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« on: May 21, 2002, 06:39:52 PM »
keb, you, like me, are a seeker. I can tell you want what God would have for His people to promote unity. And maybe because I do not have a podium or am considered a preacher, my answer may not carry too much weight with you. But what is the definition of preaching? Isn't prophecy, preaching?And by prophecy, I just mean the telling of God's word. So wouldn't preaching just be allowing the Spirit to use us to say what God wants to tell His people? Isn't that how it should be? Then wouldn't we find freedom from looking for specific types of preaching and we would be a vessel and allow those around us to "preach" what God has shared and shown them? Am I too simplistic, too much an idealist? "Two or three prophets(preachers?) should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. And if a revelation (something God has revealed about His word and filled that person with?) comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop." Am I way off base? Wouldn't this strengthen and encourage the church and build them up and promote unity? Just seeking

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« on: May 21, 2002, 06:39:52 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2002, 10:18:00 PM »
seekr:  We are pretty much in agreement, I do think that one should try to be a "mouthpiece" of God--hard, and humbling, as that is.  Myself, I try to carry Karl Barth's words in my heart always b/f I speak "Is there a word from God for us, today?" preacher?

Also: I always begin by the (Reformed-faith practice of) the prayer for illumination, and I will sometimes use George Herbert's; "Oh my Master on whose errand I come, let me hold my peace and do thou speak thyself, for thou art love and when thou speakest, all here are scholars.  Amen."

Bro Bob:  I find myself, at least in the last part of lectionary for Eastertide, preaching to a church-on-the-mend, so I was quite naturally drawn to the lections from 1 Peter.  "You are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, living stones...once you were not a people, now you are a people."  My congregation was severely pastorally mismanaged b/f I arrived; I/we have picked up the pieces--though, I like it how 1 Peter finds nothing, in the secular sense, ennobling about suffering; just a Chrislikeness there to live out the promise of the baptized community.

On other things, seekr:  I agree that I am a "fellow traveler" and have hopes for uniting our people, I think that the only vehicle that that might happen among all of us is through preaching--since, all would agree, we've always been a "Word" centered (double entendre intended) people.  I recall Yves Congar's comment that if, among his Roman Catholic faith, the faithful were to hear only the sermons while in another Roman Catholic country the faithful were not to hear the Word preached, but only to have the Eucharist celebrated; the people who heard the Word only would aft/ one year be more faithful than those who had the Eucharist only.

Seems like this "preaching" topic has potential for sharing.  I hope.  

I am, h/w, fairly pessimistic anymore about the chances for reunion of our Movement; though, one should never doubt what the Holy Spirit can do; and how he will use preaching to achieve his ends.  

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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2002, 04:25:06 AM »
kebecer1, you are familiar with Frederick Buechner's illustration of the preacher in Telling the Truth, standing at the lectern, flipping on the light and dealing out his note cards like a riverboat gambler for "never have the stakes been higher."

Well, that's true.
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2002, 03:56:26 AM »
The last organized teaching I did was verse-by-verse out of the book of Daniel.  It was in support of the church kids getting ready for Bible Bowl (a 'Prep Quiz Bowl' double elimination tournament with lights/bells/Jeopardy buzzers, scoreboard, etc.).

Perhaps folks who are accustomed to getting a guideline for a preaching focus from their church organization can't just jump up and "preach" the Bible, but surely any group can teach Bible.

Whole class periods can be joyfully used up getting all the meat out of a handful of verses, especially in a book like Daniel, with its self-explaining prophcies and the clashes of cultures.

If people don't draw lessons like "God loves and cares for His own", "God has always planned for Jesus' coming" and "God is in control" from Daniel, I don't know where they can. :)
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2002, 10:37:48 PM »
In the church year, this Sunday (along w/ being Memorial Day in the secular calendar) is Trinity Sunday.  Hoooboy:  preaching on the Trinity.  In fact, I enjoy the subject--and not just as a head-trip.  I will suggest, based in a lot of patristic reading, that the Trinity is the perfect basis of Christian community--oneness and love.  It's got a way to go  yet, b/f Sunday morning, but it's getting there.  "God is one" ("Shema Yisrael...") and "God is love".  

Bro. Hendren:  I love Buttrick; do you read David H.C. Read?  His death last year so saddened me.  Another Scots preacher gone!  

I wonder:  Where do all of you preachers stand on "personal" in the sermon?  I was taught that the sermon should be perfectly objective, and the preacher never, never, never  should intimate that s/he has a spouse, children, a cat, a dog; in other words, that you're a human being.  Just plain, goofy!  Kinda stained-glassed preaching that's cleared out the pews, and made those left the Frozen Chosen, verdad?

I try to bring in some of the personal; or rather, it suffuses what I have to say in the "background"; I think we have learned a lot from NT scholarship--the parables, in particular, were so vivid b/c they WERE intimate, personal, and yes, direct.

Or, as Walter Burghardt so aptly put it:  In the end, the sermon is "I".
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2002, 04:39:56 AM »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (kebecer1 @ May 23 2002,4:37)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]Bro. Hendren:  I love Buttrick; do you read David H.C. Read?  His death last year so saddened me.  Another Scots preacher gone!  [/quote]
I have to admit that I do not really care for Buttrick that much.  His small volume "Preaching Jesus" (Fortress Press) was insightful though.   I suppose that my favorite is Tom Long, Fred Craddock and William Willomen.  For serious preaching I enjoy reading Helmut Theilike's material (How To Believe Again, Encounter With Spurgeon).  Walter Brueggemann has some good stuff as well.

Among restorationists I love the sermons of T.B. Larimore, James A. Harding and G.C. Brewer (especially his volume Christ Crucified).  One of the best sermons I have ever read is by Charles Louis Loos called "Glory in the Cross Alone" published in a volume edited by W.T. Moore in 1866 (it is also available online at Hans Rollman's restoration website).  

