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For everyone against Halloween
« on: Sat Oct 10, 2009 - 19:32:13 »
Do you celebrate Christmas?  Easter?

Please just answer yes or no.

Thank you!

In Christ,
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For everyone against Halloween
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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #1 on: Sat Oct 10, 2009 - 20:07:44 »
I ain't against Halloween


but can I say "yes" anyway?

if not...I will just keep quiet.  ::doh::

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Ha!  That's fine.  I am surprised that those who railed against it are being silent.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #3 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 07:07:33 »
I dont think children are encouraged to dress up as witches, devils, wizards, ghosts etc or to wear Satans horns,or carry round the devils pitchforks or axes of carry round witches broomsticks at Christimas or Easter.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #4 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 07:43:54 »
My remarks werent sarcastic they were truthful.Those costumes are what the shops here are full of. Yes I celebrate The birth of Jesus on Christmas day, and the resurrection of Jesus on Easter day. I am sure that you are now going to come back and tell me that they are the same as halloween, but Christmas and easter dont involve the evil things as hallowen does.Halloween is a special day for Satanists, devil worshippers and witches. People who used to be involved in these things and have become Christians will tell you this. The Bible warns us against such things, so why open the door for evil?

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #5 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 09:49:14 »
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but do know what chosenone says about Satan worshipers is correct when it comes to Halloween. It is their high day, or night as it is.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #6 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 09:49:58 »
Halloween, No.

Eastre, No.  Christ's rising=Easter, YES.

"Eastre, the Anglo-Saxon name of a Teutonic goddess of spring and fertility, to whom was dedicated a month corresponding to April. Her festival was celebrated on the day of the vernal equinox; traditions associated with the festival survive in the Easter rabbit, a symbol of fertility, and in colored easter eggs, originally painted with bright colors to represent the sunlight of spring, and used in Easter-egg rolling contests or given as gifts."

Christmas as = birth of Jesus Christ, YES.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #7 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 09:53:42 »
Yes
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And I will not go anyplace for Easter or Christmas dinners or gatherings anymore ---I am shocked at how people do not mention Jesus - sometimes begrudgingly say grace before a meal -and then make a joke of the prayer!!  Even at active Christian dinners - there is so little talk of the meaning of the day...well, not enough for me anyway.
 
(Please, don't yell at me k-pappy -this was my big chance to express a big decision on my part regarding these most sacred Holy Days. Even on Thanksgiving gatherings people don't thank GOD! I don't get it.  I'm not joining others anymore on Holidays - and I get many invites. )
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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #8 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 10:05:53 »
Yes
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And I will not go anyplace for Easter or Christmas dinners or gatherings anymore ---I am shocked at how people do not mention Jesus - sometimes begrudgingly say grace before a meal -and then make a joke of the prayer!!  Even at active Christian dinners - there is so little talk of the meaning of the day...well, not enough for me anyway.
 
(Please, don't yell at me k-pappy -this was my big chance to express a big decision on my part regarding these most sacred Holy Days. Even on Thanksgiving gatherings people don't thank GOD! I don't get it.  I'm not joining others anymore on Holidays - and I get many invites. )
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You need new friends, El!  ::smile:: Even in my very tiny circle, the emphasis is on Christ at Christmas and Easter, and thanking God for His blessings on Thanksgiving. Often over the years I have had Thanksgiving dinner with my "unsaved" friends (the ones that are currently supporting me). With red faces, they offer up their only public prayer of the year. It always gives me hope for them.  ::smile::

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #9 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 10:54:01 »
Halloween indeed stands for non Christian things, but we deal with non Christian things on a  daily basis all day long, so this doesn't bother me any worse than anything else.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #10 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 11:16:02 »
Halloween indeed stands for non Christian things, but we deal with non Christian things on a  daily basis all day long, so this doesn't bother me any worse than anything else.


 Does that mean that we actively take part in them though?

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #11 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 11:59:18 »
IMO, all those Christians old enough to know/have learned the origin of Halloween and yet still celebrate it give at least the APPEARANCE of being fine with its origin.    ::doh::   

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #12 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 12:12:10 »
Oh yeah, "Trick or treat?"--that question could be taken by the person who answered a kid's knock on their door as being asked if they're going to trick or treat the kid.    ::doh::   ::smile::

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« Reply #13 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 16:44:02 »
IMO, all those Christians old enough to know/have learned the origin of Halloween and yet still celebrate it give at least the APPEARANCE of being fine with its origin.    ::doh::   

Please stop insulting my late grandmother.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #14 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 17:36:29 »
Ooops, sorry Marc.   ::smile:: 

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #15 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 18:55:28 »



    Call me evil if you wish.  JESUS knows better.  But if a kid or kids come to my door asking  for candy
     and they are not frightened by my huge dog I will certainly give to them.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #16 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 19:06:52 »
They'd probably rather have candy.  ::lookaround::

