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does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« on: Sun Mar 25, 2018 - 19:03:31 »
hi, i don't swear a lot, not usually but there are outer influences that can cause me to swear even when i do not want to do so but it just makes me feel better, if i don't i don't feel better and then i think what's the big deal? it's just an outlet but then i don't think God likes it. i don't want a reply telling me that God doesn't like me to so just don't do it if that's the case, but i want understanding and compassion and help. if you don't swear at all then how do you do it. is it b/c you always have an easy life? is it is b/c it's a 'personality' trait i have that i need an outlet? Thank you a lot

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #1 on: Sun Mar 25, 2018 - 22:42:30 »
MY life has been far from easy but I don't swear. My parents never swore in front of me nor did I with my kids. My now adult children never swore at home, I never told them not to, it was one of those unwritten rules. My first husband did swear more that I would have liked, usually in a temper, but my second husband never has or does.   

My suggestion is to find words that you can use if you must have an outlet that aren't cursing or swearing.

What happens if you don't swear? You claim that you are helpless to stop because of outer influences, but that's just not true. its a choice in the end.

Must admit I hate to hear so many young people especially using the 'f' word constantly. I hate that word. same in films or on TV. When I was bought up swearing tv and films was very very rare. Now its common.   

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« Reply #2 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 00:37:16 »
I just don't think it's as effective when i don't swear in those unusual times and then i don't feel better. What alternatives do you use? Thanks

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« Reply #3 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 06:36:25 »


  I try  using  other  words and some times  it  works.


shoot, nuts.....phooy...  get  a word or two and  try  just

saying them  a few times  and maybe it will help to work for you.

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« Reply #4 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 07:02:46 »
When you say swear are you talking about actually using the Louis Farrakhan brand of swearing or are you referring to gutter talk that one will often catch even
in some movies or watching TV?

For me, Admittedly yes. On occasion.

I can also admit that I am shamed by it and I guarantee I am in the tiniest minority on here regarding that.

For me it usually is at the very instant something has gone wrong. Then I feel guilty and ask forgiveness. Not just in random conversation.

I often think it is the enemy who encourages me to do this.  If you are old enough there used to be a comedian by the name of Flip Wilson back in the 70s.
He had a TV show and every week he would have a skit of doing or saying something off color. He stock remark was

 "The devil made me do it"  I am not certain that for many this is not the case.

But I do not on a daily basis.

I have to be extremely agitated and stressed to talk gutter language.

And for me it is a good work in progress overcoming this.

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #5 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 08:14:49 »
I don't love it...and I have tried to use words that are "instead" of curse words, only to have other Christians tell me that even *those* are sinful. ::doh::

Unwholesome talk is something we are admonished to "do not let" come out of our mouths...and I wonder why we so limit what is unwholesome to curse words alone?  Gossip is unwholesome, but its rampant in our communities...slander...unkind words...calling people names, putting them down, etc.  All are unwholesome uses of our tongues.  So much so, that we are told to bless when cursed, to season our speech with grace, choose words that lead to edification, etc.

Ephesians 4:29 Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #6 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 08:22:59 »
The following is an article that lists the top 7 replacement swears:

A few from the article include:

1).  "By the beard of Spurgeon!"

and

5).  "Aw, McGree and me!"

Read the rest here:

Top 7 Replacement Swears For True Christians

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« Reply #7 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 08:39:38 »

Confession time.  ::priest:: ::prayinghard::  ::doh::


I'm pretty much desensitized to profanity, which is surprising because I was raised in a home where even common euphemisms were never allowed to be spoken. To this day, I've never heard either of my parents say heck, darn, etc.  However, it still bothers me to hear a child or teen use extreme profanity. When I hear teens angrily spew a litany of profanities, I want to take a paddle to their backside.
As for using it myself, I don't do it publicly, but I have a few terms I use in private conversations when the occasion arises. Remember Oliver Douglas on Green Acres and his "what the?" exclamations? I do that a lot. What the?!, who the?!, etc. Sometimes when reading a bizarre post here at GC, I think, "WHAT THE?!"



My go-to profanity is sh!t. I used it yesterday when I was on the highway and came within inches of getting sideswiped by a semi not staying in his own lane.





