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Proper attire for church?
« on: Sat May 15, 2010 - 21:11:11 »
This is an indirect spin off from the thread about immodesty in church. On a related note - how do you handle inappropriate attire in church? IS there such a thing as inappropriate church attire? Of course I am assuming that people coming modestly dressed, that we exercise good personal hygene. How do you define appropriate attire, or does it even concern you? If it concerns you, do you address the issue?

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« Reply #1 on: Sun May 16, 2010 - 22:17:27 »
We have to smell nice, too?!? ::headscratch::



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« Reply #2 on: Sun May 16, 2010 - 22:33:32 »



   Time was when we wore suits dress shirts and ties to church.
   Now its jeans and T shirts(clean of course).
   We used shine our dress shoes.  Now its running shoes and sneakers.
   The times they aren't achangin.  They have changed.

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« Reply #3 on: Mon May 17, 2010 - 09:00:37 »
I think the way the dresscode in our time has changed has a lot to do with what people feel is proper attire. My girls always wear dresses to church. I do most of the time but occasionally I will wear dress pants and a nice shirt. I see other kids that wear blue jean capri pants & t-shirts. That's very modest but not very dressy if you me. I've also seen those same kids in dresses so I know they have "nicer" clothes.

What I tell my girls is when you go to church, you wear your "best". That is different for everybody depending on what they can afford. We have everyday clothes and then we have church clothes. I know God loves us all and some people feel that what you wear to church doesn't make a difference. Maybe it doesn't. I don't know. But to me, its an issue of respect. God is our Creator. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. I mean, how can you not want to look your absolute best for him?

How many people do you know that have an important event, business meeting, prom or even a date that go out and buy something nice just for the occasion? I've done that myself. We want to look our best for these occasions. I think we should want to look our best for church also.

Does it really concern me what other people are wearing? Not really. I don't guess I"ve ever been in a position where what someone was wearing at church bothered me enough to forget why I was there. Everyone's situation is different and maybe something a person wears bothers someone else, but it may be the best they have. I'm a daily work in progress myself. I just don't have the time to spend on worrying about what someone else wears to church. I try to teach and show my Christianity by example.

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« Reply #4 on: Fri May 21, 2010 - 13:46:15 »
This is not a critical subject, for our appearance is a matter of conscience before the Lord, and of course we should not want to stumble others.   Here is a letter that appeared in print, I think addresses this matter well.

- Seriousseeker
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A  LETTER  REGARDING  APPEARANCE
[This letter is shared here to set forth some considerations for all to honor the Lord]

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Dear sister in the Lord:

   In regard to your questions, I believe the good appearance of the saints is a testimony to all and pleasing to God.  It sets them apart from the world with its styles, fads, and vanity; and it should show us in simplicity, humility, and Godliness.  This applies also to painting the face, the nails, piercing the skin, etc; and includes all manner of clothes that reveal the body.  God hates vanity and carnality, and loves a Godly heart (Job 40:10; Matt.22:11-12; Eph.4:17-24; 1 Th.2:12; 1 Tim.2:9-10).  Appearances often reflect what is in the heart, and our attire might show indifference to our holy calling and attract attention to ourselves.  Careless dress of men or women is dishonoring to the Lord, I believe ---mainly it is conformity to the world.

   We have dress clothes and work clothes.  A saint who would attend a wedding, funeral, or come before a dignitary in proper attire, surely should not come to the table of the Lord in less suitable apparel.  Old, worn, and faded clothes, tight clothes, or clothes with worldly pictures and advertisements, should only be expected on those who can afford nothing else.  Is a wedding more worthy of our good appearance than the assembly meetings with the Lord "in the midst"?   A priest ought to be mindful of his garments. 

   Regarding your question about dresses, I will say: women should not wear that which pertains to a man (Deut.22:5). God says that for a woman to wear clothing like unto the man is an "abomination";  that is, most offensive to God who created them separate.  While that was spoken to saints of old, it is a universal principle, because God made men and women separate with separate stations and roles in life.  The woman's appearance should be as a woman and they should be pleased with their calling.

   Dresses on women show humility and reverence to God in the church (assembly), but some feel they can wear pants at home in their daily routines. The home life is mostly a matter of conscience, but the gathering of saints is on the ground of holiness as a collective testimony, which concerns all.  We do not legalize it, but we need to seek to do that which pleases and honors God, and not challenge Him.

