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Has the World gone nuts?
« on: Thu Jul 05, 2012 - 08:25:45 »
Past couple of days people can't seem to drive worth beans lately.

they are so busy texting on their phones that they wanna swerve all over the road or stop in the middle of traffic to get their text out.

Driving 25 in a 45 zone will not only generally get you killed but take out a few others with you.

Then last night...busiest DUI day of the year. So I try to stay off the roads.

We had gone to some friends to have a bit of fun. we ate and played games and had a great time. I made some caramel from scratch to compliment the home made ice cream they made. I ate way too much...it was awesome.

Supplanter, my wife, left something over there after getting home and comfortable was when she noticed...so shoes have to go back on and drive back over to go and get it.

when we get back I see that some neighbors are playing with fireworks.  ::doh::

We haven't had any rain in weeks so things are a bit dry around here.

Sure enough they started the grass on fire and made me worry about the whole complex.

Drunks, teenagers, fire, night, and explosives...great mix eh? ::rollingeyes:: ::what?!?!::

This after coming home from work the other day to find the parking lot full...and there is one joker who obviously felt above the rules by parking right down the middle of two spaces with his car. So I parked sideways behind him so he couldn't get out. and I went inside.  Eventually he came out to his minivan to leave (I know the cars that belong here) and proceeds to move his vehicle out by rocking it back and forth to get out...I come out to move my car so I can let him out (and let him have a piece of my mind) just to find out that he is our new maintenance guy.

He then proceeds to bless me out for blocking him in...as if. I think I shocked him when I gave it back to him and then some. Obviously from my career as a construction Electrician I can give better than this skinny little wienie can think of. So now he is challenging me to a fight. I tell him that he needs to get on before he wakes up in a hospital. I live here and he doesn't and this is my home...not his. (I have lived here for over six years)

He goes and tells the Managers his little issue...surprise surprise they now need a new maintenance guy. I see him later at the driving range hitting a few golf balls...he doesn't say a word but quietly leaves...leaving a quarter bucket of balls unhit.  rofl  another fella picks them up and hits them.. I was kinda glad too. My son was with me. He is bigger than I am. We look intimidating, I guess, to him...even if I was wearing my Casting Crowns baseball cap.

Then at School the instructor is another wienie. Programming is somewhat of a new thing for a lot of my classmates...so we go kinda slow. PLC programming is kinda a unique thing so it is a bit different than what I learned in College 20 years ago. BasicA, Fortran, Cobol, Pascal, and etc.  But usually I would sit down with the syntax dictionary and learn how to program and the instructor would check my work. Even if I had gone beyond what they were teaching with some new expressions my extra work was always rewarded when it would work. Advice given when I didn't understand syntax or usage.

the first homework programming exercise I followed the instructions given to the letter and restricted myself in how I solved the assignment...only to watch the instructor not follow the homework instructions and basically cheat to get the assignment accomplished. I fussed and told him that if that was what he wanted I coulda done that in a quarter of the time that I spent on it. Relay logic instead of PLC logic was the assignment and from the TITLE of the assignment that was what the assignment was. He used PLC logic and that was what he wanted and I was brow beaten for not using it.

Next assignment given and now we can use PLC logic. Much easier....but restricted to a specific number of expressions. OK...but from reading ahead and getting to more expressions and commands I see one I want to use. I ask if I can use one...again brow beaten and told that that isn't going to be allowed.

I was programming computers when this wienie wasn't even a gleam in his daddy's eye yet...I programmed them on tape cassettes before there were hard drives available to the common public. Floppy drives had yet become invented. And he wants to tell me what is specially allowed and not allowed but when it comes to his solutions it is? He has to be one of the worst instructors we have had...or at least just as bad as the last one and he was a joke too.

Why not just write the darned programming for me and be done with it? That is what he is doing for the rest of the class (who is rather burned out and no one is trying) I am the only one putting forth the effort to learn anything or do the assignments.  I actually don't really care whether I top out right now or not. (They all care and want the $$$) I got enough to get by on and that is enough for me.


