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I think I'm a pew sitter... should I worry?
« on: Sun Jul 12, 2009 - 23:53:58 »
In my life I struggle with a mundane and boring job and a dissatisfaction with my inability to produce something worthwhile from my art.  These things take up a lot of my attention.  Over all this is my desire to be closer to God and to spend as much time as I can stoking the fires of my passion for him and his way.  As an aside I also have times when I lack energy and to help with that I try to exercise a few times a week.    ::sleepingsoundly::

When I go to church I look for a place where I can rest in God spiritually, emotionally, and physically.  I like to just sit in the pew and rest and spend time with the Lord.  I have a desire to be involved and to help and encourage others, however I find that when I'm asked to do activities in the church, and if it interferes with my need to sit and relax and renew my energy, then I feel even more tired and going to church becomes just another chore and I find it very easy not to go at all.    ::doh::

I don't want to be just another pew sitter, but at the same time I feel overly burdened when I'm asked to do some things.  I haven't spoken about this to my Pastor because we are only a small church of 20 max and many have burdens, so I don't want to come across to him as just another burdened person.  I want to be encouraging and helpful in my attitude, because I know he's tired too and does a lot of work.       ::clappingoverhead::

Am I being selfish? Do I need an attitude adjustment?  If so, how can I get that?
Or should I tell the Pastor the truth and admit I'm not going to be much help to him at all? Which is pretty disappointing to have to admit, even to myself...       ::shrug::

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Re: I think I'm a pew sitter... should I worry?
« Reply #1 on: Mon Jul 13, 2009 - 00:29:16 »


        Joan I read your post and i'm going to tell you something you already know.  All churches are not the same some of them are so boring sll they want or deserve are pew sitters.  Others are dynamic,filled with the Holy Spirit.  I wouldn't tell you what to dp
forany thing, but you could seek and find a more dynamic church that would stimulate your interest and keep you awake.
May GOD bless you and keep you,
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« Reply #2 on: Mon Jul 13, 2009 - 23:55:54 »
Thank you for your response, walker starr.  It was unexpected.  I hadn't even thought of that option. 

I'm sure God wants me where I am.  This morning God spoke to me through his word and told me that I need to trust him to give me the energy and ability to accomplish the tasks he sets for me, rather than striving to take care of these things myself, which leads to a self centered life and to missing opportunities to serve him.

Turns out what I needed was an attitude adjustment after all.   ::smile::

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Re: I think I'm a pew sitter... should I worry?
« Reply #3 on: Tue Jul 14, 2009 - 15:58:59 »
Praise GOD ,Joan,you prayed and received what you needed.  Often when we think we know what we need HE knows
better and HE lets us know it too.  Thank you JESUS,AMEN. ::smile::

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Re: I think I'm a pew sitter... should I worry?
« Reply #4 on: Sun Jul 19, 2009 - 18:32:28 »
 Joan hi, Mary sitting at the feet of Jesus has it points. I am a Martha, I found a VBS, not my church that I could volunteer at arts and crafts. Why? I like it, I love kids, teach kids, love arts and crafts. If it is something you love it is more enjoyable. I am also out going and smile alot.

 Now to you, not being self focused, but found it necessary to tell you that to help you understand how someone that is quite, shy, does not, get involved much helped my spirit with her quite walk.

I missed church a couple weeks back, and am going through some storms. I shut my eyes, and saw, this quite girl, in my minds eye. She always in her quite way, smiles, and hugs me, at meet and greet and I realized I missed her, the Sunday I missed church. She is very plain ( Beautiful in the Lord though), not a flashy dresser, and speaks softly. I was so encouraged by her friendliness to me I told her the next Sunday. I think me telling her encouraged her. (LOL) God is good.

That sunday, our Senior pastor quite elderly, preached, and said while praying God just ask him to do one thing. Smile more, be more friendly. I thought wow. A simple act of kindness, to other members, or to the world makes a big difference in Gods world. We have Marthas and Marys, and both are good. ::clappingoverhead::

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Re: I think I'm a pew sitter... should I worry?
« Reply #5 on: Tue Jul 21, 2009 - 06:38:10 »
Lightshineon,

You have given me something to think about... 

Thank you for the word of encouragement.  :)

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« Reply #6 on: Tue Jul 21, 2009 - 13:50:07 »
Lightshineon,

You have given me something to think about... 