   There is a growing rebellion over appearances in the western world today, as men and women assert themselves.  Men are being careless and even defiant, and women have begun to imitate men and challenge them.  Women certainly should be equally treated and blessed, but they have a distinct role, which they should value.  Rebellion to God's calling will bring down ruin in our lives, and surely loss of reward in a day to come for true saints of God.  I will send along a paper I have on THE WOMAN'S CALLING to show their special privileges.

Sincerely in Christ,  (RLD)


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Re: Proper attire for church?
« Reply #5 on: Fri May 21, 2010 - 14:03:23 »
At our church the dress code is: wear clothes.

We do not care what people wear.

I am the pastor and I preach in t-shirts, polos, sweatshirts, jeans, khaki's, or cargo shorts.

Man looks at the outside. God looks at the heart.

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« Reply #6 on: Fri May 21, 2010 - 22:46:06 »
I have been to two churches in my search, and both dress was casual.   If they required dresses and dress shoes, I would not be able to go. I am on a very limited fixed income. I wore my best pants and a nice long sleeved shirt. It was my best that I have.  I was very modestly dressed in the best that I have. I don't feel God minded since I did wear my best.


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« Reply #7 on: Fri May 21, 2010 - 22:48:02 »
 I like to dress nice, kind of like Marie, does actually. Now, as far as, others dress,  in my nondenominational church, people dress in all ways, and I love them all the same, and really do not notice that much. I am just glad they are there, and we love and care for one another.

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« Reply #8 on: Sat May 22, 2010 - 01:37:36 »
I dislike it when church becomes a fashion show.

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« Reply #9 on: Sat May 22, 2010 - 10:57:56 »
I dislike it when church becomes a fashion show.


 me too.

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« Reply #10 on: Mon May 24, 2010 - 17:58:32 »
I think it is sin to be focused on clothes, whether it is what I wear or what another wears.  Very Pharisaical.  "Look at me!  Do I look right?"  or "Look at them!  They should be ashamed!"  Both attitudes miss the point of gathering together.

I'm with OldDad.  I do not care.



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« Reply #11 on: Tue May 25, 2010 - 08:42:25 »
I agree with OldDad.

I wear a shirt and pants to church.


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« Reply #12 on: Tue May 25, 2010 - 16:19:11 »
Thank you. This is a topic that we have discussed recently in our home; I guess I was looking for a *reason* to dress differently for corporate worship than we do worshipping in our home, or in daily tasks (aren't our daily tasks - all that we do - to be acts of worship to Him?).

I just can't find a Biblical reason to dress in different clothes for Sunday morning worship than I do other times of the week. Yes, we dress up for weddings, for job interviews - because we are dressing to please *people*, who only see the external. God is strictly interested in our hearts. Also, I don't mind dressing up for the occasional wedding, but every Sunday morning, especially during our spring/summer/fall work season (we have a small farm) - that's a lot!

If we should give our best to the Lord for corporate worship, shouldn't we also give our best to Him 7 days a week, 24 hours a day? Would there ever be a time for wearing comfy blue jeans, since those are not my "best"?

Some of it has to do with local tradition, I think. Dress as the locals do, whether you are getting groceries or attending church. We live within driving distance of an upscale Seattle suburb. If I were to go for groceries in that area, I'd probably dress to the nines, just so I wouldn't feel out of place. Same with church in that town. However, we live out in the country, where things are pretty informal. I'd feel a bit hypocritical going to the local grocery in my blue jeans, but then changing for a trip to Sunday morning services, even though I'd likely see the same people in both locations.

In regard to the "stink factor" - we once attended church where a young man also attended. This  young individual was notable for his, uh, lack of personal hygene. I didn't mind the multicolored, spiked mohawk hairdo - that was fine. The studded "biker" jacket was fine, so were his multiple body piercings. But he reeked. Seriously. In fact, when he walked by, the odor triggered my asthma. Granted, he was a bit of an unusual case, but I wouldn't want to cause similar olfactory issues with someone else.

So - my dh and I have come to the conclusion that church attire is based more on what one is comfortable with and perhaps on local traditions rather than on Biblical principle. Biblical principles for this don't seem to exist. We exercise common courtesy, same as we would if we were going to the local grocery or hardware store: clean the mud off our boots so we don't track mud into the church building, spray on a fresh coating of antipersperant if necessary. Modesty can be an issue when wearing "dress clothes" as much as it can be for blue jeans, so that hasn't been a factor: my blue jeans are probably more modest than many dresses I've seen or worn.