*sigh*

gonna go and do this homework and get the failing grade over with.,

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Has the World gone nuts?
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« Reply #1 on: Thu Jul 05, 2012 - 10:28:38 »
...........you could retitle your OP................."Ode of the Red Neck "Lectritian."

 rofl


(picking on some skinny little weenie...........shame on you............)

 rofl


However, let me tell ya a story of mine.............see, I'm driving to the store, 'n' for the first time I notice this small road sign (musta been just put there) that says..........."CLICK IT OR TICKIT"  So I'm thinking.......gee, hadn't noticed that before, and I look up the road a wee bit and see a police car sitting there..........

SNAP!  I'm thinking...........and I drove right by that new sign..............so I slow down real quick like, safely back up to the sign, pull over 'n' get my cell phone and take a picture of the sing............WHEW...........THAT WAS CLOSE.............and then I go my merry way.  All of a sudden I hear this sirene 'n' look in my rear view, and there is that durn policeman lights all a flashing behind me.  Oh well, I pull over 'n' he comes up to me 'n' says......."Hey, didn't you see that sign back there?"  Well, yeah, I says, see ---- I got a picture of it................"CLICK"

(moral of the story.......policemans donna have a sense of humor atall!)

 ::mopingaround::

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« Reply #2 on: Thu Jul 05, 2012 - 10:41:51 »
 rofl  rofl  rofl  rofl

Thanks guys,
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« Reply #3 on: Thu Jul 05, 2012 - 10:44:06 »
...........you could retitle your OP................."Ode of the Red Neck "Lectritian."

 rofl


(picking on some skinny little weenie...........shame on you............)

 rofl


However, let me tell ya a story of mine.............see, I'm driving to the store, 'n' for the first time I notice this small road sign (musta been just put there) that says..........."CLICK IT OR TICKIT"  So I'm thinking.......gee, hadn't noticed that before, and I look up the road a wee bit and see a police car sitting there..........

SNAP!  I'm thinking...........and I drove right by that new sign..............so I slow down real quick like, safely back up to the sign, pull over 'n' get my cell phone and take a picture of the sing............WHEW...........THAT WAS CLOSE.............and then I go my merry way.  All of a sudden I hear this sirene 'n' look in my rear view, and there is that durn policeman lights all a flashing behind me.  Oh well, I pull over 'n' he comes up to me 'n' says......."Hey, didn't you see that sign back there?"  Well, yeah, I says, see ---- I got a picture of it................"CLICK"

(moral of the story.......policemans donna have a sense of humor atall!)

 ::mopingaround::


 Thats SO funny p.r. You do keep me amused. ::giggle:: John I think it was definately the casting crowns cap that did it, VERY intimidating. lol

Is it illegal to be on your mobile while driving there John? It is here but you still see many who do it, and it annoys me so much. I would be a very strict policewomen, cos I would have those guys quick smartish. ::police::
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« Reply #4 on: Thu Jul 05, 2012 - 11:15:47 »
Oh my goodness
 ::crazy::

 ::laughinghisterically:: so hard I'm  ::cryingtears::

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« Reply #5 on: Thu Jul 05, 2012 - 12:41:26 »
Ah, just what I needed - a good belly laugh to make me choke on my lunch!

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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #6 on: Thu Jul 05, 2012 - 13:42:35 »
"He then proceeds to bless me out for blocking him in...as if. I think I shocked him when I gave it back to him and then some. Obviously from my career as a construction Electrician I can give better than this skinny little wienie can think of. So now he is challenging me to a fight. I tell him that he needs to get on before he wakes up in a hospital. I live here and he doesn't and this is my home...not his. (I have lived here for over six years)"


My dear brother in Christ. As a moderator, do you think this appropriate behaviour? Please forgive me if I seem judgmental, that is not my intention. Turning the other cheek is what Christ would do instead of threatening this person that he may wake up in a hospital. If I am out of line, please say so and I will leave this forum because then it is not for me.


