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COVID19 Vaccination "refusenik" capitulates!
« on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 02:27:20 »
 ::lookaround:: In my prime - some 50 years ago - it was necessary, as part of my job, for me to have a "Yellow Fever" vaccination.  That was such a traumatic experience, that apart from the Polio "sugar lump on the tongue" vaccination I didn't want any further stuff invading my immune system.  Until that is, our Queen's statement that those who refused the COVID jab were being "selfish" in regard to the health to others, coupled with an overwhelming  pressure blitz to accept an offer, mounted by the media over a period of weeks.    Feel also that the H.S. prompted me to "give in" - so I did!

 Had my first jab of the ASTRA Zeneca Vaccine A few days ago - near the end of the "over 80s" group offer.  What on earth was I worried about!?  Have experienced no adverse effects or even any minor discomfort! (A doctor at the vaccination centre told me that the "Yellow Fever" vaccination was "notorious for adverse side-effects")  They are now saying that even just one jab means some 80% reduction in any need for "hospitalization" should one inadvertently get infected!


   Next jab coming up in mid May/  By that time should be able to get back to pool-swimming again after our third "lockdown" - YIPPEE!!!

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« Reply #1 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 04:21:21 »
Don’t count on it Dave. The shutdowns are too delicious for the fascist wannabes. When and IF the Covid shutdown subside, climate change shutdowns are revving their engines. The power makes them giddy, especially when we comply. It’s almost orgasmic for them. A type of endorphine addiction it seems.
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« Reply #2 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 06:39:27 »
If you are older, the benefits of the vaccine most likely outweigh the risks.  However, at my age, I would fare better with covid than the risks of the vaccine.                               

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« Reply #3 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 07:22:22 »
If you are older, the benefits of the vaccine most likely outweigh the risks.  However, at my age, I would fare better with covid than the risks of the vaccine.                               

Yes, that is very true.

And if one, at any age gets covid and it is a mild case..... no sweat.

IF you are willing to follow the doctors advice until it is gone.

A neighbors late 50s daughter got a mild case in Dec. Quarantined at home for 2 weeks... no meds.
Was able to work all but 1 day  when she was very tired.

Now about 3 weeks ago her parents... neighbors ... one type 2 age 80 and wife who is COPD, having had severe surgery this past summer ( cancer) both came down with a mild case and were quarantining until.

However 1 1/2 weeks ago I know this couple and she ended up in the hospital 10 days ago.... in ICU until yesterday... with such a bad case that the docs said it was touch and go. No idea when she will be out...age 73. However her 78 year old husband , who had been tested with her, and got his results a week ago yesterday....

When I asked him... as I was taking food to him.... if he had gotten his results he said yes. I said negative or positive and he said positive.

So I am exposed to a positive one....

But that is not the worst of it or even very bad but what is.... I do not think he told his wife and she is giving orders to him from her ICU bed. And HE is out and about last Wed to Sams Club, Walmart and who knows where else cause he had to get some things.... and ;pay some bills.

When I volunteered to go do it for him, he refused.

Then on Sunday I ran to the store at 8AM to get him bread and coffee and leave it on hos porch so I could avoid any contact.

Then yesterday a neighbor mentioned she has seen him going out in the mornings. NOT every but more then once.

So this selfish, selfish man is either too stupid to know he is contagious, or just does not care.

Or both.

I had asked him last Monday if they prescribed meds. and what the doc said. (I was standing 4 feet away)(Handing him food
bags) and he said no meds. Just to take his regular ones and stay home.


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« Reply #4 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 07:39:14 »
Yes, that is very true.

And if one, at any age gets covid and it is a mild case..... no sweat.

IF you are willing to follow the doctors advice until it is gone.

A neighbors late 50s daughter got a mild case in Dec. Quarantined at home for 2 weeks... no meds.
Was able to work all but 1 day  when she was very tired.

Now about 3 weeks ago her parents... neighbors ... one type 2 age 80 and wife who is COPD, having had severe surgery this past summer ( cancer) both came down with a mild case and were quarantining until.

However 1 1/2 weeks ago I know this couple and she ended up in the hospital 10 days ago.... in ICU until yesterday... with such a bad case that the docs said it was touch and go. No idea when she will be out...age 73. However her 78 year old husband , who had been tested with her, and got his results a week ago yesterday....

When I asked him... as I was taking food to him.... if he had gotten his results he said yes. I said negative or positive and he said positive.

So I am exposed to a positive one....