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #17 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 19:09:00 »
I will give them Easter candy.  Dressed up like a bunny.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #18 on: Sun Oct 11, 2009 - 23:46:00 »
 I think it is a Christians personal choice, I did Halloween as a little kid, myself I am not a Satan worshipper. I as an adult with kids, do not like it that much, but, it is a heart matter IMHO.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #19 on: Mon Oct 12, 2009 - 13:23:48 »
No & No

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #20 on: Mon Oct 12, 2009 - 18:24:00 »
 Goodness, guy's just on non essentials live and let live.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #21 on: Mon Oct 12, 2009 - 18:30:50 »
Yes, I celebrate Easter and Christmas.  The birth and resurrection of our Savior is certainly worthy of celebration!  ::prayinghard:: I did Halloween as a kid as well, but never cared for the "satan" aspect.  I did, however, enjoy the 'devil' out of a big fat sack of candy and making myself sick the following 3 days it took to eat it!   ::noworries::

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« Reply #22 on: Mon Oct 12, 2009 - 18:33:21 »
Just don't knock on Walker's door.  He'll give you his huge dog, they you'll have to feed it all your candy.  ::threestooges::

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #23 on: Mon Oct 12, 2009 - 22:22:11 »
Yes, I celebrate Easter and Christmas.  The birth and resurrection of our Savior is certainly worthy of celebration!  ::prayinghard:: I did Halloween as a kid as well, but never cared for the "satan" aspect.  I did, however, enjoy the 'devil' out of a big fat sack of candy and making myself sick the following 3 days it took to eat it!   ::noworries::

 My mom always thought someone was going to put razor blades in our apples. My last costume, I was a cat. That was when I was a senior in college though. ::kiddy:: Some men tried the hugs thing at doors, but I just held out my plastic jack o' lantern for candy.

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« Reply #24 on: Mon Oct 12, 2009 - 22:25:02 »
Halloween indeed stands for non Christian things, but we deal with non Christian things on a  daily basis all day long, so this doesn't bother me any worse than anything else.


 Does that mean that we actively take part in them though?
Nobody's worshiping the Devil on Halloween (at least not in my neighborhood).

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #25 on: Mon Oct 12, 2009 - 23:20:07 »
Halloween indeed stands for non Christian things, but we deal with non Christian things on a  daily basis all day long, so this doesn't bother me any worse than anything else.


 Does that mean that we actively take part in them though?
Nobody's worshiping the Devil on Halloween (at least not in my neighborhood).


 Well once on Halloween not very many years ago. There was a old man, with a long grey beard, riding a teeny, tiny,  bicycle in a circle in front of my house for hours. Just riding in a circle, I do not know if that was some form of devil worship, but was strange.  ::stirringthepot::::stirringthepot::

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« Reply #26 on: Mon Oct 12, 2009 - 23:24:07 »
Eccentricity is not evil.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #27 on: Mon Oct 12, 2009 - 23:29:11 »
Eccentricity is not evil.


 I do not know, he was weird, maybe crazy, I do not know how the old fellow rode in the same circle for hours without falling off that tiny bike. I guess I would call it amazing. ::eatingpopcorn:

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #28 on: Tue Oct 13, 2009 - 17:02:08 »
a day set aside for Satan................no
a day set aside for the Risen Christ....................yes and everyday
a day set aside for the promise of the Christ child.............yes and everyday even though he was not born in December, but that's another discussion.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #29 on: Tue Oct 13, 2009 - 18:15:58 »
Halloween indeed stands for non Christian things, but we deal with non Christian things on a  daily basis all day long, so this doesn't bother me any worse than anything else.


 Does that mean that we actively take part in them though?
Nobody's worshiping the Devil on Halloween (at least not in my neighborhood).


 Well once on Halloween not very many years ago. There was a old man, with a long grey beard, riding a teeny, tiny,  bicycle in a circle in front of my house for hours. Just riding in a circle, I do not know if that was some form of devil worship, but was strange.  ::stirringthepot::::stirringthepot::

That's amazing!!  You really saw him!  You may have heard of the Great Pumpkin, but there is another "Legend"----   "Jaspro, the Halloween Bike Rider".  Some call it an 'Urban Legend'----may have originated in Indiana.  According to legend Jaspro appears on a tiny bicycle (sometimes a unicycle depending on who's telling the story) and will circle for hours in one location, sometimes riding in smaller and smaller concentric circles until he is moving quite swiftly.

You are actually quite lucky it appears.  The story goes that if you scare Jaspro, so that he loses his concentration and falls, you can be cursed for it. Apparently his curse isn't too strong--the ones who have been cursed have suffered broken arms, or taken ill, but there have been no deaths or major injuries as a result.

He only appears on Halloween night, and has a long grey beard just as you describe him.  He apparently talks to himself as he rides in the circles----not sure if you heard him speaking at all.  I thought it was all just a legend----but you actually saw the little guy.  Do you remember anything else about him?  What he was wearing?  The color of the bike?  Etc.?