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« Reply #7 on: Thu Jul 05, 2012 - 17:49:07 »
 ::reading::

The Gospel of John, Chapter 2:12)After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days.  13 .) And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,  14 .) And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:  15 .) And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;  16 .) And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

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"appropriate behaviour?"

.................just saying..............

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« Reply #8 on: Thu Jul 05, 2012 - 19:12:08 »
My dear brother in Christ. As a moderator, do you think this appropriate behaviour? Please forgive me if I seem judgmental, that is not my intention. Turning the other cheek is what Christ would do instead of threatening this person that he may wake up in a hospital. If I am out of line, please say so and I will leave this forum because then it is not for me.

Firstly, I believe Johns is a volunteer,  he like all of us is simply human, and should not IMO be held to a higher standard.

Secondly was it a threat or merely an explanation of cause and effect?  ::smile:: 

As for what p.r. quoted, it is indeed what I first thought of when I considered your post earlier.  Even Jesus did not always turn the other cheek, so must we?  Did David back down from Goliath?  Now don't get me wrong, I do sincerely believe in the philosophy and am reminded and act on it daily when my ire is raised, however there are occasions when I do not, when I deem it not appropriate to the situation or when I consider the loss too great.

In this particular instance what would be the best strategy, is it plausible that turning the other cheek might have encouraged this fellows behaviour leading to and even worse outcome?  John was there we were not, I give him the benefit of the doubt.  Given the situation I may too have explained the facts to this fellow, actually, I likely would have.

Leave if you must, but IMO it might be an overreaction, and I would mourn the loss.  You have value to add to this site, perhaps it has something to offer you.  ::shrug::

Just my thoughts,

God bless,
Carey.





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« Reply #9 on: Thu Jul 05, 2012 - 21:37:17 »
Ya know, I don't know what is up lately but it has been crazy over here on the west coast too.  I am really starting to dislike 4th of July.  I HATE loud mouth drunks so intent on their "right to partay" they keep up the neighborhood :(  I'm not a prude but sheeesh!!!!

The only thing about 4th of July I like are the random 80+ year old men who served in WWII, them, I'll take six, sit back with an Arnie Palmer and listen to tales of wartime valor!

Good for you for sticking up for yourself, John.  Where has your wife been?  She needs to come around more often.

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« Reply #10 on: Thu Jul 05, 2012 - 22:30:03 »
Now for those that don't know me I am rather mild mannered & try my best to stay outta trouble especially violence.

Violence usually is way too expensive on many counts and doesn't do much for your witness. But occassionaly you come accross some moron that won't take every invitation to leave with his bruised ego in spite of being out classed & outsized. Protecting my house & family is a responsibility God has charged me with. And when I am invited to physically defend them I aint gonna back down. I really don't care if he is (which in this case he wasn't ) bigger than me. He aint gettin away unscathed. But as it is with most wienies this guy left without so much as a hiccup in his gas pedal when he drove to the managers office for his firing.

And as for Supplanter; she is really busy of late with a few projects that I'll fill you all in on later. 


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« Reply #11 on: Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 10:40:14 »
when under attack or feeling violated, our first instinct is to defend, or attack.

 Now as Christians we must then submit to the Holy Spirit....if I choose to attack or defend will it glorify God, will it prevent me from being bodily harmed?

In Johns case, he should of let his frustration go.

John:  "This after coming home from work the other day to find the parking lot full...and there is one joker who obviously felt above the rules by parking right down the middle of two spaces with his car. So I parked sideways behind him so he couldn't get out. and I went inside.  Eventually he came out to his minivan to leave (I know the cars that belong here) and proceeds to move his vehicle out by rocking it back and forth to get out...I come out to move my car so I can let him out (and let him have a piece of my mind) just to find out that he is our new maintenance guy"

This is not Christ like behavior.  (sorry John, not picking on you, just pointing it out for we are to be examples to the world of Christ)

this is....

38 "You have heard that our fathers were told, `Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.' 39 But I tell you not to stand up against someone who does you wrong. On the contrary, if someone hits you on the right cheek, let him hit you on the left cheek too!