But that is not the worst of it or even very bad but what is.... I do not think he told his wife and she is giving orders to him from her ICU bed. And HE is out and about last Wed to Sams Club, Walmart and who knows where else cause he had to get some things.... and ;pay some bills.

When I volunteered to go do it for him, he refused.

Then on Sunday I ran to the store at 8AM to get him bread and coffee and leave it on hos porch so I could avoid any contact.

Then yesterday a neighbor mentioned she has seen him going out in the mornings. NOT every but more then once.

So this selfish, selfish man is either too stupid to know he is contagious, or just does not care.

Or both.

I had asked him last Monday if they prescribed meds. and what the doc said. (I was standing 4 feet away)(Handing him food
bags) and he said no meds. Just to take his regular ones and stay home.

The data I look at a lot, shows the mild cases tend to be the norm the younger you are.

As far as your neighbor, sounds like an idiot.  I don't buy most of what the media tells me, I have been in person in church since May of 2020, and yet, when I knew I was exposed, and my children, we didn't go to church.  I already knew from my own research who was most likely to have problems with covid, I didn't need the health department to tell me to stay away from people.  We did that for a week before they told us to quarantine.

My state's data should be similar to overall data, as of last Friday here are the results:

0-9:  0.013% of deaths, 2.86% of cases, 0.012% mortality
10-19:  0.039% of deaths, 9.67% of cases, 0.011% mortality
20-29:  0.38% of deaths, 18.88% of cases, 0.05% mortality
30-39:  0.73% of deaths, 15.03% of cases, 0.13% mortality
40-49:  2.41% of deaths, 14.48% of cases, 0.44% mortality
50-59:  6.76% of deaths, 15.44% of cases, 1.15% mortality
60-69:  16.2% of deaths, 11.78% of cases, 3.63% mortality
70-79:  26.98% of deaths, 6.91% of cases, 10.29% mortality
80+:  46.48% of deaths, 4.87% of cases, 25.14% mortality





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« Reply #5 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 07:46:16 »
The data I look at a lot, shows the mild cases tend to be the norm the younger you are.

As far as your neighbor, sounds like an idiot.  I don't buy most of what the media tells me, I have been in person in church since May of 2020, and yet, when I knew I was exposed, and my children, we didn't go to church.  I already knew from my own research who was most likely to have problems with covid, I didn't need the health department to tell me to stay away from people.  We did that for a week before they told us to quarantine.

My state's data should be similar to overall data, as of last Friday here are the results:

0-9:  0.013% of deaths, 2.86% of cases, 0.012% mortality
10-19:  0.039% of deaths, 9.67% of cases, 0.011% mortality
20-29:  0.38% of deaths, 18.88% of cases, 0.05% mortality
30-39:  0.73% of deaths, 15.03% of cases, 0.13% mortality
40-49:  2.41% of deaths, 14.48% of cases, 0.44% mortality
50-59:  6.76% of deaths, 15.44% of cases, 1.15% mortality
60-69:  16.2% of deaths, 11.78% of cases, 3.63% mortality
70-79:  26.98% of deaths, 6.91% of cases, 10.29% mortality
80+:  46.48% of deaths, 4.87% of cases, 25.14% mortality

 ::bowing::  Yes, we know the board genius is perfect.  rofl  NOT

But in truth... most people do not have the time or the knowledge to be able to research as you do or even understand the stats.  They get it from the flawed news... and then suit themselves

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« Reply #6 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 08:37:39 »
Dave in UK, I hope you do well with the second vaccine. Both of my parents (in their 80s) had no reaction to their first vaccine, but did have reaction to their second. My mom had a mild reaction, but my dad had a major reaction and was in bed for 24 hours with body aches, headache, and chills. Some doctors say the more reaction you have, the more active your immune system is - which is a good thing, not bad.

The 2nd vaccine gave my mom so much of a mood lift and confidence that I ran into her shopping at Hobby Lobby the other day.  rofl  So it was worth any risk just for that. We're planning on hosting a birthday party for her this weekend. Most of the family coming have either had the covid themselves or the vaccine.

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« Reply #7 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 08:45:23 »
I just hope more people will work on their co-morbidities - building immune system by cutting out sugar, de-stressing, losing excess weight, vitamin D supplementation, lowering blood glucose to a normal range, normalizing blood pressure, etc.  We may not be able to do anything about our advancing age, but we can do something about resolving our health issues - no matter what our age.