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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2002, 06:01:21 PM »
I am truly impressed w/ the scholarship, commitment to Christ and the truth, and sincerity of all on this site.  The congregation I serve is on the "road back" to unity and strength in Christ in spirituality and numbers; I'm finding that almost all my sermons and teaching are focused, at least subtly, on congregational renewal--personal and corporate.

I also find this pretty exhausting, being the corporate "cheerleader" and assurer that we can trust in God, and all shall be well under heaven.

What are others preaching on, textually, topically?  How do you preach the "grace-oriented" message?
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2002, 06:47:30 PM »
When I was in the same pulpit regularly, which ended recently, I was doing a series on the Gospel of John. My thinking was to explore the identity of Jesus and introduce Him to the congregation. I tried to show that Jesus came to give us "life" and not religion.

After dealing with the prologue and the idea of ho logos as meaning God wants to communicate, God makes sense, and God enlightens then I proceeded to Jesus dealing with individuals, e.g. Nicodemus, the woman at the well, the man at the pool. The idea here being to see in what ways I may be like them; Nicodemus=religious expert; woman at the well=everything wrong in her life; man at the pool=a prisoner of chronic despair.

To each Jesus makes an offer of a new life made possible by the cross (John 3:16).

This is only a bare outline of the presentations, but I was trusting in God's Word to help people answer this question: "What would we do if we encountered God today?" and "What would God want?" The answer of John, I trust, is "God wants us to come alive!"

John helps us explore the barriers we have erected to keep out faith and life.
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2002, 01:17:00 AM »
Right now at CrossWalk we are working through Acts from the pulpit. Our preacher is doing a great series on the start of the church and the early problems as well as on using the different gifts people have etc. Since we are a new plant it is very topical for us.

We didn't do much on Peter's vision of the sheet so I may have some thoughts on that to kick in before too long.



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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2002, 08:46:56 PM »
kebecer1 my test last Sunday morning was Mark 8.31-9.1.  I titled the lesson: The Sacrificial Link.  I opened with the story of Rosa Parks and ended with Mother Teresa -- example of deny self (not things but self).  

Since Mark is so often preached and read through the eyes of Matthew (a horrible procedure) I explained how this text is linked to the "confession" of Peter in vv.27-30.  Here the story is radically different from Matthew.  the word epitamao is translated as "warned" in most English translations obscuring the idea that Jesus "rebukes" Peter rather than praise him (as in Matt). The word must be intentional by Mark for he uses twice (vv. 32, 33).  

Why choose this text? First because I work through the Gospels. Second because discipleship is deadly business and we must know who we are in relation to the Master -- followers.

"Who am I? They mock me, these lonely questions of mine. Whoever I am, thou knowest, O God, I am thine."  (Bonhoeffer, Letters and Papers from Prison).

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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2002, 04:23:32 PM »
I just concluded a series on the book of Galatians called "Set Free". It was a chapter by chapter type overview of Galatians in which I set up the basic argument that the Gospel (synonymous w/grace through faith) gives us liberty as opposed to legalism or license. After each chapter over view I would give a short exposition of a selected pericope.

One thing I found especially convicting was Paul's constant theme for the necessity of personal crucifixion in order to live the life of grace (2:17-21; 3:27; 5:24-25; 6:14,17). It seems he is saying that though grace is free it still cost your life (Matt. 16:24-ff; Luke 14:25-35)

I was preaching this series because each year I want to make sure I do at least one series on grace. In my upbringing there has been a dearth of expository messages on this theme. It seems most of the messages I remember which even mentioned grace were to either, (1) diminish it's importance to a stop gap between human achievement and faultless perfection, (2) fight a Calvinistic view of irresistable grace, or (3) as a passing reference in a "plan" or "ladder" illustration. I'm not knocking the sermons I have heard. I believe good hearted men spoke as they felt led by the word to speak. I just think in this present climate we need a lot more than that.

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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2002, 08:09:25 PM »
Fate, completely in agreement with your understanding that grace is threatening to many people. Why? I cannot imagine, for without grace everyone is lost. I believe grace is free because it's too expensive for us to afford it, so it has to be given to us. But to have God in our lives we must willingly surrender all else. Grace demands far more than a few religious works. With those works, God gets a few products of our effort, with grace, God gets us.
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2002, 04:27:45 AM »
I have never spoken before a Christian group or any other kind of group without at least a couple of illustrations of points from my very own personal life :p !
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2002, 06:45:59 AM »
kebecer, I am not all that familiar with Read, sounds as though he is worth exploring. Like Bobby, I have gained much from Thielicke.Clyde Fant's book on Bonhoeffer, Worldly Preaching was interesting. Craddock is excellent on the inductive approach. I like Diogenes Allen, say on Temptation, and Willimon challenges me most of the time. Leander Keck had some good things to say on trusting the Word to do its work. I have found Abraham Heschel outstanding(can't find his book on the prophets right now, so hope I have not mangled his name too much).

John Stott has some interesting things to say on bridging the gap between Christianity and the culture. Austin Farrer's little volume, Saving Belief treats some fundamental ideas in an insightful manner. Derek Kidner has helped me with Qohelet, as well as the Proverbs. Brueggeman, of course is a valuable resource. Ralph Martin's little work on Philippians, Carmen Christi gave me some good insights.

Well, after I hit the sack, as we used to say in the USMC, I am sure a dozen other volumes will flash into my memory.
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2009, 11:50:52 AM »
This Sunday I'm preaching from Romans 12:1-2 (be not conformed...). The why - I'm in a preaching class and it is an assigned text! Love the class, thought :)
um...drawing a blank, here :)