experience a serious faith in a casual atmosphere. 

Keep up the good work!

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« Reply #4 on: Fri Mar 27, 2009 - 12:49:17 »
It is good to be hospitable, of coarse. But people should be coming to church to worship fully and that is hard to do with a danish and coffee in your hand.

Respectfully, I disagree. The NT church was built around home groups and table fellowship. It wasn't just worship time. It was getting together to share life, dinner, and while doing that we talk God-talk and worship and pray.

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« Reply #5 on: Tue Apr 07, 2009 - 22:16:06 »
As a Pastor I'm sure that you can relate to how important it is to have the right temperature in our churches.. Man what a challenge, some like it cold, some like it hot, it seems to be a non ending battle.. We finally put the little cages over the thermostats and gave out only 3 keys, then we made blankets available.... But my question is not with temperature but atmosphere... How do you set the atmosphere in your church.. Do you use upbeat music, videos, smiling greeters, etc.  We recently put coffee and danishes in our foyer about an hour before service starts.. It has really helped in bringing people early and they are making friends, etc.. It seems to really be helping... I'd love to hear what some of you do.... By the way, we are in the south in a small community with about 125 in attendance.. I say this because I know that size sometimes determines what you can and can't do..

blessings, Danny

I love the blankets idea. 

We have a little over 200 every Sunday, but our foyer is awfully small for much in the way of danishes and coffee.   The Methodist Church in town has a huge foyer, and if we had that, you can bet we'd have something to eat and drink back there! lol  We have that in the fellowship hall before Sunday School and small groups, but in the sanctuary, it's mostly upbeat Christian contemporary music, video announcements, and  a bunch of people walking around visiting with everyone. 

It certainly helps that many of our elders and deacons (and others) make a point to greet folks, so it's not only official greeters, but many others who will shake someone's hand.  Our service is less formal and less rigid, but in southern Missouri, that fits our communities and culture much better.  I'm pretty much the only guy with a suit and tie on Sunday.  (edit:  I'm one of two actually)

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« Reply #6 on: Thu Apr 16, 2009 - 11:24:40 »

I'm pretty much the only guy with a suit and tie on Sunday.  (edit:  I'm one of two actually)
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If you're the only one, then why do it? Isn't it easier to connect with people and minister to them when they see you dressing like them (as long as it's modest, of course)?  ::smile::

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« Reply #7 on: Fri Apr 17, 2009 - 12:07:22 »
I'm not a pastor nor a churchgoer. I haven't attended church in nearly three years. Every church I attended became a discouragement. I learned nothing from any of them. I had more and more problems with their doctrines. I just couldn't understand what was going on. Was it just me? My wife and I have had our problems over the years. It's still not peaches and cream by any stretch. So, one day we decided to see the pastor of the church we were attending regularly. He recommended that we get a divorce!! That cinched it. We left and haven't been back since.

And then one day the LORD led me to Family Radio and Harold Camping. Since then I've been convinced that the Bible tells the Elect to get out of church. Matthew 24:15-18 tells us, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes."

Then again in Mark 13:14-16, Christ repeats this Stern warning: "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:  And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein , to take any thing out of his house: And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment."

There's also this: "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?"

Church is a very dangerous place to be. Check out these two web sites for far more information than I could ever give. And it's all free. (Link Removed Per Forum Rule 3.3)

May the LORD richly bless you...

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« Reply #8 on: Mon Apr 20, 2009 - 22:17:14 »
I'm not a pastor nor a churchgoer. I haven't attended church in nearly three years. Every church I attended became a discouragement. I learned nothing from any of them. I had more and more problems with their doctrines. I just couldn't understand what was going on. Was it just me? My wife and I have had our problems over the years. It's still not peaches and cream by any stretch. So, one day we decided to see the pastor of the church we were attending regularly. He recommended that we get a divorce!! That cinched it. We left and haven't been back since.

And then one day the LORD led me to Family Radio and Harold Camping. Since then I've been convinced that the Bible tells the Elect to get out of church. Matthew 24:15-18 tells us, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes."

Then again in Mark 13:14-16, Christ repeats this Stern warning: "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:  And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein , to take any thing out of his house: And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment."

There's also this: "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?"

Church is a very dangerous place to be. Check out these two web sites for far more information than I could ever give. And it's all free. (Link Removed Per Forum Rule 3.3)

May the LORD richly bless you...




many radio programs are just as dangerious as many church's. And if the church or a radio preacher has their own doctrines rather than Christ's . leave both.
Their really is not a lot of bible believing churches out their now days.
 if you find one you should join it because sooner or later if they are not joined there may be none around to find ;and that would be bad for
the younger generation to.
God hates divorce so were glad your still married .




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« Reply #9 on: Wed Apr 22, 2009 - 14:37:29 »
If you're the only one, then why do it? Isn't it easier to connect with people and minister to them when they see you dressing like them (as long as it's modest, of course)?  ::smile::

Good question.  For me it's because it's also important in this community and in this church to do your job with professionalism and effort.  Dressing down can also give the appearance here of not caring about your job, and being lackadaisical in your approach.