No one is sure why he picks the houses or locations he does to circle in front of, or what he is doing it for.  One man who was cursed with a broken arm after scaring Jaspro said that Jaspro had circled for at least three hours in front of his house----though there was a whole block of other houses he could have chosen.  Very strange indeed!!  Jaspro may be some form of fairy or elf as legend has it, but none has really gotten close enough to confirm just exactly what he is.
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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #30 on: Tue Oct 13, 2009 - 20:13:52 »
I don't have a problem with it.  Ima dress up a bit and take the kids trick or treating (to the houses of people we actually know).

Bought a Guy Fawkes mask and a big black hat.  ::wink::

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #31 on: Tue Oct 13, 2009 - 20:19:02 »
Halloween indeed stands for non Christian things, but we deal with non Christian things on a  daily basis all day long, so this doesn't bother me any worse than anything else.


 Does that mean that we actively take part in them though?
Nobody's worshiping the Devil on Halloween (at least not in my neighborhood).


 Well once on Halloween not very many years ago. There was a old man, with a long grey beard, riding a teeny, tiny,  bicycle in a circle in front of my house for hours. Just riding in a circle, I do not know if that was some form of devil worship, but was strange.  ::stirringthepot::::stirringthepot::

That's amazing!!  You really saw him!  You may have heard of the Great Pumpkin, but there is another "Legend"----   "Jaspro, the Halloween Bike Rider".  Some call it an 'Urban Legend'----may have originated in Indiana.  According to legend Jaspro appears on a tiny bicycle (sometimes a unicycle depending on who's telling the story) and will circle for hours in one location, sometimes riding in smaller and smaller concentric circles until he is moving quite swiftly.

You are actually quite lucky it appears.  The story goes that if you scare Jaspro, so that he loses his concentration and falls, you can be cursed for it. Apparently his curse isn't too strong--the ones who have been cursed have suffered broken arms, or taken ill, but there have been no deaths or major injuries as a result.

He only appears on Halloween night, and has a long grey beard just as you describe him.  He apparently talks to himself as he rides in the circles----not sure if you heard him speaking at all.  I thought it was all just a legend----but you actually saw the little guy.  Do you remember anything else about him?  What he was wearing?  The color of the bike?  Etc.?

No one is sure why he picks the houses or locations he does to circle in front of, or what he is doing it for.  One man who was cursed with a broken arm after scaring Jaspro said that Jaspro had circled for at least three hours in front of his house----though there was a whole block of other houses he could have chosen.  Very strange indeed!!  Jaspro may be some form of fairy or elf as legend has it, but none has really gotten close enough to confirm just exactly what he is.

 Really, are you joshin Fish?   I swear this is true, he mumbled, and had a little bike, I do not recall color, maybe rusty lol. I have never heard this, are you pulling my leg? (LOL)

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #32 on: Tue Oct 13, 2009 - 21:34:12 »
Halloween is a Christian festival. I intent to celebrate it.

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« Reply #33 on: Wed Oct 14, 2009 - 07:56:14 »
a day set aside for Satan................no
a day set aside for the Risen Christ....................yes and everyday
a day set aside for the promise of the Christ child.............yes and everyday even though he was not born in December, but that's another discussion.

No, it is fitting for this discussion.  You celebrate a holiday of worship for pagan God's, and a feast to worship, the "spirit of light" (ie, satan), because a Christian group made it a Christian holiday, yet a harvest festival that a Christian group made a Christian holiday is scorned, and what's more you scorn your brother's and sisters for celebrating that same day.

That is the very fiber of this discussion.

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Re: For everyone against Halloween
« Reply #34 on: Wed Oct 14, 2009 - 10:40:19 »
 Wow, everyone is do deep. I guess, I just try and live for Jesus, live the word.  understand everyone has some personal convictions, but why does everything have to be sinful? I will give I understand the halloween for some people, but not for some. Christmas and Easter, are great for me. I do not care who used to do what B.C, or even A.D., I celebrate Jesus, and see Christmas and Easter, as a time of reflection of Christ. The truth is even unbelievers, have to reflect slightly, by the sheer nature of these seasons. Just my humble opinion. Holy week of Easter, just makes me feel almost surreal. My Sunday School kids usually paint a Mural on butcher paper divided in sections starting with Jesus and the palm leaves entering Jerusalem, going through the last Supper, the garden, the arrest, the death, burial, Resurrection and ascension in heaven of Jesus Christ. We use tree stickers, rock stickers, paint, foamies, magic markers, pencils cotton balls and the kids are truly, truly touched by this. You might ask why wait until it is Easter? Why not? the kids are focused on this aspect of Jesus sacrifice, and I want them to see that time of reflection. Yes Easter egg hunting is cool, I myself like the peeps, and chocolate bunnies, and I am sure Jesus, and his nature of loving kids would have went on an Easter Egg hunt with kids, and enjoyed it. If he were walking physically here now, Jesus, I guarantee you would participate in the Easter Egg hunt, and eat peeps and chocolate bunnies and eggs. I guess my view of the Lord is so much different than some peoples. I can see him chuckling at people who get in knots over these kind of things.  wonder if he just thinks " people quit sweating the small things."