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« Reply #13 on: Tue May 25, 2010 - 20:14:55 »
I live in a small town in Florida. Around here, dressing up means wear shoes instead of flip flops.  ::smile::

In any store, if you see someone wearing a dress and heels, or a man in a suit, they stand out. 

Tourists love our "we don't dress here" way of life.  People in church are dressed up here. They tuck their shirttail into their jeans.  ::crackup:: 


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« Reply #14 on: Thu Jun 03, 2010 - 21:49:31 »
This is an indirect spin off from the thread about immodesty in church. On a related note - how do you handle inappropriate attire in church? IS there such a thing as inappropriate church attire? Of course I am assuming that people coming modestly dressed, that we exercise good personal hygene. How do you define appropriate attire, or does it even concern you? If it concerns you, do you address the issue?
I wear slacks and some sort of collared shirt on Sunday mornings. I do that because I'm comfortable doing so and I think it appropriate.

I don't much care what others wear to church within the parameters of the question.

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« Reply #15 on: Fri Jun 04, 2010 - 14:16:58 »
"Cowboy Church" dress-up means kick the muck off your boots, wear your biggest belt buckle, and take off your hat during prayer.


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« Reply #16 on: Fri Jun 04, 2010 - 16:04:08 »
What makes some clothes "appropriate" for church? Why?

(By asking that question, I am obviously agreeing that immodest attire is *never* appropriate, for church, the grocery store, or a trip to the local library.)


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« Reply #17 on: Wed Jun 23, 2010 - 18:20:59 »
I am an ordained minister, but as of right now the Lord does not have me pastoring a church.  I do fill in a lot, though, and when I do I always wear a suit except on Wednesday night prayer meetings, where I wear slacks and a nice shirt.  However, when I'm at my small local church dress is a little different.  We have a number of bikers in our area, and to attempt to draw them in I have been asked by my pastor to ride my bike to church and park it right in front of the building.  This lets them know that they too are welcome to ride their bikes to attend services and they will be welcomed doing so.  I also wear my riding clothes, which is blue jeans and a collarless t-shirt along with my cut (a leather vest with a large patch on the back and smaller patches pretty much everywhere else).  I belong to the Christian Motorcyclists Association (CMA) and the large back patch is my "colors" indicating such.  I also have a patch on my vest that reads "THESE ARE MY CHURCH CLOTHES".  The idea here is for other bikers to not only feel comfortable riding their bikes, but to feel comfortable in their own attire as well.  So far this has been relatively effective.  We have 6-7 biker couples who attend services on a regular basis now and have even started a biker Sunday School class.  I don't think that God minds that I'm not wearing a suit.

I do, however, have a problem with what some of the younger kids are wearing to church.  The girls tend to want to wear what are probably expensive dresses and shirts, but they are either WAY too short, have their bellies showing, or expose entirely too much cleavage.  I hate this, but it has become a common problem for some of our youth girls.  Since nobody wants to step on any toes for fearing of causing them to leave, though, nothing is ever said by anyone in leadership positions in the church.  Just the little old ladies who sit around and gossip, followed by "bless her heart."

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« Reply #18 on: Wed Jun 23, 2010 - 20:02:18 »
From what I can tell, the Bible is generally silent on this matter, except that we should dress modestly and cover up the parts that need to be covered.

If I see a guy from the 'hood with his pants down to his knees and showing off his plaid boxers (rare, but it happens), I won't hesitate to ask him to pull up his pants.

If I see a woman sporting a plunging neckline, I will ask one of the sisters to speak to her.   ::lightsabre::

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« Reply #19 on: Wed Jun 23, 2010 - 21:27:45 »
From what I can tell, the Bible is generally silent on this matter, except that we should dress modestly and cover up the parts that need to be covered.

If I see a guy from the 'hood with his pants down to his knees and showing off his plaid boxers (rare, but it happens), I won't hesitate to ask him to pull up his pants.

If I see a woman sporting a plunging neckline, I will ask one of the sisters to speak to her.   ::lightsabre::

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« Reply #20 on: Thu Jun 24, 2010 - 05:20:10 »
If people dress modestly then I cant see that it matters what styles or type of clothes that people wear.Our church is a real mixture of jeans dresses, shirts, casual, scruffy and  smart.  Must admit I dont like it when church becomes a fashion parade of who can wear the best dress or whatever, but that is my opinion,and fortunately that doesnt happen in my church.