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« Reply #8 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 09:04:20 »
Amen. Immune system TLC and maintenance will do wonders. We can’t vaccinate ourselves to immortality with a 99%+ survivable virus. I would imagine driving a car has worse odds than that. We either get back to normal forcibly if necessary and in their face soon or this will be an unnecessary AND permanent burden on our society, especially the youth. Old people are gonna die of something, guaranteed. And I'm one of them.
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« Reply #9 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 09:19:26 »
In the US, I heard that there were 1170 deaths related to the covid vaccine between 12/14/2020 and 2-7-2021.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/12/cdc-to-investigate-death-of-nebraska-man-who-received-covid-vaccine-dose.html

When there are about 60 deaths possibly related to all other vaccines in a given year, this is a bit concerning.

Like I said, my risk is greater with this vaccine than covid.  Especially if you figure in all the asymptomatic people who had covid and didn't get tested.

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« Reply #10 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 11:05:10 »
Also, not to mention this "vaccine" doesn't keep you from getting or spreading Covid. This is FAR different than the smallpox vaccine of decades ago. One of the vaccines touted that it changes your DNA. Nah, keep it away from me thank you. I'll take my chances, while doing all I can for my God given immunities.
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« Reply #11 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 13:40:40 »
In the US, I heard that there were 1170 deaths related to the covid vaccine between 12/14/2020 and 2-7-2021.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/12/cdc-to-investigate-death-of-nebraska-man-who-received-covid-vaccine-dose.html

When there are about 60 deaths possibly related to all other vaccines in a given year, this is a bit concerning.

Like I said, my risk is greater with this vaccine than covid.  Especially if you figure in all the asymptomatic people who had covid and didn't get tested.

My mountain man from Oregon will argue this point.

He is insisten there have been 40,000 deaths from the vaccine.... and he has the charts  ::tippinghat::

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« Reply #12 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 14:16:22 »
My mountain man from Oregon will argue this point.

He is insisten there have been 40,000 deaths from the vaccine.... and he has the charts  ::tippinghat::

I don't know who the mountain man is, and I don't know his charts.  I have only looked at the CDC VAERS database.  I don't know what happened with 2020 numbers because I didn't look at them, but for 2021 numbers, there were 985 possible deaths that were reported between 1/1/2021 and 2/19/2021.  The 1170 was gleaned from these same sources, but that was reported a few weeks ago.

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« Reply #13 on: Tue Mar 02, 2021 - 20:48:59 »
My mountain man from Oregon will argue this point.
Oregon?  I hear its been taken over by the wild wood weeds.

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« Reply #14 on: Thu Mar 11, 2021 - 10:46:16 »
We both had the Oxford one, me last week and him 3 weeks ago. Hubby had no side effects, mine were fairly mild, and really glad we have had it. Second dose in a few weeks.  Numbers of cases and deaths dropping rapidly now nearly all of the over 55's and all those with the more serious healthy conditions have had theirs. They are hoping to offer everyone over 16 the vaccination by early summer.

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« Reply #15 on: Fri Mar 12, 2021 - 07:56:55 »
Oregon?  I hear its been taken over by the wild wood weeds.

LOL...

Pretty close. 

But as my second mountain man... and this one bucks the system in unbelievable ways.... and some envious... is far more interesting then the first. The first was merely enamored of a Mormon polygamist woman and was desperately trying to get her to divorce the hubby and marry him.... Such stories I was told.

But Oregon is really hooked on many conspiracy things, and I am oh so happy to show him the flaws in his thinking. But a nice guy as well as entertaining. 

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« Reply #16 on: Fri Mar 12, 2021 - 08:21:57 »
My doctor keeps recommending not taking the vaccine. Early Covid treatment as with any respiratory disease is paramount to avoid the actual killer, out of control Pneumonia from not attacking the infection at the earliest possible moment with inhalable steroids. I'm staying tuned to my personal doctor and actually ignoring EVERYTHING Fauci might have to say. I feel good about that plan. Don't count on these Draconian measures leaving soon. They are too giddy about them. The end of Covid will remain JUST a bit longer indefinitely. Wear two may three masks, indoors and out, and assume your children or grandchildren will never darken the doors of a school building again, and have to get social interaction like we used to have to get a bootlegger to buy us a six pack of beer back in the day.
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« Reply #18 on: Fri Mar 12, 2021 - 08:33:39 »
My doctor keeps recommending not taking the vaccine. Early Covid treatment as with any respiratory disease is paramount to avoid the actual killer, out of control Pneumonia from not attacking the infection at the earliest possible moment with inhalable steroids. I'm staying tuned to my personal doctor and actually ignoring EVERYTHING Fauci might have to say. I feel good about that plan. Don't count on these Draconian measures leaving soon. They are too giddy about them. The end of Covid will remain JUST a bit longer indefinitely. Wear two may three masks, indoors and out, and assume your children or grandchildren will never darken the doors of a school building again, and have to get social interaction like we used to have to get a bootlegger to buy us a six pack of beer back in the day.