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« Reply #8 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 08:55:25 »

  I try  using  other  words and some times  it  works.


shoot, nuts.....phooy...  get  a word or two and  try  just

saying them  a few times  and maybe it will help to work for you.
Years ago, my mother had a young friend who used "Praise the Lord!" for a replacement for cursing and euphemisms. My mom ended up having to go to labor and delivery with her because her husband was out of town at the time. With each hard contraction, the young woman would shout out, "OH PRAISE THE LORD!"

I know a woman who hates the Republican party and uses "Republican!" as a replacement for a curse word - which is weird, IMO.

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #9 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 09:02:31 »
Admittedly I cuss some and it's usually when I get agitated. It is a bad habit born out of the construction industry I was in and also the oil industry I presently am in. It is an extremely bad habit that my wife and I work on A LOT in my case. Praise be to her that she is a much better person than me. She also has a much better daily environment than I do being in the campus ministry of our local Christian school. I think I have gotten better, but have a long ways to go.

Mommydi, I have used the word Democrat on occasion as a cuss word. To me it's worse than a cuss word, so not necessarily a good replacement.

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #10 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 09:04:18 »
Admittedly I cuss some and it's usually when I get agitated. It is a bad habit born out of the construction industry I was in and also the oil industry I presently am in. It is an extremely bad habit that my wife and I work on A LOT in my case. Praise be to her that she is a much better person than me. She also has a much better daily environment than I do being in the campus ministry of our local Christian school. I think I have gotten better, but have a long ways to go.

A nice replacement:  Barack Obama.

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #11 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 09:05:30 »
The ol' GD America disciple, huh?

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #12 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 09:07:08 »
Do you mean swearing or cussing?  Do you feel God is telling you to stop such talk?

I am often exposed to cussing, it does not bother me, and although rarely, I will cuss on occasion.  However, swearing (using the Lord's name) bothers me greatly, and I avoid doing so. 

Jesus was quite clear that it is not so much our actions, but our hearts.  This suggests to me that using an alternative word to replace a common cuss word, is not a solution, and "phooey" is no more wholesome than f word when used to express the same sentiment. 

IMO, avoid offense to others.  With some folks the f word will not even raise an eyebrow, while with others it is completely unacceptable.

Also pay careful attention to what God is telling you, if you are feeling convicted, stop swearing.  I don't buy that swearing is not a choice, most of those that commonly swear will not do so in certain situations, they may swear like a sailor in front of their peers, but never, ever in front of their dear mothers or grandmas.  It is a choice and can be controlled.

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« Reply #13 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 09:19:58 »
Thinking on this more...
I'd much rather sit next to someone who was cussing than someone who is constantly gossiping and putting others down.

So...I guess count me as one of those "heathens" that is kinda "meh" about an expletive or two.  ::eatingpopcorn:

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« Reply #14 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 09:59:06 »
Do you mean swearing or cussing?  Do you feel God is telling you to stop such talk?

I am often exposed to cussing, it does not bother me, and although rarely, I will cuss on occasion.  However, swearing (using the Lord's name) bothers me greatly, and I avoid doing so. 

Jesus was quite clear that it is not so much our actions, but our hearts.  This suggests to me that using an alternative word to replace a common cuss word, is not a solution, and "phooey" is no more wholesome than f word when used to express the same sentiment. 

IMO, avoid offense to others.  With some folks the f word will not even raise an eyebrow, while with others it is completely unacceptable.

Also pay careful attention to what God is telling you, if you are feeling convicted, stop swearing.  I don't buy that swearing is not a choice, most of those that commonly swear will not do so in certain situations, they may swear like a sailor in front of their peers, but never, ever in front of their dear mothers or grandmas.  It is a choice and can be controlled.


I also admit to cussing on occasion, but thanks for pointing out the difference between cussing and swearing. 

I've talked to many immigrants over the years and it's actually pretty interesting that they find our brand of cussing rather humorous. Most other cultures would not include excrement, bodily fluids, genitalia, or sexual acts in their conversations although some do. The typical swear or cuss, especially in European cultures is almost always against God and is regularly attached to words that imply anti-god.