Thank you for the word of encouragement.  :)

 I think just "BE", and tell the Lord you are willing, and he will use you in simple, or complex ways. The simple ways seem to matter most sometimes. BTW you are welcome. ::smile::

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Re: I think I'm a pew sitter... should I worry?
« Reply #7 on: Tue Aug 18, 2009 - 12:43:43 »
if you are worried about being a pew sitter, then perhaps that is Gods call on your heart,
and you arent interpeting it right, and are instead taking that word and turning it on yourself in a self judgement sense.

try this... sign up to be part of a prison ministry. enter in with no pre-fixed plans,
or "things you would like to share" and simply sign up, and just be.

go with the flow, talk to whever approaches you, and learn. watch. pay attention
to the words spoken around you, for words are clues to teh heart, and the word in you
will point to the intents of the heart.

the word and spirit in you will detect and discern and from there, you will learn to flow with Gods spirit as you learn to interpet the language He is speaking.

its not about your works. its about his works in and through you. you dont need to be a trained "pro". come as you are, and reach out. you may get bit. so what. love anyhow.

you may get mocked, slandered, analiized and critiqued by the "frozen chozen"
love them anyway. dont bother with witty answers and deep theoligical answers.
just speak from the heart when it is time to speak, be it 1 on 1 or to the whole crowd.

in teh mean time offer help however they neeed.

if prison ministry is a little harsh, try a street ministry.

or anything that is ouside the structured church, and your social comfort zones.

God is calling you. i discern it. and you are mis understanding the word coming to you.
chill out. dont take that word and beat yourself with it. instead, take a baby step.

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Re: I think I'm a pew sitter... should I worry?
« Reply #8 on: Sat Aug 22, 2009 - 11:36:07 »
You may also be overscheduled in your week.

Try to streamline.  Cut back stuff if it's unimportant, and go for smaller time commitments in a given week or month.

See what happens.

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Re: I think I'm a pew sitter... should I worry?
« Reply #9 on: Fri Oct 02, 2009 - 16:55:28 »
In my life I struggle with a mundane and boring job and a dissatisfaction with my inability to produce something worthwhile from my art.  These things take up a lot of my attention.  Over all this is my desire to be closer to God and to spend as much time as I can stoking the fires of my passion for him and his way.  As an aside I also have times when I lack energy and to help with that I try to exercise a few times a week.    ::sleepingsoundly::

When I go to church I look for a place where I can rest in God spiritually, emotionally, and physically.  I like to just sit in the pew and rest and spend time with the Lord.  I have a desire to be involved and to help and encourage others, however I find that when I'm asked to do activities in the church, and if it interferes with my need to sit and relax and renew my energy, then I feel even more tired and going to church becomes just another chore and I find it very easy not to go at all.    ::doh::

I don't want to be just another pew sitter, but at the same time I feel overly burdened when I'm asked to do some things.  I haven't spoken about this to my Pastor because we are only a small church of 20 max and many have burdens, so I don't want to come across to him as just another burdened person.  I want to be encouraging and helpful in my attitude, because I know he's tired too and does a lot of work.       ::clappingoverhead::

Am I being selfish? Do I need an attitude adjustment?  If so, how can I get that?
Or should I tell the Pastor the truth and admit I'm not going to be much help to him at all? Which is pretty disappointing to have to admit, even to myself...       ::shrug::

It looks as if God is dealing with you.  Yes, you need an attitude adjustment, but there is more.  From what I am reading, you are suffering from depression and that can cause you to lack energy.

Let me give you another view outside of yourself.  In a small church, responsibilities fall on just the few - let's see - I pick up and distribute food at our food bank, am the church secretary, read the scripture before the sermon and on top of that, teach Sunday school and lead the music!!!  I did not ask for any of these responsibilities but no one else volunteered and we have a couple who even said they wouldn't do anything at all.  They just want to sit in the pew and listen to the sermon, then go home.  We have a lady who is in her 80's teaching children's church because no one else will do it! 

Here is the question - are you attending church to be served or to serve?  Do you believe that doing nothing but coming and receiving the Word of God is enough?  If you are disabled, of course you can.  But if you are relatively healthy, the church needs you!  You have no idea how difficult it is for just a few to handle and maintain the workings of the church. I would gladly forfeit any of the responsibilities I have if God would provide the church with those gifted in "helps."

I think if you would understand how much your help is appreciated (even if they take it for granted - God knows) you would be more energetic, less depressed, and find the closeness you want in relationship to God.  He wants you to put self aside and think of others and this is not a "Mary/Martha" situation either.  If you are being taken out of the service to do mundane tasks, that would apply.  The body of Christ is a working body - pew sitters are saved, but to ignore the needs of the church in favor of "rest" sounds a bit self-serving.  Sorry, but I have first hand experience in this one.  Also remember, if the pastor asks you to help in some way, it's because he trusts you. 

God bless you.



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Re: I think I'm a pew sitter... should I worry?
« Reply #10 on: Fri Oct 02, 2009 - 17:20:53 »
Ms joan:

Hi, great to see you here.

There are maybe two distinct issues.

One's relationship with the Lord Jesus, as taught by the Bible: by faith we can be cleansed from our sin and know fellowship with Him and with the Father (1 John 1); having a desire for fellowship with Christ and God the Father in due course leads to a meaningful desire for fellowship with others who have had a similar experience of the saving grace of God (Acts 2.42).