I don't trust Fauci, or a doctor, holistic or not.  There simply is no long term data on these vaccines.   And since there isn't, neither a doctor or Fauci's opinion have any merit.

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« Reply #19 on: Fri Mar 12, 2021 - 08:47:28 »
Which is WHY my opinion lines up with a doctor of reason. I could have gone to my other doctor who was in the tank on the vaccines, but that went against even scintilla of common sense in me. I chose the doctor who had successfully treated many people I know that had the virus of ALL ages. There is the right way and the way that seemed right for so many in the medical field - send you home until you felt really bad and THEN come in. Even a borderline moron like me knows that was a disaster. Gotta keep any respiratory infection from progressing to pneumonia WITH aggressive, early and bold intervention. If you are sentenced to a ventilator you have a very good chance of dying. I know several of my friends that were sick for weeks and luckily escaped a horrible death as their doctors fiddle farted around rather than going after the real killer, pneumonia.
I had one day of typical cold symtoms and my doctor prescribed inhalable steroids and Vitamin A, C and D and zinc.  I asked her if I needed to get tested for Covid, she said why? I treat all respiratory viruses the same including Covid. Prevent Pneumonia at all costs.
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« Reply #20 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 09:27:05 »
I don't trust Fauci, or a doctor, holistic or not.

Doesn't matter.   He knows what he's talking about.   That matters.

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There simply is no long term data on these vaccines.   And since there isn't, neither a doctor or Fauci's opinion have any merit.

No, that's wrong.   Experience with viral vaccines has given us a huge body of information about the nature of vaccines, how they work, and how they might go awry.   Even if you aren't familiar with that knowledge, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.   How do you think they managed to get functional and effective vaccines so quickly?


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« Reply #21 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 09:32:55 »
The AstraZeneca vaccines are allegedly causing blood clots.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/12/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-suspended-in-some-countries-over-blood-clot-fears.html


According to the article, about  0.0006% of people receiving the shot experienced blood clots.   Little over one in a million.   If every human being in the United States was vaccinated with this vaccine, that would result in about 400 people experiencing clots.


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« Reply #22 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 09:36:33 »
How DID they get vaccines so quickly since the “experts” said it would take YEARS?

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« Reply #23 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 10:03:37 »
Doesn't matter.   He knows what he's talking about.   That matters.

No, that's wrong.   Experience with viral vaccines has given us a huge body of information about the nature of vaccines, how they work, and how they might go awry.   Even if you aren't familiar with that knowledge, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.   How do you think they managed to get functional and effective vaccines so quickly?

How then has Fauci repeatedly changed his mind?  He either doesn't know as much as he says, OR he deliberately lies to pursue an agenda.  Which is it?  He's a self serving idiot.

Pfizer and Moderna are not viral vaccine.  They are mRNA vaccines.  Those are relatively new to the scene.  Johnson and Johnson is a vaccine that uses adenovirus.  You need to do a little bit of more research.

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« Reply #24 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 10:05:39 »
According to the article, about  0.0006% of people receiving the shot experienced blood clots.   Little over one in a million.   If every human being in the United States was vaccinated with this vaccine, that would result in about 400 people experiencing clots.

AstroZeneca isn't in the US and A, so it matters not. 

Why don't you look at the results in the VAERS database for the deaths associated with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines in the US?  Well over 900 deaths in a span of over two months compared to 60 or less annually in recent history from all other vaccines.  And in 2019, nearly 150 million people got the flu shot.

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« Reply #25 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 10:36:48 »
AstroZeneca isn't in the US and A, so it matters not. 

Why don't you look at the results in the VAERS database for the deaths associated with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines in the US?  Well over 900 deaths in a span of over two months compared to 60 or less annually in recent history from all other vaccines.  And in 2019, nearly 150 million people got the flu shot.

Gotta give the flu shot a break. It is not a fair comparison.

Flue shots have been given since you were born. And whatever kinks they had have been either ironed out or those who had issues know never to take it again.