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« Reply #15 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 10:11:21 »
Admittedly I cuss some and it's usually when I get agitated. It is a bad habit born out of the construction industry I was in and also the oil industry I presently am in. It is an extremely bad habit that my wife and I work on A LOT in my case. Praise be to her that she is a much better person than me. She also has a much better daily environment than I do being in the campus ministry of our local Christian school. I think I have gotten better, but have a long ways to go.

Mommydi, I have used the word Democrat on occasion as a cuss word. To me it's worse than a cuss word, so not necessarily a good replacement.

I have an aunt... in her 90s... who is a terrible gossip.  Her famouse words... that I never heard other then in the comics is "Yikes".

I have never heard her cuss or swear, but her son, who lives with her is constantly using the infamouse f word.... among others. Especially when in the kitchen cooking.

We were sitting at her table one day and she was complaining about his use of language and he just quietly looked at me and simple said "Where do you think I learned it from?"

As to my mom.... you would be very surprised... and her famous saying about language used in war movies and the like , if someone complains, is "Do you really think on the battlefield, in a fox hole they are going to say, Oh ,golly gee?"

I try to control myself. I really do. And I fully agree with you MeMyself... I do find gossiping and putting down others far more offensive.

I wish I could be more like my paternal Grandfather.... No matter what the situation he would exclaim loudly "Blatherskite"

Most of my life I was led to think this was a Scottish cuss word.... Cause it fit all cases where other cuss words would fit and I was told it was not nice by the folks.... LOL, then came the computer and the ability to look things up and found that Webster defines it as

Definition of blatherskite
1 : a person who blathers a lot
2 : nonsense, blather

So.... it kind of lost its effect thinking back to those times he would spout it out


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« Reply #16 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 10:27:59 »
This reminds me of the classic movie I Remember Mama, where Uncle Chris comes to town and teaches one of the kids to shout out "dumme gjet!" when in great pain. He says swearing helps relieve the pain. Dumme gjet translated is stupid goat.  ::noworries::


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« Reply #17 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 10:38:36 »
To me, taking the Lord's name in vain is MUCH more than uttering the classic GD phase. God is not his name. Though that phrase does have a terrible connotation.

Some people say "Jesus" to convey frustration or whatever, that is just as bad as GD or worse in my opinion. In the frustration context, it is certainly taking God's name in vain.

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« Reply #18 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 10:39:13 »
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Do you mean swearing or cussing?  Do you feel God is telling you to stop such talk?

That's a very important distinction.   One is an affront to God, the other is vulgarity, and offensive language.

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I am often exposed to cussing, it does not bother me, and although rarely, I will cuss on occasion.  However, swearing (using the Lord's name) bothers me greatly, and I avoid doing so.

That's where I am.  Sometimes, when I have a really difficult repair to do, I suggest to Mrs. B that it would be a good time for me to be by myself in the garage.   I spent summers as a teenager, working on a railroad tie gang, so I will let an expletive loose sometimes.   That's unmannerly and out of line in polite company, but it's infinitely better than swearing.

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Jesus was quite clear that it is not so much our actions, but our hearts.  This suggests to me that using an alternative word to replace a common cuss word, is not a solution, and "phooey" is no more wholesome than f word when used to express the same sentiment. 

Quite so. 

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #19 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 10:41:20 »
To me cussing IS swearing and swearing IS cussing. Taking the Lord's name in vain is another thing, but related. And it is way broader than some think.

It's sorta like my wife asking me what kind of coke I want. I may answer a Sprite or a Root Beer. Other parts of the country refer to a soft drink of any kind as a pop. My dad called them Sody Waters. My mother would say she could sure use a coke right now, and then pour herself a Dr. Pepper.
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« Reply #20 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 10:57:41 »
Working on a railroad tie gang, working with roughnecks, etc - y'all are in full stereotyping mode on this.  ::noworries:: There is something to be said for stereotypes, though.
I just did a quick search, and white collar workers are definitely catching up to blue collar workers on the use of profanity in the workplace. According to this article, they attribute this change to young people entering the white collar fields who have been raised in a time of excessive profanity in entertainment and social media, so they're desensitized to it and apt to use it. The article claims the foul language in the office is increasing and here to stay.

http://www.startribune.com/as-language-grows-more-profane-office-talk-takes-a-turn-for-the-curse/431336533/

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« Reply #21 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 14:15:08 »
I don't love it...and I have tried to use words that are "instead" of curse words, only to have other Christians tell me that even *those* are sinful. ::doh::

Unwholesome talk is something we are admonished to "do not let" come out of our mouths...and I wonder why we so limit what is unwholesome to curse words alone?  Gossip is unwholesome, but its rampant in our communities...slander...unkind words...calling people names, putting them down, etc.  All are unwholesome uses of our tongues.  So much so, that we are told to bless when cursed, to season our speech with grace, choose words that lead to edification, etc.