40 If someone wants to sue you for your shirt, let him have your coat as well!

 41 And if a soldier forces you to carry his pack for one mile, carry it for two!

 42 When someone asks you for something, give it to him; when someone wants to borrow something from you, lend it to him.

 43 "You have heard that our fathers were told, `Love your neighbors -- and hate your enemy.' 44 But I tell you, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! 45 Then you will become children of your Father in heaven. For he makes his sun shine on good and bad people alike, and he sends rain to the righteous and the unrighteous alike.

46 What reward do you get if you love only those who love you? Why, even tax-collectors do that!

 47 And if you are friendly only to your friends, are you doing anything out of the ordinary? Even the Goyim (unbelievers) do that! 48 Therefore, be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect

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« Reply #12 on: Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 13:50:41 »
Christlike behavior doesn't always mean letting someone else get away with things.  I think John stood up for what is RIGHT. Imagine the chaos this guy would have cause for the whole complex if he thought he didn't have to follow the rules. Part of the problem with the world today is people don't stand up for what is right anymore...its all about 'just love em and turn the other cheek'.

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« Reply #13 on: Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 14:37:36 »
All I did was fuss at him. I didn't invite him to a fist fight he invited me. If I wanted to be evil I woulda delighted in having him towed.

As it was I didn't call the tow truck or assault him. I fussed at him. (I can fuss well when I need to. I learned how from the Credible Hulk. (He has facts & rescources)

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« Reply #14 on: Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 15:56:29 »
Christlike behavior doesn't always mean letting someone else get away with things.  I think John stood up for what is RIGHT. Imagine the chaos this guy would have cause for the whole complex if he thought he didn't have to follow the rules. Part of the problem with the world today is people don't stand up for what is right anymore...its all about 'just love em and turn the other cheek'.

"part of the problem with the world today is"....Christians behaving as the world, and not behaving as Christ would.  Did you read, Matthew 5?  It is all about 'just love em and turn the other cheek'.

The best way to deal with the man who parked like an idiot, was to maybe leave a note on his windshield, not fowl words, but pointing out his error.  Instead, (sorry John, but you layed it out for us) John's way caused confrontation, and defensive behavior, most people do not respond to that.

As Christians we heap coals of kindness, to lead someone to repentance.

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« Reply #15 on: Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 17:38:07 »
i would have hooked a rope up and pulled his vehicle as far away as i could.....  that would have calmed me down  rofl   ::shrug::   ::whistle::

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« Reply #16 on: Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 20:09:25 »
I am reminded of a story my father tells about his buddy Collin, I only have very vague memories of Collin from when I was a young child, but I remember him being a big, somewhat surly, English guy.

One night when he and my dad went out to a pub they came out to find a car parked behind Collin's.  Collin proceeded to back into it half a dozen times until he had room to get by.  He then scribbled out a somewhat profane note with his name and telephone number on it and off they went.

The police showed up at Collin's later that night, and although they were sympathetic even amused, he had to reimburse the guy for the damages. 

Like most of my father's stories I have heard this one far too many times, however it is one of his funnier ones.

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« Reply #17 on: Sat Jul 07, 2012 - 12:21:54 »
  Must be the heat John.    That sounds like my behavior before I knew the Lord.  Re-read your post John, you sound a little nutty, for one of God's children. 
    We all get fired up once in a while.  Yes we are surrounded by inconsiderate thoughtless oblivious creations by God's hand, don't let them get the best of you, and lower yourself to such reactions. 
  Ask for forgiveness, forgive yourself and next time take a breath, take a breath  -  what would Jesus do ?    I know , it ain't easy, it ain't easy for me.  I , in the past, took such pride in being a tough guy, but surely that not is aligned with His will... 
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« Reply #18 on: Sat Jul 07, 2012 - 12:48:25 »
"He then proceeds to bless me out for blocking him in...as if. I think I shocked him when I gave it back to him and then some. Obviously from my career as a construction Electrician I can give better than this skinny little wienie can think of. So now he is challenging me to a fight. I tell him that he needs to get on before he wakes up in a hospital. I live here and he doesn't and this is my home...not his. (I have lived here for over six years)"