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« Reply #21 on: Thu Jul 01, 2010 - 09:33:04 »
I think the way the dresscode in our time has changed has a lot to do with what people feel is proper attire. My girls always wear dresses to church. I do most of the time but occasionally I will wear dress pants and a nice shirt. I see other kids that wear blue jean capri pants & t-shirts. That's very modest but not very dressy if you me. I've also seen those same kids in dresses so I know they have "nicer" clothes.

What I tell my girls is when you go to church, you wear your "best". That is different for everybody depending on what they can afford. We have everyday clothes and then we have church clothes. I know God loves us all and some people feel that what you wear to church doesn't make a difference. Maybe it doesn't. I don't know. But to me, its an issue of respect. God is our Creator. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. I mean, how can you not want to look your absolute best for him?

How many people do you know that have an important event, business meeting, prom or even a date that go out and buy something nice just for the occasion? I've done that myself. We want to look our best for these occasions. I think we should want to look our best for church also.

Does it really concern me what other people are wearing? Not really. I don't guess I"ve ever been in a position where what someone was wearing at church bothered me enough to forget why I was there. Everyone's situation is different and maybe something a person wears bothers someone else, but it may be the best they have. I'm a daily work in progress myself. I just don't have the time to spend on worrying about what someone else wears to church. I try to teach and show my Christianity by example.

While you do have a point, the Lord doesn't really look at what we're wearing on the OUTSIDE; what matters to Him is what we wear on the INSIDE.

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« Reply #22 on: Fri Jul 02, 2010 - 05:01:33 »
I think the way the dresscode in our time has changed has a lot to do with what people feel is proper attire. My girls always wear dresses to church. I do most of the time but occasionally I will wear dress pants and a nice shirt. I see other kids that wear blue jean capri pants & t-shirts. That's very modest but not very dressy if you me. I've also seen those same kids in dresses so I know they have "nicer" clothes.

What I tell my girls is when you go to church, you wear your "best". That is different for everybody depending on what they can afford. We have everyday clothes and then we have church clothes. I know God loves us all and some people feel that what you wear to church doesn't make a difference. Maybe it doesn't. I don't know. But to me, its an issue of respect. God is our Creator. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. I mean, how can you not want to look your absolute best for him?

How many people do you know that have an important event, business meeting, prom or even a date that go out and buy something nice just for the occasion? I've done that myself. We want to look our best for these occasions. I think we should want to look our best for church also.

Does it really concern me what other people are wearing? Not really. I don't guess I"ve ever been in a position where what someone was wearing at church bothered me enough to forget why I was there. Everyone's situation is different and maybe something a person wears bothers someone else, but it may be the best they have. I'm a daily work in progress myself. I just don't have the time to spend on worrying about what someone else wears to church. I try to teach and show my Christianity by example.

While you do have a point, the Lord doesn't really look at what we're wearing on the OUTSIDE; what matters to Him is what we wear on the INSIDE.
 

Often though what we wear reflects what we are like on the inside. So in my experience the most mature spiritual women dress more modestly. Also I do think that God cares what we wear just as he cares about every single other aspect of our lives.

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« Reply #23 on: Fri Sep 03, 2010 - 12:54:11 »
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What's APPROPRIATE in a specific congregation is, IMHO, largely cultural, situational and defined by the specific congregation. 

For this reason, if I'm visiting a church where I know no one to ask, I check with the website (there's RARELY helpful info there - note that church webmasters!) but without any clues, I tend to wear nice, long, dressy pants, a collared shirt and tie.  I'll add a sportscoat if it's cool.  I usually end up overdressed a bit but it's FAR better to "sin" on that side than the other.

When I was worshipping at my Dad's church (which is VERY informal), I wore shorts and a polo type shirt with my trusty Nikes.  That's just what boys and teen guys wore  - and was perfectly appropriate.  YES (noting posts above), clean and neat.  And yes, I showered before church (doh). 

My Catholic Church was just a tad (a little tad) more formal, but I just wore long pants there.  Shorts were mostly for kids, not teens. 

My current church is about the same as the church I grew up in, in this regard.  The early "Traditional" Service is more formal and the later "Contermporary" service about as informal and "laid back" as I"ve seen anywhere.  I COULD wear shorts and a T-shirt and be fine, but typically I wear long pants (even if just jeans) and usually a collared, button shirt, occasionaly with a tie but usually not.  For Easter or special services, I wear a tie and nice Khaki pants. 

I DO own a suit.  I really, really nice one.  I've worn it like 4 times - all to weddings and on a date to a very classy restaurant.



Just MY experience.