Then there is you really excellent desire to excell at your artistic talents. I don't think you mentioned the sort of art in which you are engaged. Some art is specifically faith related; some is not. There are all sorts of art, of course: oil painting, watercolors: often in a locality or municipality there are special painting workshops which can be useful either to learn personally or if not to have the opportunity to encourage others to develop their skills; did you ever go on one? One of my relatives went on such a painting workshop and found that people at all sorts of levels were working at it together, for mutual artistic stimulus and benefit. Then there are variations on artistic activities, sculpture, design: have you been to galleries or workshops regularly? there are parlors where fine, colorful tattoo designs can be seen - did you ever visit such a parlor? - some specifically faith related. Local libraries are also often resource centers for all sorts of useful activities and opportunities for developing artistic talents, and talking to artists can sometimes encourage individuals to renew dedication and flair. I hope you are able to be stimulated in a significant way, and see your artistic interests enhanced.

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« Reply #11 on: Fri Oct 02, 2009 - 20:12:41 »
Joan,

Christ set up His church to be interdependent on one another:

For just as we have many members in one body and all the members do not have the same function, so we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another. Since we have gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, each of us is to exercise them accordingly: if prophecy, according to the proportion of his faith; if service, in his serving; or he who teaches, in his teaching; or he who exhorts, in his exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness. Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil; cling to what is good. Be devoted to one another in brotherly love; give preference to one another in honor; not lagging behind in diligence, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord; rejoicing in hope, persevering in tribulation, devoted to prayer, contributing to the needs of the saints, practicing hospitality.
(Rom 12:4-13 NASB)

You are part of the Body of Christ and therefore accountable to God and your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.  Some will call this a "Mary/Martha" situation, but it is not.  Mary was sitting at the feet of Jesus while Martha put the tasks above the worship and teaching of the Word of God.  I don't see that you do this - in fact just the opposite.

I'm sorry for being so blunt, but you should serve, and yes, I will tell you this because God's Word says you should use your gifts for His glory and for the building up of the church!  My answer to you must be from the Word of God and you should pray about it and allow God to answer this for you.

And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ; until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love." (Eph 4:11-16 NASB)

So, the answer to your question is found in the Word of God.  It does no good for anyone to tell you that being a pew sitter is a good thing, that it's okay.  It's not.  We are so afraid of offending someone by our words that we sometimes neglect to give a scriptural answer! But God says we must speak truth to one another and that doesn't mean just words of encouragement to continue in the same pattern that is neither good for us or the Body of Christ. 

You have a talent.  I am also an artist and do what I call "scripture paintings."  Maybe you can teach the children to paint in Sunday school?  Offer to make posters?  How about face painting for special events?  Can you write "thank you notes" or be responsible for sending birthday greetings?  There are so many creative ways to serve.

You need to ask God to direct you and I would suggest that you look at what could build up the Body of Christ through your service.  The question is not "should I" serve, but how.

P.S.  I don't think switching churches is the answer either unless the teaching is heretical.  You have been placed in this church to grow.  Love the people you fellowship with.  ::groupprayer::

A Pastor's Wife





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« Reply #12 on: Fri Oct 02, 2009 - 20:32:34 »
Well, we have many non-Christians who do.  ::frown::

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« Reply #13 on: Sat Oct 03, 2009 - 15:19:38 »
Well, we have many non-Christians who do.  ::frown::

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« Reply #14 on: Mon Oct 05, 2009 - 02:05:27 »
I don't think there's anything to worry about...... until the Last Day.

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« Reply #15 on: Fri Apr 16, 2010 - 17:38:48 »



   Why not just relax and enjoy the sermon. ::smile::

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   Why not just relax and enjoy the sermon. ::smile::

First there's gotta be something to enjoy!  rofl

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« Reply #17 on: Tue Apr 27, 2010 - 23:45:03 »
Joan,
If your looking for a quick and easy way to solve your energy crisis then I believe I may be able to help you.  In order to get your energy up to a level that you are comfortable with I would suggest that you look into taking natural herbs and herbal supplements.  I suffered from naturally low levels of energy all of my life until I discovered the world of Herbs.  Trust me, many legal herbs are sold at health stores throughout the country that safely and effectively increase ones energy level, therefore allowing that person to accomplish more of the things that they would like to do.  I don't care what anyone says, it is perfectly in-line with the teachings of Jesus to take naturally occurring plants and to use them to better yourself (that's why they exist!). After all, its not what goes into the mouth that defiles a man, but its that which comes out of the mouth that defiles him.  The things that I have accomplished on behalf of my church and Christ since I began taking herbs is something that I am very proud of and I know that I wouldn't have felt like doing any of them if I just had the usual cup of coffee in the morning.  Good luck and God bless.

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« Reply #18 on: Tue Nov 02, 2010 - 01:40:23 »
The church or the lack of "dynamics" are not responsible for how one feels. If you are going to get something from God you are not there for the right reason. We should go to give to God not get from God. The goal of getting from God is self worship.

 

     
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