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Offline gbzone

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I do not wish to teach fathers how to blow eggs.
But I do wonder what is happening to the church in general.
When I was converted  inan evangelical church in London.Later in the year I was told by the pastor ;that as to being Born again there is general agreement.But almost in all matters that follow there are a smany opinions as thier are pastors.Wether it was wise to say it does not reomeve the fact that this ios true and has been confirmed by a number of other pastors over the years.
Yet does it not say in Ephesians that that list of ministers to THE church which is His body  have but one purpose ?
The perfection of the Bride .Till we all come to a unity of the faith....." Unity at the expence of tuth is not only not unity but high treason. But if faith comes by hearing and understanding the word of God. Then it follows that to have a unity of the faith there must of nescecity be a unity of understanding also.
Yet why is it lacking so much? When throughout the church  the varios 'schools' of theology  and all the ISM 's will fight to the death  to defend thier postion yet the church is not built upthere by.
iIs itnot written that when the Spirit of truth shall come He will elad us into all truth"? How then does the church not know it? In any matter that is nescersary for the times we live in?
If the ministers do not know what it is  how then will they who they minister to?
Moreover  I one had a conversation with 3 keen zealous theolgical students and aksed them what they are taught .
They were taugth all the varois opinions  as to the last days that there are.
WHY is that?
Should not a  theological  seminar not know the truth and teach thier students how to present it?  or are they like Gamelial thought the finest theologian of his day  yet could not or would not recognise a work of God .But eithe did not know  wether the disciples were doign Gods Word and Jesus was itruth the Messiah .Or he was sittign on the fence and not willing to speak the truth as it is in fear of losing his postion.
Perhaps if he had spoken the truth  sSaul of Tarsus would have been saved earlier.? For did he not sit under him?
Pre post and no milenium etc are not all right. The timing of the rapture or translation of the bride  has to be known by the bride.Not the hour or the day bit to recognise the hour in which she lives and the like the shpeherd noting the sky lloks up for he redemption draweth nigh.
If there is such divsions  is it not for the same reasons that Paul spake of?
I am not talking about a division  between truth and error.But is it not written that with practice  we may know good form evil?
Yet little children are easyly decived. Young men are not   for the word of God dwelleth in them richly.Nor then do fathers who know him who is from the beginning.
As a church I fear we dont know God. We have but heard of Him.Even as Gidion and  Job and Moses and Isiah had.
 The days are coming  and probaly already with us  as soemhave found out. That  we are going to need to knwo Him who is from the begiining. and every child of God needs to as well.
The supreme function and primary purpose of all ministers that are given to the church...?
Even as it is written in Ephesians.

In Christ

gerald

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Re: The supreme and primary function of all ministers to the church.
« Reply #1 on: Fri Mar 15, 2013 - 15:15:53 »
There is only one primary thing for a pastor to do and that is to make disciples. While Jesus did many things during his ministry it was all centered around making disciples. His commission to us is to go an make disciples. 

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Re: The supreme and primary function of all ministers to the church.
« Reply #2 on: Sat Mar 16, 2013 - 10:41:06 »
There is only one primary thing for a pastor to do and that is to make disciples. While Jesus did many things during his ministry it was all centered around making disciples. His commission to us is to go an make disciples. 

Rusty Ford
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Isnt a pastor a shepherd?
and is not sheep who beget sheep?
Just a thought.

yet is it not written,

God has given to the church Apostles prophets pastors teacher  for the work of the ministery   etc?
Till we all come to the unity of the faith.

if faith cometh by hearing and understanding the Word of God.Then to have a unity of the faith there must needs be a unity of understanding of the scriptures. that we may be of the same mind. What mind? The mind of Christ.

If the pastors; et all are of different minds as to the scriptures how will the church be any different?

til we all come unto the perfect man ,Conformity to Christ . the perfection of the bride.

In Christ
gerald


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Re: The supreme and primary function of all ministers to the church.
« Reply #3 on: Sat May 18, 2013 - 23:22:14 »
Jud 1:18  How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jud 1:19  These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

The church has entangled itself with the world and has become compromised. Just as when Jesus came, Israel was not what it was called to be, but only a remnant followed Christ, so today the church is not what it should be. But we must not despair, or count God as not fulfilling his promise, rather God has reserved for himself a remnant.

God wants a people that is uncompromising. Men cannot serve him and Mammon. So we are called outside the camp, and there, we are gathered together in the wilderness. We must be tested, and our faith must be tried.

All this is for God's glory. Faith has to be difficult, it has to be against the current of this world, because it is based on a different world. Faith is based on the reality that is in the Spirit.

Men have given themselves titles, they have created schools that somehow qualify them to lead God's people... But as always, God will share his glory with none. The leaders of his church he will train himself in obscurity. As it was in the days of Israel, when the elders thereof did not become the leaders of God's people but more often their enemy, so it will be in this day. God gives the gifts, and God sets men up to edify and build up his body. Man only mocks God's work.

May God bless you and perfect you in Christ!  ::smile::