I questioned shingles... a very scary proposition from death to actually getting a case of them.

Not idea about chicken pox as I had them as a kid ... same with all the kinds of measles.

Had mumps as a baby so no shot there... but I was told they did get me vaccinated for whooping cough.... most likely the reason I have coughing issues now.




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« Reply #26 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 10:38:40 »
How DID they get vaccines so quickly since the “experts” said it would take YEARS?

How do you think. Trump cut the red tape... now he is gone and it will never happen again

Why do you think it costs thousands for the first scripts of any new med? They say all the time involved......


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« Reply #27 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 10:42:48 »
Gotta give the flu shot a break. It is not a fair comparison.

Flue shots have been given since you were born. And whatever kinks they had have been either ironed out or those who had issues know never to take it again.

I questioned shingles... a very scary proposition from death to actually getting a case of them.

Not idea about chicken pox as I had them as a kid ... same with all the kinds of measles.

Had mumps as a baby so no shot there... but I was told they did get me vaccinated for whooping cough.... most likely the reason I have coughing issues now.

It is an absolutely fair comparison.  Flu shots are based upon the same technology as all other vaccines.  And they are FDA approved.

Covid vaccines are not FDA approved.  They are approved for emergency use.  There is a vast difference.  Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA based vaccines, and they do not use virus in their vaccines.  It is worth noting the difference.   Knowledge is power.    Unless you want to use the google and find information that confirms your existing bias.  I prefer looking at data and then making a determination.

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« Reply #28 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 10:43:52 »
According to the article, about  0.0006% of people receiving the shot experienced blood clots.   Little over one in a million.   If every human being in the United States was vaccinated with this vaccine, that would result in about 400 people experiencing clots.

A BIG FYI.

I just learned this. Nearly all people in hospitals with covid are put on blood thinners. Covid is notrious for causing clots.
Found this out cause of the neighbor in ICU gonna be in her 4th week with covid complications.

And they believe those on blood thinners may not get it at all. First time in my life I am grateful to be on Pradaxa.

That being said. I know some people who have had the shot. No clots yet

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« Reply #29 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 11:00:23 »
It is an absolutely fair comparison.  Flu shots are based upon the same technology as all other vaccines.  And they are FDA approved.

Covid vaccines are not FDA approved.  They are approved for emergency use.  There is a vast difference.  Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA based vaccines, and they do not use virus in their vaccines.  It is worth noting the difference.   Knowledge is power.    Unless you want to use the google and find information that confirms your existing bias.  I prefer looking at data and then making a determination.

I really do not care what the info says other then my friend who is campaigning about the fact that ( and she has them) if you take this shot and you are a girl you will not be able to get pregnant.

That does not affect you or me so I dont care.

If you can show me that this is anything other then water they are shooting into you I would read.

And if you can show me this really and truly is linked to mark of the beast I would be interested.

If you dont want to take it... then why bother looking into it? That is merely a waste of time

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« Reply #30 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 11:02:37 »
I really do not care what the info says other then my friend who is campaigning about the fact that ( and she has them) if you take this shot and you are a girl you will not be able to get pregnant.

That does not affect you or me so I dont care.

If you can show me that this is anything other then water they are shooting into you I would read.

And if you can show me this really and truly is linked to mark of the beast I would be interested.

If you dont want to take it... then why bother looking into it? That is merely a waste of time

Knowledge is power.  Or you can keep reading your yahoo articles and getting scared.

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« Reply #31 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 12:20:09 »
Knowledge is power.  Or you can keep reading your yahoo articles and getting scared.

I am not scared.... But you obviously are to keep researching into that which you are not taking.

I merely post things I see that are so obviously unbelievable that no one could possibly take them seriously or
those that are believable for those who may want to have others thoughts or facts  while they are considering what is best for themselves.

You keep posting everything totally negative about this shot thing even though you are not getting it. Why?

How many people die from the shot vs How many people died from the covid percentage wise. Have you done that in a single reply?

Yet you have not posted how many people have died from Pfizer vs How many have died from Moderna.

They are not the same shot so they should have different death percentages. You do the research and let us know.

And since the "teachers" are getting the single dose Johnson and Johnson. Soon we should know the kill rate for this one....
and in the not too distant future if teachers seem to be teaching differently we will know what did it.




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« Reply #32 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 12:44:27 »
1. I am not scared.... But you obviously are to keep researching into that which you are not taking.

2. I merely post things I see that are so obviously unbelievable that no one could possibly take them seriously or
those that are believable for those who may want to have others thoughts or facts  while they are considering what is best for themselves.