My wife has a dress code at the bank where she works, and the school administrators who attend here wear a shirt and tie when they work.   

While my suit and tie (not flashy by any means) is not required, and sometimes I just wear the tie, it also doesn't detract from the worship service.  Dressing down by our ministers actually does detract with some folks, while wearing business attire doesn't seem to bother anyone at all.

 


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« Reply #10 on: Wed Apr 22, 2009 - 14:53:00 »
Rick Warren once said something that is so simple it's profound - "It takes all kinds of churches to reach all kinds of people."

The most common question I am asked by people who are thinking about visiting our church is "Do I have to 'dress up'/Can I wear jeans?"  The answers, btw, are "Of course not/Sure you can"

I've lost count of how many people have said to me, "We love the fact that you [I'm the pastor] dress just like everyone else."

Our "dress code" fits who we are and who we're trying to reach.  There are some people who wouldn't be comfortable if they didn't wear "Sunday best" type clothing to church.  They are certainly welcome here, but they'll probably decide that another church is a better fit for them.  And that's OK - we are a church for anybody, we just may not be the church for everybody.

There's room and a place for all kinds of churches - dressy or casual, high church or low, contemporary or traditional - and everything in between.

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« Reply #11 on: Wed Apr 22, 2009 - 19:40:44 »
Do you have to be bald to be a good preacher?

A lot of preachers are bald, like my dad, and some other posters here.

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« Reply #12 on: Wed Apr 22, 2009 - 20:31:03 »
Absolutely amazes me, the gist of these discussions. Pastors of churches voicing concerns about "atmosphere" and "coffee and donuts," or providing blankets, or even such weighty decisions as wearing a suit. And then we have those who criticize "radio preachers" as "dangerous!" I doubt seriously that any effort has been made to study what they preach to see if it is just possible that the radio preacher is speaking truth and knows what he is talking about. Nah!!

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« Reply #13 on: Wed Apr 22, 2009 - 22:40:16 »
Chill bro. lol  Radio preachers can easily be dangerous when they preach false doctrine or doctrine that causes and promotes division in the church.

God calls preachers to do many things, but one of the primary ones is to guard the flock from false doctrine.  So contrary to your doubts, I bet a lot of the guys in here study plenty.

Oh, you should know, I AM a radio preacher.  And a congregational one too.

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« Reply #14 on: Wed Apr 22, 2009 - 22:46:51 »
Rick Warren once said something that is so simple it's profound - "It takes all kinds of churches to reach all kinds of people."

The most common question I am asked by people who are thinking about visiting our church is "Do I have to 'dress up'/Can I wear jeans?"  The answers, btw, are "Of course not/Sure you can"

I've lost count of how many people have said to me, "We love the fact that you [I'm the pastor] dress just like everyone else."

Our "dress code" fits who we are and who we're trying to reach.  There are some people who wouldn't be comfortable if they didn't wear "Sunday best" type clothing to church.  They are certainly welcome here, but they'll probably decide that another church is a better fit for them.  And that's OK - we are a church for anybody, we just may not be the church for everybody.

There's room and a place for all kinds of churches - dressy or casual, high church or low, contemporary or traditional - and everything in between.

Yeah I agree, I don't mean to sound like I think everyone should dress like I do.

Besides, I'm not a dressy/flashy guy anyway.  I try to look professional on Sunday (based on our community's expectations and partly because I just like to) but I'm mostly just being me.  Cowboy boots, Dallas Cowboys watch, really cool "relgious" ties...  :-) 

I think a preacher should be himself, while not detracting from the message.  Whatever that is works in my opinion.  People get used to how you dress.  The message is the key.

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« Reply #15 on: Thu Apr 23, 2009 - 11:01:22 »
Chill bro. lol  Radio preachers can easily be dangerous when they preach false doctrine or doctrine that causes and promotes division in the church.

God calls preachers to do many things, but one of the primary ones is to guard the flock from false doctrine.  So contrary to your doubts, I bet a lot of the guys in here study plenty.

Oh, you should know, I AM a radio preacher.  And a congregational one too.

Yeah, "bro," I am chilled. Matter of fact my blood drops to 32 degrees when I see the apostasy within the churches. Having looked over this web site, I see why.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-12,"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come , except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let , until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him , whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

1 Peter 4:17-18, "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?"

Matthew 24:15-17, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:" I've seen him. I see and hear him every day. Not in church, because I no longer go to church. But I'm surrounded by him, the "him" being Satan himself, the antichrist. And it gives me chills up and down my spine.

But I thank God that there is a refuge from all of this deceitfulness and lies and false doctrines and "prophets." It's called the Bible, God's Holy Word. THAT is the authority on this planet. Everything else is just an opinion. "Who hath ears to hear, let him hear."

May the LORD richly bless you...



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« Reply #16 on: Thu Apr 23, 2009 - 21:14:39 »
Yeah, "bro," I am chilled. Matter of fact my blood drops to 32 degrees when I see the apostasy within the churches. Having looked over this web site, I see why.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-12,"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come , except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let , until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him , whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

1 Peter 4:17-18, "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?"

Matthew 24:15-17, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:" I've seen him. I see and hear him every day. Not in church, because I no longer go to church. But I'm surrounded by him, the "him" being Satan himself, the antichrist. And it gives me chills up and down my spine.