Ephesians 4:29 Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.

I appreciate your posting Ephesians 4:29. I think Epheisans 5:4 is apropos as well:

and there must be no filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.

If I have prob with language, it is not in telling jokes filled with coarse words. For me, it is using Spanish expletives. It is rare as I hate to use any such words, but sometimes I find myself thinking them.

I try to remember that Paul says a good replacement, the best, is giving of thanks. I believe that as we grow in faith and self control, we will grow in becoming less frustrated and find ourselves using coarse language less often. It just takes time, and God will help us.

I've gotta long way to go. ::blushing::

It's sorta like my wife asking me what kind of coke I want. I may answer a Sprite or a Root Beer. Other parts of the country refer to a soft drink of any kind as a pop. My dad called them Sody Waters. My mother would say she could sure use a coke right now, and then pour herself a Dr. Pepper.

Where I live, we use the word "coke" in the same way. ::crackup::

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« Reply #22 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 15:02:20 »
I appreciate your posting Ephesians 4:29. I think Epheisans 5:4 is apropos as well:

and there must be no filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.


Possibly the one we all should remember but don't is


Matthew 12:36  (KJV)
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

There will be more then one red face on that day I suspect.......... ::blushing::

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« Reply #23 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 15:11:39 »
Possibly the one we all should remember but don't is


Matthew 12:36  (KJV)
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

There will be more then one red face on that day I suspect.......... ::blushing::

Where do you draw the line? Seriously. Years ago, I had a friend who took these verses to the extreme, and it was weird.


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« Reply #24 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 15:19:33 »
I'm pretty much desensitized to profanity, which is surprising because I was raised in a home where even common euphemisms were never allowed to be spoken. To this day, I've never heard either of my parents say heck, darn, etc.  However, it still bothers me to hear a child or teen use extreme profanity. When I hear teens angrily spew a litany of profanities, I want to take a paddle to their backside.
I raised my children that very way~it has helped them~but they will, if they get upset, will say some very choice words, just not around me, they know better to do so, They are all in their early to late forties and know that I would correct them with a very hard rebuke. My workers are not allowed to use profanity in the shop or on job sites.  But, I'm sure they do, just not when I'm around.
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My go-to profanity is sh!t. I used it yesterday when I was on the highway and came within inches of getting sideswiped by a semi not staying in his own lane.
You and my wife~shame on both of you.
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« Reply #25 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 17:26:26 »
Where do you draw the line? Seriously. Years ago, I had a friend who took these verses to the extreme, and it was weird.

Haha! (i immediately got a mental picture of her jogging around the room every time she talked so she wasn't standing still and being idle while she spoke... rofl)
 Can you give an example? 

I think its just a reminder to pause and consider what we are about to say...
run it through the filter of the golden rule and how we'd like to be spoken to/of.

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« Reply #26 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 18:51:22 »
Yes i recall being very angry, furious about something happening towards me that wouldn't stop, it's personal and i used the F word in it in saying how i was feeling b/c that was effective and relieving so I'm still waiting for help on like how people could get over that like people who don't swear how they do it. Do they rephrase it to something more professional. What do you do in situations where it just doesn't stop!
And also I don't think i ever said 'Jesus Christ'! i could've but if i did it would be a long time ago and rare like once i don't know but if i did i wouldn't find it unwholesome for me b/c i would mean that i need you lord Jesus  ::noworries::
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« Reply #27 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 19:42:29 »
Yes i recall being very angry, furious about something happening towards me that wouldn't stop, it's personal and i used the F word in it in saying how i was feeling b/c that was effective and relieving so I'm still waiting for help on like how people could get over that like people who don't swear how they do it. Do they rephrase it to something more professional. What do you do in situations where it just doesn't stop!

angelic,

First of all, let me make sure you understand that I got my psychology degree in a Cracker Jack box. ::cool::

I believe that in pretty much most cases with us folks who have a hard time with rotten language (or even thinking the words), the problem is not the language. The unkind, foul, etc. words we use are a symptom of the problem. In your case it sounds like anger. In another case, it may be peer pressure, or some kind of financial or fleshly gain. Many of us may have grown up in homes with that kind of language being common, and we're just trying to kick the habit.