3. You keep posting everything totally negative about this shot thing even though you are not getting it. Why?

4. How many people die from the shot vs How many people died from the covid percentage wise. Have you done that in a single reply?
Yet you have not posted how many people have died from Pfizer vs How many have died from Moderna.
They are not the same shot so they should have different death percentages. You do the research and let us know.

5. And since the "teachers" are getting the single dose Johnson and Johnson. Soon we should know the kill rate for this one....
and in the not too distant future if teachers seem to be teaching differently we will know what did it.

1.  Like I said before, knowledge is power.  If you cannot trust the media or government, you have to do your own.  The more you know, the less likely you are to be scared.  I prefer to look at the data, and make my own determination instead of having media or Fraud-ci tell me what to believe, or Qanon type conspiracy theories about Bill Gates.  Have you gone out to a restaurant, visited big groups of family, gone to church, etc?  I have.  I am not afraid of covid.  I know my risk is far lower than those older than me.

2.  If you say so.

3.  My posting is things I have researched.  It goes against the media narrative.  If you want to verify what I am saying, I gave you the government website to look at, and how to find out the truth.

4.  I have looked at the Pfizer/Moderna deaths in the past, and they are pretty similar.  Both are mRNA vaccines.  I gave you the website and how to look.  Since you are retired, perhaps you could do that instead of email lists and yahoo telling you what to believe.

5.  The "teachers" in my school district got their second dose of either Pfizer or Moderna last month.  But in time we will see what impact the J&J vaccine will have.  It will be interesting to see, because it is a more traditional vaccine based upon an adenovirus rather than mRNA.






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« Reply #33 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 15:47:27 »
1.  Like I said before, knowledge is power.  If you cannot trust the media or government, you have to do your own.  The more you know, the less likely you are to be scared.  I prefer to look at the data, and make my own determination instead of having media or Fraud-ci tell me what to believe, or Qanon type conspiracy theories about Bill Gates.  Have you gone out to a restaurant, visited big groups of family, gone to church, etc?  I have.  I am not afraid of covid.  I know my risk is far lower than those older than me.

2.  If you say so.

3.  My posting is things I have researched.  It goes against the media narrative.  If you want to verify what I am saying, I gave you the government website to look at, and how to find out the truth.

4.  I have looked at the Pfizer/Moderna deaths in the past, and they are pretty similar.  Both are mRNA vaccines.  I gave you the website and how to look.  Since you are retired, perhaps you could do that instead of email lists and yahoo telling you what to believe.

5.  The "teachers" in my school district got their second dose of either Pfizer or Moderna last month.  But in time we will see what impact the J&J vaccine will have.  It will be interesting to see, because it is a more traditional vaccine based upon an adenovirus rather than mRNA.

Here TC.

From one of your favorite web news sources.... NOT

I am posting this for your education as well as others but I know you disqualify anything Yahoo... EXCEPT MAYBE THEIR
CHOLOLATE POP... if you ever had any..... 

Kidney problems from COVID-19 are particularly severe

COVID SCIENCE-Severe kidney problems seen with COVID-19; second vaccine dose should not be delayed for cancer patients

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/covid-science-severe-kidney-problems-195244087.html

Now am I scared? Silly rabbit.... of course not.  I am simply going to make sure I do not get the blasted thing.

Is that cussing? Blasted?

Anyway... my kidneys are fine and work well.

But our neighbor, who lives next door to a covid couple... well, she is in the hospital and he was out and about during his first 2 weeks of being positive... so mild were his symptoms... like there were none....

Any way this man had  kidney transplant a couple years back... after his kidney count had dropped to like 4. If you have problem s you will understand the severity of that number.

This one , no shot yet... and dont think he is lining up for it.... should be scared.... 100 feet away from him and all

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« Reply #34 on: Sat Mar 13, 2021 - 17:40:09 »
I saw Biden is projecting we MAY be able to have a backyard cookout with a few friends or family by July 4th. This ain’t gonna go away folks. If you want to have a backyard cookout NOW, have a freakin’ cookout and live your life. These morons are gonna milk this for all it’s worth! Feckless Fauci is all over media warning about everything from breathing to passing gas. Pay no attention to the blowhard on the screen. Use your head, but go ahead and LIVE. And do not forsake your vitamin A, C and D and Zinc. If you get sick, find a doctor that has some sense and uses inhalable steroids to quell pneumonia.
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