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« Reply #24 on: Fri Sep 10, 2010 - 18:43:07 »
We work do deal with inappropriate attire.  First, for any church sponsored event (outside of regular gathering) we have a dress guideline that we enforce.  This is especially useful for our youth group activities.
 
Second, we try to go to the individual.

Third, we have older members who have great influence in our church who will help teach those who are younger about dress. 

Our goal is to keep everyone thinking pure thoughts during our interactions.  We have no guideline (written or unwritten) about the kind of attire we wear (such as casual, dress, etc...).  We do however want individuals to take modest dress seriously.

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« Reply #25 on: Sat Sep 11, 2010 - 22:54:47 »

churches can asist if the parents are not sure how their kids should be dressed .

perhaps you need parenting classes at your church?

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« Reply #26 on: Thu Sep 23, 2010 - 23:32:19 »
Personally, I draw the line at spaghetti string tops and short shorts.--My wife will not let me wear them to church!    rofl

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« Reply #27 on: Fri Sep 24, 2010 - 22:19:47 »
One of the few things I miss about the old days is that people, at least the middle and upper classes, dressed up somewhat if they went out in public, whether to church or just to the store. Now what you see in public is fat rears in either shorts or faded jeans, sloppy purple tee shirts covering up a large bellies, hairy legs, five day old beards, and flip flops. That describes both men and women. Its hard to tell them apart from a distance. People watching in churches, airports, or malls is no longer any fun.

Thanks for taking time to read my tirade.

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We require beanies with propellers.

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« Reply #29 on: Sat Sep 25, 2010 - 00:08:47 »
This is an easy one... The grungiest, most torn, filthy rags you have with unkempt greasy hair, unshaven, the greasiest work boots you can find, unshowered.

Man looks on the outside but God looks at the heart.

James 2:1-13

If you go to church dressed like this and they drive you out. GOOD! You didn't want to be there in the first place.

If you go to church dressed like this and you are overwhelmed with attention-people thinkimg you are poor-FLEE!!!
You don't want to be there!

If you go to church dressed like this and people pay no special attention to you. You may know that the peace of God is in that place. Let your peace remain with you. STAY!

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« Reply #30 on: Sat Sep 25, 2010 - 00:18:31 »
1Timothy 2:9,10
I want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.

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« Reply #31 on: Sat Sep 25, 2010 - 00:49:36 »
Visionary, I think you've hit the nail on the head. Manna.

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« Reply #32 on: Sat Oct 16, 2010 - 18:08:50 »
"Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. I mean, how can you not want to look your absolute best for him?"

I could very well be wrong about this, and if I am, please correct me. Jesus did die for our sins, this is true.  Isn't He with us all the time, or is it just on Sundays in a specific building? Shouldn't we want to look and be our best at all times for Jesus?

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We require beanies with propellers.

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Re: Proper attire for church?
« Reply #34 on: Tue Dec 14, 2010 - 14:11:49 »
I think dress codes in church also have much to do with one's particular denomination and how they interpret the Word of God. There was definitely a dress code in ancient Israel for the priesthood. Their garments were made of certain materials, cut and sewn a certain way and worn and layered over one another in a particular order. The fact that Jesus was circumcised, quoted the Law in the Temple at Jerusalem when He was twelve (the Hebrew age of personal accountability) and waited until He was legally an adult male (aged 30) to begin His ministry is proof positive that He was obedient to the Jewish laws pertaining to the priesthood. I believe He attired Himself as befitting a priest when He was in the Temple or synagogue. John the Baptist was of this priesthood, yet he did not wear priestly garments but sackcloth of hair, instead. However, he did not preach in the temple but in the wilderness. He and Jesus were radical priests, in that their ministry was conducted more in public places than inside Temples or synagogues.

Like Jesus, His Apostles and members of the early church literally took the gospel message to the streets or met in one another's homes. I believe that in this type of setting, casual dress is appropriate as long as it is decent. Our church believes that all covenant members belong to a royal priesthood of God that represents Him wherever we go. Thus we wear our best when we are serving in the capacity as ministers and we dress decently and modestly on all other occasions. I am more interested in worshipping God at church than in feeling laid back and casual. I go there to bring honor and glory to Him, not to dwell upon my own comfort. As far as people not owning proper clothing, we believe that the more prosperous church members should provide for poorer ones, so that no one will suffer lack. We live in Appalachia and are well acquainted with poverty, yet I see such charitable works happening in my church all the time. No member or visitor has ever yet complained that they lack the proper clothing to wear to church.
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