If you are having a hard time with anger, then I can understand. I get mad at myself and have to find effective ways to deal with it. In your OP you said that there are "outer influences that can cause me to swear even when i do not want to do so but it just makes me feel better." Are the outer influences things that make you angry? Dealing with the cause(s) of your anger is what you need to focus on, if that's the case. Using the bad language is not how to deal with the anger, even if it makes you feel better.

Regardless of the case, I think the best approach for the language issue, at least for me and I certainly can't speak for anybody else, is to first decide why I either would want to use foul language or why I would think I have to, and then try to eliminate that reason. If it's anger, then deal with the causes of the anger as the root cause. If it is my home or work environment, then try to (1) change the environment, or (2) change my placement in the environment, or finally (3) change how I operate in, and react to, negative influences in that environment.

Finally, if I am, for some strange reason, thinking that I have something to gain from using those words, then I need to change my goals, and seriously reconsider what I consider to be gain.

In any and all of these situations, prayer to God for His help is paramount to overcoming whatever obstacles and temptations keep us using ungodly language (or thoughts).

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #28 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 19:50:58 »
Haha! (i immediately got a mental picture of her jogging around the room every time she talked so she wasn't standing still and being idle while she spoke... rofl)
 Can you give an example? 



We were both members of the same homeschool support group. We had already decided to share a booth at our yearly book sale before she went silent. We weren't extremely close friends and usually just chatted about homeschool curriculum and activities at our meetings.
So right before the book fair, she laid it on me that she'd been studying more about proper behavior for Christian women, and that we all talk too much, and then started quoting all the verses to back it up. She let me know that at the sale, we would not be visiting/chatting/talking unless it was of absolute necessity. She said we'd spend the day in individual study and reading our Bibles, and that no idle words would be spoken. We wouldn't make small talk with people who entered our booth because that would be idle talk. We could only answer questions from shoppers, and not try to engage them in convo. If I hadn't already signed up to have a booth with her, I would have told her to forget it.
The sale was at a church that I was unfamiliar with. After we set up our booth (in silence) I asked, "I wonder where the restrooms are?" She immediately said, "Shhhh" with her finger to her lips, then pointed down the hall. That was one of the most bizarre and longest days I've ever experienced.



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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #29 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 20:47:57 »
Thanks soterion, I know to address the anger but this happening towards me was something that wouldn't stop, it was not in my control so all that was effective for me to use and a relief was the F word(?)

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #30 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 21:04:06 »
I probably swear more times than I care to admit. But really it is not saying God's name in vain that bothers me. Than any other foul secular words.  As really it is about trying to bite our tongues. Giving it to God if you let Him. As really wish I did not. Especially using God's name in vain.

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #31 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 21:24:18 »
We were both members of the same homeschool support group. We had already decided to share a booth at our yearly book sale before she went silent. We weren't extremely close friends and usually just chatted about homeschool curriculum and activities at our meetings.
So right before the book fair, she laid it on me that she'd been studying more about proper behavior for Christian women, and that we all talk too much, and then started quoting all the verses to back it up. She let me know that at the sale, we would not be visiting/chatting/talking unless it was of absolute necessity. She said we'd spend the day in individual study and reading our Bibles, and that no idle words would be spoken. We wouldn't make small talk with people who entered our booth because that would be idle talk. We could only answer questions from shoppers, and not try to engage them in convo. If I hadn't already signed up to have a booth with her, I would have told her to forget it.
The sale was at a church that I was unfamiliar with. After we set up our booth (in silence) I asked, "I wonder where the restrooms are?" She immediately said, "Shhhh" with her finger to her lips, then pointed down the hall. That was one of the most bizarre and longest days I've ever experienced.

