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Faith alone (osas) the true GOSPEL
« on: Thu Aug 25, 2022 - 10:14:57 »
   I Like to present my reasons why faith alone aka (osas) is the true gospel.
First if you look at the churches that in oppositions of faith alone they always have a common denominator which is 90% or better of cult teachings or unbiblical teachings. You can just look back in the past 200 years of some of the churches that sprung up out of nowhere that many scholars agree that these are false churches. Here is the list of the churches that has an opposition to faith alone (osas)
1. Jehovah witness
2. Mormons
3. Seventh day advent
4. Catholics
5. Branch Dividians
6. Restoration of the 10 commandments of God in uguanda cult.
7. Jonestown people's temple
8. Herbert Armstrong (WWCOG)
9. Philadelphia church of God
10. Brother R.G. stair overcomer's ministries

This is just a sample list of the false churches that against faith alone (osas) they all have a common theme they all agree that have have some gold nugget of truth that nobody has known about a secret handshack that they and they alone have and no other church has. Their salvation message is not grounded in faith alone in christ alone in the cross alone. There will be more just praying a prayer you will have to "endure to the end" and no one can be 100 percent have enough faith to know if they will go to heaven when they die.
These people are not truely saved biblically these churches are not preaching the cross they preaching a lesser cross and more self. Jesus merely died for your sins so you just sort of saved now you must finish the course to stay saved. All cults have this theme in common all cults teach against the security of the believer aka faith alone (osas). If you disagree then you have to go over the small sample list I gave and explain away why they believe what they believe. They all have their version nik-nak nugget what ever you may call of "endure till the end" to be saved but each and ever version is different from the other organization. They all have their unique nugget of their version of truth but 100% disagree with each other on what constitutes going to heaven when someone dies.
   Let's say jehovah witness is the poster child of what a false gospel message looks like because we do hear alot that jehovah witness is a cult from christian mainstream.
1. They teach against faith alone (once saved always saved)
Just go to their website jw and search osas can't make this stuff up they 100% dead on against osas.
2. They do teach some crazy unbiblical doctrine on trinity, deity of christ, Jesus being michael the arch angel, Jesus dying on a stake not an cross.
But the number 2 list is only possible because if follows false teachings according what pertains to salvation if you preach against faith alone for sure other false teachings will spring up. It's not like they got the faith plus endure till the end right and they just little messed up in the head concerning petty doctrine no its the opposite they not truely born again chtistians just for the mere fact they did never get saved according to biblical truths. These people are easily snared into false doctrine of the cult it's pretty easy to fall for this especially if you have some kinda beef against faith alone. I known quit a few JW's back in the old days there good people don't get me wrong but they are wrong on salvation. The one's I known reasons they joined the JW is just the fact there is no way salvation is that simple faith alone is wrong osas is wrong eternal security is of the devil this is the reasons why people seek out a church like JW I only can speak out from my experience associating with JW's that may not be your experience.
JW's is pretty much like any cult they all have a common theme osas is a lie from the devil. All cults teach against faith alone, osas, eternal security if you disagree then you have to make a case of the list I provided why these churches teach what they teach and also teach the endure till the end message but is considered false churches.
Do they teach faith alone (osas) the list again
1.no
2.no
3.no
4.no
5.no
6.no
7.no
8 no
9.no
10. no

This is just a small sample list do your research some of these ended with people being massacred. The restoration of the 10 commandments of God church was super strick on obedience some weren't allowed to talk in fear of the a commandment. How it ended is shocking so was jonestown and branch dividians.
This is why I believe we are 100% secure in Christ we are 100% truely born again we cannot and will not lose our salvation faith in him alone in the cross alone eternal security is the true gospel on the other side of the spectrum is cults and history of the church and false work based churches prove my point.
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Re: Faith alone (osas) the true GOSPEL
« Reply #1 on: Thu Aug 25, 2022 - 11:33:42 »
I don't think that I am following your argument.  Are you suggesting that you believe Faith Alone (FA) is the true gospel teaching because those 10 churches you listed believe it is false?

I think you are wrong, but I feel no obligation to review or considerwhat those 10 churches teach. I think you are wrong because it is not what the Bible says, and it matters not at all what those 10 churches teach.

The simple truth is that there is only one passage of scripture in the whole of the Bible that even mentions "faith alone" and that is James 2:24 and that verse is a flat-out denial of the concept of FA.  Now you can wiggle-worm your way around what the real meaning of James 2:24 is; however, you cannot find any other place in the Bible where it says, "faith alone".

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Re: Faith alone (osas) the true GOSPEL
« Reply #2 on: Fri Aug 26, 2022 - 03:02:12 »
You could list 100 churches you believe espouse false doctrine and it would do absolutely nothing to bolster your premise.  Because your premise is severely flawed.  If your own doctrine is different from those 100 churches, but also in error, it makes no difference what your doctrine is.  It's still wrong and you be church Nu. 101 on the list. 

The only way you can say your doctrine is "true" is if you have total and complete biblical support for it.  What any other church teaches is irrelevant to your own doctrine being correct or not.

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Re: Faith alone (osas) the true GOSPEL
« Reply #3 on: Fri Aug 26, 2022 - 04:25:57 »
I Like to present my reasons why faith alone aka (osas) is the true gospel.
OSAS is not the gospel, but a perversion of the truth. Once LOVED always loved is the truth, yet saved children of God can lose their way, peace, joy, and God's best for them, by not heeding the many warnings of the word of God and if this is not so, then so many warnings were given in vain, especially so in the book of the Hebrews.
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1. Jehovah witness
2. Mormons
3. Seventh day advent
4. Catholics
5. Branch Dividians
6. Restoration of the 10 commandments of God in uguanda cult.
7. Jonestown people's temple
8. Herbert Armstrong (WWCOG)
9. Philadelphia church of God
10. Brother R.G. stair overcomer's ministries
These cults (maybe RCC is a "slight" exception) present NO PROBLEMS for God's children, their blatant lies are easily detected~it is those who have some truth mixed with false doctrines.
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Matthew 24:5, 24~"For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.......................................F or there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
Would you say Lot lost his way and lost God's best for him while living in this world? I think he did.

There are too many warnings that are real warnings showing even God's people can lose their way if they refuse to heed the word of God as they should.

So much more can be said concerning this if you desire to continue with your thread.

Fatih alone is a false doctrine/gospel according to James! One MUST heed the word of God, or else, they are not showing themselves as children of God and will never receive God's best while living in this world, and may even experience His wrath at the end! Matthew 7:23.
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Re: Faith alone (osas) the true GOSPEL
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