Anti-semitism

[DaveW]

Anti-Semitism is - -

A dislike/hatred for the children of Abraham.  That includes the Arabs and Bedoins as they are Semitic also.

It is ALSO any prejudice aganst Jews, Arabs and Bedoins.

It ALSO includes replacement theology which states that the Church has replaced the Jews as "chosen."

IMO it is demonicly inspired as the devil knows that God needs an identifiable Jewish ethnicity to wrap up end time events and the return of Messiah. Apparently the devil thinks that if he can destroy the Jewish nationality or keep them from the Gospel, he can hold back the return of the Lord indefinatly.

[thethinker]

Are you saying the Jewish leaders embraced Jesus after the cross?

And you call my quotation of scriptures that refuted your statement lame?

Wow.

I think raggtyme needs to give you some more manna for that imagination you got, pal.

Where did I say that the Jewish leadership embraced Christ after the cross? You read my posts the same way you read the scriptures. You said that the Jewish leadership kept the common people out of the kingdom. I acknowledged that this was true pre-cross but NOT post cross.

I gave you John 12:32 inwhich jesus said that when he is lifted up he would draw ALL men to himself. Then I gave you Paul's statement in Romans 11 when he said that the remnant of the Jews were being saved at this PRESENT time.

I was expecting that you would avoid thse statements like the plague and you did.

Stop acting silly and deal with the scriptures.  You have no basis at all for saying that the Jewish leadership kept people out of the kingdom after the cross.

Your view just goes to show how puny Christ is to Dispensationalists.

"If I be lifted up will draw ALL men unto Me."

thinker

[DaveW]

You said that the Jewish leadership kept the common people out of the kingdom. I acknowledged that this was true pre-cross but NOT post cross.

OK.  So Rabbi Saul, who [post cross] goes to the High Priest to get arrest warrants for christians in Damascas was ENCOURAGING people to follow Jesus??

In Acts 20 and 21 where the Jewish Leaders [post cross] arrest Paul for blasphemy was trying to PROMOTE the gospel?

And the fact that the leading rabbi of the day (Akiva) in 134 ad [post cross] declared the revolutionary Bar Kochba to be the Messiah was to get people to become New Testament believers?

And how about a plethora of leading rabbis and sages who wrote the Talmuds and said basicly "Anyone but THAT MAN," whom they refused to even write his name, calling him "yishky," an acronym standing for "may his name be blotted out" instead of Yeshua.

So these are the Jewish leaders of the first few centuries ad.  Were they promoting the gospel to their people or trying to keep them away?  You tell me.

[thethinker]

You said that the Jewish leadership kept the common people out of the kingdom. I acknowledged that this was true pre-cross but NOT post cross.

OK.  So Rabbi Saul, who [post cross] goes to the High Priest to get arrest warrants for christians in Damascas was ENCOURAGING people to follow Jesus??

In Acts 20 and 21 where the Jewish Leaders [post cross] arrest Paul for blasphemy was trying to PROMOTE the gospel?

And the fact that the leading rabbi of the day (Akiva) in 134 ad [post cross] declared the revolutionary Bar Kochba to be the Messiah was to get people to become New Testament believers?

And how about a plethora of leading rabbis and sages who wrote the Talmuds and said basicly "Anyone but THAT MAN," whom they refused to even write his name, calling him "yishky," an acronym standing for "may his name be blotted out" instead of Yeshua.

So these are the Jewish leaders of the first few centuries ad.  Were they promoting the gospel to their people or trying to keep them away?  You tell me.

What!? Jesus broke the power of the enemy man! He said, "NOW it the judgment of this world. NOW is the prince of this world cast out."

What's wrong with you? Jesus said that if He was lifted up He would "draw ALL men" to Himself, that is, all the remnant of Israel.

Paul said that the remnant of Israel was being saved at "this RPESENT time" (Romans 11:5).

When will you guys deal with these scriptures DIRECTLY? Show from scripture when the Jewish leadership kept the common people out of the kingdom after the cross. In fact, even before Christ died they were losing their stronghold. The scripture says that the leadership feared because the "whole world has gone after Him" (Jesus).

You failed to show that the Jewish leadership were successful in keeping the remnant out of the kingdom.

Your Jesus is puny!

YOU are the anti-semite!

thinker

[JohnDB70X7]

This is why this guy is candidate #1 for the ignore list. 

[thethinker]

This is why this guy is candidate #1 for the ignore list. 

Just giving you guys a taste of your own medicine. All you do is accuse non-dispensationalists of being anti-semitic. You're strong on accusation but short on exegesis.

You sent me a private message provoking me by beating your chest. I was just taking a break like I occasionally do. If I am such a candidate for the ignore list, then why did you pm me? You remind me of another guy who said that I was on his ignore list and didn't mean it. If I am on your ignore list then don't pm me.

You guys love to call others anti-semitic but don't like it when it comes back to you. If your theology was pro Jew as you claim, then you would be provoking THEM to jealosusy as Paul said. Instead your theology provokes the Arabs to jealousy and not for salvation but for land. Can you see something wrong with your picture?

As I said before it is a good thing for you that we live under the new covenannt inwhich God forgives all things including your damnable errors.

thinker

[JohnDB70X7]

Matthew 24:20-21 (KJV)
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Do tell, thinker, what makes this tribulation in 70 AD different from the one in 586 BC?