Silence and full submission. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d8FTPv955I

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #32 on: Tue Mar 27, 2018 - 03:57:28 »
Am not trying to be too virtuous!  ::saint:: But I heard more than enough of it, when as a young engineering apprentice  I queued up with others outside Portsmouth Dockyard gates waiting for them to be opened and us all to trudge in and "clock-in". Almost every other word uttered by the "dockies" was foul - how boring and pointless!  I also remember my dad throwing things around in a fit of temper and using foul language (he was in the building trade - so quite a common business). Somehow despite worldly influences - I never took to it.  My attitude has usually been one of quiet acceptance of things going wrong.  Have not felt any help from uttering even a mild expletive like "Rhubarb!" or "Raspberries!" when I hit my finger with a hammer instead of the nail.  Even when badly hurt, I don't think I have been in any condition to utter anything! (Not much wrong with people who can holler!)   There was the time I accidentally bent my thumb behind my knuckles and had to have the torn tendon stitched back. How I hated that business, because it was the hand I write with, and writing (much needed in my job at the time, my colleagues used to joke that I was effectively "hamstrung" if anyone took away my writing implements!) was very difficult (gripping a pen between index and middle finger, resulting in a weak poorly coordinated spidery scrawl) with plaster from just below the elbow to the knuckles, and thumb stuck out at a fixed crazy angle for 3 months.  Yet it was due to my own stupid fault, so no point in complaining!
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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #33 on: Tue Mar 27, 2018 - 08:26:54 »
We were both members of the same homeschool support group. We had already decided to share a booth at our yearly book sale before she went silent. We weren't extremely close friends and usually just chatted about homeschool curriculum and activities at our meetings.
So right before the book fair, she laid it on me that she'd been studying more about proper behavior for Christian women, and that we all talk too much, and then started quoting all the verses to back it up. She let me know that at the sale, we would not be visiting/chatting/talking unless it was of absolute necessity. She said we'd spend the day in individual study and reading our Bibles, and that no idle words would be spoken. We wouldn't make small talk with people who entered our booth because that would be idle talk. We could only answer questions from shoppers, and not try to engage them in convo. If I hadn't already signed up to have a booth with her, I would have told her to forget it.
The sale was at a church that I was unfamiliar with. After we set up our booth (in silence) I asked, "I wonder where the restrooms are?" She immediately said, "Shhhh" with her finger to her lips, then pointed down the hall. That was one of the most bizarre and longest days I've ever experienced.

 ::eek::  The lengths some people will go to live in legalism never cease to amaze me!

What a joyless understanding of the Word of God!  Why do so many people us it as a tool to shame and silence, when Christ came to set us free from the yokes of slavery we slip on over our heads and the heads of those around us?!

Honestly, Mommydi, this would have freaked me out so much, I probably would have been afflicted instantly with rapid fire rambling that could not be stopped. Haha!

What a long and tedious and joyless day, and I am so sorry you had that imposed upon you! ::faint::

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Re: does anyone have a problem w/ swearing?
« Reply #34 on: Tue Mar 27, 2018 - 13:25:42 »
We were both members of the same homeschool support group. We had already decided to share a booth at our yearly book sale before she went silent. We weren't extremely close friends and usually just chatted about homeschool curriculum and activities at our meetings.
So right before the book fair, she laid it on me that she'd been studying more about proper behavior for Christian women, and that we all talk too much, and then started quoting all the verses to back it up. She let me know that at the sale, we would not be visiting/chatting/talking unless it was of absolute necessity. She said we'd spend the day in individual study and reading our Bibles, and that no idle words would be spoken. We wouldn't make small talk with people who entered our booth because that would be idle talk. We could only answer questions from shoppers, and not try to engage them in convo. If I hadn't already signed up to have a booth with her, I would have told her to forget it.
The sale was at a church that I was unfamiliar with. After we set up our booth (in silence) I asked, "I wonder where the restrooms are?" She immediately said, "Shhhh" with her finger to her lips, then pointed down the hall. That was one of the most bizarre and longest days I've ever experienced.

Good grief,

I can safely assume she would not be a member of Grace Centered? LOL

Just reading the extended replies of some of the posters would have her all flustered I am sure... much less needing
to reply ( talking on paper) .

My dad used to tell us we were going to have to account for our idle words whenever we might be on the phone too long. (For him too long was beyond 2 minutes)