But I thank God that there is a refuge from all of this deceitfulness and lies and false doctrines and "prophets." It's called the Bible, God's Holy Word. THAT is the authority on this planet. Everything else is just an opinion. "Who hath ears to hear, let him hear."

May the LORD richly bless you...




Thus claiming to be chilled, he continued yelling. -Hezekiah 15:23

You need to answer a basic question or two:

1.  Why can't PREACHERS who PASTOR CHURCHES discuss church atmosphere with each other? 

2.  Do you really think that everyone on this message board agrees with everyone on this message board?  I sure don't.  There are plenty of false teachings expoused by people on this board and I argue with them.  So why attack everyone?  You don't know what I believe.

Besides, I'm on the radio so I must be ok...

Obviously there are false churches and false teachings.  The Bible teaches there will be a falling away, but Jesus ALSO said there will be wheat and tares in the same garden.  The tares will be burned, the wheat will be brought into God's house, but you are treating all churches and the people here as if they are all tares.  They aren't all tares.




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« Reply #17 on: Fri Apr 24, 2009 - 13:13:11 »
I'm pretty sure that donuts in the lobby don't qualify as apostacy. Now asparagus, that would be a different issue completely!   ::crackup::

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« Reply #18 on: Sun Jun 28, 2009 - 21:13:33 »
What has been mentioned is clearly not "apostacy". Fact is, Ministers have the toughest time with memberships fighting amongst each other and against each other instead of against Satan, the real foe.

Its getting people's attention off this physical world we live in, and concentrated upon things of the spirit that needs to be dealt with.

The "greeters", donuts and coffee, ushers, etc are all good for drawing people and making them feel welcome and comfortable in our churches. But.. theres also the message we are speaking or portraying otherwise.

Visitors to churches won't find much belief in them if walk in to find members gossiping, arguing, speaking negative of others, etc. Ministers with these constant problems in thier Churches, see a problem and need to change thier assessment of Sermons shared, to those that will touch the hearts of the Members in a way to turn negatives to positives.

Remind those complaining of the heat to thank God they aren't freezing like we do here, or those too cold, to thank God they aren't sweating to death.

If they want to continue to complain, tell them to donate money for changing the temperature, otherwise, be "satisfied in whatever state they are in".

I've been a Christian Minister and Councilor nearly 30 years, and there are always Scriptural basis for problems many Ministers can't seem to apply. I don't understand thier lack of using God's Word strait forward with thier Members when needed, to curb propogating further of those problems.

Have Ministers come under such scrutiny from thier District or main HQs, they cannot speak and witness God's Truth in troubled times, for fear of losing Members or income?

I'd rather be speaking God's Truths than to hold back and constantly witness problems getting slowly worse over time. thats probably why one friend of mine and I are known as "Tail Twisters" in our Churches.

Speak the Truth and you'll have less problems between your Members and speak more or start more "Discipleship" programs, in order to teach your older Members how to take on teaching the younger Christians in your church, plus more ideas I could share.

God Bless!!

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« Reply #19 on: Thu Jul 09, 2009 - 00:33:24 »
Except for the fact that absolutelynumb doesn't appear to have a place of fellowship, nor want one, I suppose I could find reasons to feel welcome at most of your fellowships. 'Tis a shame though that what we wear and what we eat becomes contentious -- even here.

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« Reply #20 on: Fri Oct 02, 2009 - 17:05:21 »
I'm not a pastor nor a churchgoer. I haven't attended church in nearly three years. Every church I attended became a discouragement. I learned nothing from any of them. I had more and more problems with their doctrines. I just couldn't understand what was going on. Was it just me? My wife and I have had our problems over the years. It's still not peaches and cream by any stretch. So, one day we decided to see the pastor of the church we were attending regularly. He recommended that we get a divorce!! That cinched it. We left and haven't been back since.

And then one day the LORD led me to Family Radio and Harold Camping. Since then I've been convinced that the Bible tells the Elect to get out of church. Matthew 24:15-18 tells us, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes."

Then again in Mark 13:14-16, Christ repeats this Stern warning: "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:  And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein , to take any thing out of his house: And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment."

There's also this: "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?"

Church is a very dangerous place to be. Check out these two web sites for far more information than I could ever give. And it's all free. (Link Removed Per Forum Rule 3.3)

May the LORD richly bless you...



Harold Kamping is a false teacher.  It seems you have gone from the frying pan into the fire.  I agree with another poster that there are still some die hard Bible believing churches out there and when you find one, stay.  It will be up to you to keep the doors open.  They are becoming more rare as time goes by because of the end times "itching ears" syndrome prophesied.  The smaller churches are usually small because people have left to hear "feel good" messages.  Pastors who stick to biblical truth are the most persecuted and you can hear the doors of those churches closing shut for good all over our nation.  Support truth speakers and seek them out.  Your attendance may be the reason they stay open.  Your absence may contribute to the pure Word going underground, and for those who seek a place to hear the Word, that would be disastrous.  It's hard to find a home church.