Good brother Larry2:
I think you missed what I said. Yes, God is in control, and we are to pour out our heart to Him. The Word also states that often our heart isn't in line with His, and thus we are not granted our requests. We are urged, and indeed even told to make our requests known to God, who hears us. However, that is a far cry from not accepting His response, of not accepting the fact that He has closed the womb, and not waiting for Him to open it. Hannah did this. God was gracious, which He doesn't have to be, and opened her womb. We know that it might be on the male's part that the infertility is there, as we may find this out from the doctor. But why do we go to the doctor about it? If God opens and closes the womb, then why don't we wait on Him to open it? Could it possibly be that God is trying to get our attention to something in our life? This is stated in the Word. Could it possibly be because we are walking in sin? This too, is stated in the Word. God always does His thing for good reason, right? We need to have His mind in these things, not what we have been preconditioned to believe: especially when it ignores the clear Word of God and simple reasoning. What I wrote was not about asking God about it, or even asking God to change it, as both of those things are proper to do, as stated also in the Word. What is improper is not waiting on the Lord in it and going to the doctor about it and trying treatments for it, for in so doing we have ignored God in it, no matter what we say to the contrary: what we have then done in no way fits the Word of God. Even without the Word of God telling us that these things are a judgment from God, or a testing from Him, simple reasoning should preclude us from circumventing the Holy One, the Awesome God who we are to follow with pure alacrity. Submission is a word that few Christians indeed like to hear in our modern culture. It's tragic. So, if anyone can present the Word for our trying fertility methods, I am very open to hearing them. Thanks.
Sorry, Larry2, but you mixed two totally different things in your reply, as evidenced in your first sentence/question, and the Word which you used subsequent to it. And a third issue, freedom in Christ, does in no way apply to circumventing God having closed our womb. Asking God to open it isn't circumventing it, but is another issue unto itself. Your third sentence stated: ACCORDING TO HIS WILL. This would then prove that we haven't asked according to His will, if the womb is not yet open. To then persue "forcing" it open by fertility treatments is flat out slapping God in the face, so-to-speak. Hebrews 4:16 is applicable, too, but does not permit us to ignore God's clear action in us physically, does it?
Thanks for your reply, bro. I fully appreciate that you use the Word.