My dear brother in Christ. As a moderator, do you think this appropriate behaviour? Please forgive me if I seem judgmental, that is not my intention. Turning the other cheek is what Christ would do instead of threatening this person that he may wake up in a hospital. If I am out of line, please say so and I will leave this forum because then it is not for me.
The Bible does say, "not returning evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary blessing, knowing that you were called to this, that you may inherit a blessing." (1 Peter 3:9)

To my knowledge, we have people with different ways of seeing things here, and they are welcome or allowed to say what they really decide to say. So, this can mean you also are free to give what you have. So, if you have what is good, definitely I would say to give it so God can use it ::smile:: Do not flee, especially if no one is telling you to go, I would say. Satan is the one who has to flee if you are right!

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« Reply #19 on: Sat Jul 07, 2012 - 16:54:19 »
I can't honestly say that I believe the man who parked illegally/rudely was evil and I also can't say John confronting him was evil.  I, also, would have confronted him.  Here's the thing though, we need to stand up for what is right.  Standing up to someone who breaks the law is not evil or "repaying evil".  I have to wonder if this absurd twisted level of secular progressive tolerance for ill behavior that has pervaded even the church today hasn't attributed to the lack of respect a lot of men feel.  In all honesty, I have no respect for a sissy man who will not or can not speak up when things are objectionable.  This is not to say one should go around snooping for things to confront but as things come, deal with them.  Should John have beat the guy up?  Nope, and he didn't! 

The thing about the verse from 1 Peter, though.  Peter wrote that to a church in the first century under heavy persecution with strong encouragement for how to deal with relational issues and exhortation for personal holiness.  He did not intend it for a man in 2012 to not say anything to another man who parked in an obnoxiously rude manner.  The epistles need to be read in at least paragraphs for correct comprehension, not cherry picked.

Read 1 Peter 3 entirely through, he encourages love and compassion between believers specifically and also with unbelievers, that we are to suffer for doing good, etc.  it does not say to let some guy be a donkey in public and to stand meekly by and accept it.  DO good and suffer, not STAND BY AND LET WHATEVER HAPPEN.  See what I mean?

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« Reply #20 on: Sat Jul 07, 2012 - 17:02:12 »
cuz I can't help myself...



Cuz Fassapony speaks the truth...context counts...and my wife (the butterfly above) needs a home safe from jerks.

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« Reply #21 on: Sat Jul 07, 2012 - 17:18:32 »
Fassopony has been enjoying the classes she is required to take from Liberty University's Biblical Studies and Religion Depts like Survey of Biblical Lit and Apologetics ;)  Ya know, in between getting that Accounting Degree LOL!!  I seem to be acquiring a very firm foundation in reading and understanding the Bible from ole Jerry Falwells school, eh?  I would love to actually visit the campus someday in VA, we'll see.

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« Reply #22 on: Sat Jul 07, 2012 - 19:12:16 »
I can't honestly say that I believe the man who parked illegally/rudely was evil and I also can't say John confronting him was evil.  I, also, would have confronted him.  Here's the thing though, we need to stand up for what is right.  Standing up to someone who breaks the law is not evil or "repaying evil".  I have to wonder if this absurd twisted level of secular progressive tolerance for ill behavior that has pervaded even the church today hasn't attributed to the lack of respect a lot of men feel.  In all honesty, I have no respect for a sissy man who will not or can not speak up when things are objectionable.  This is not to say one should go around snooping for things to confront but as things come, deal with them.  Should John have beat the guy up?  Nope, and he didn't! 

The thing about the verse from 1 Peter, though.  Peter wrote that to a church in the first century under heavy persecution with strong encouragement for how to deal with relational issues and exhortation for personal holiness.  He did not intend it for a man in 2012 to not say anything to another man who parked in an obnoxiously rude manner.  The epistles need to be read in at least paragraphs for correct comprehension, not cherry picked.

Read 1 Peter 3 entirely through, he encourages love and compassion between believers specifically and also with unbelievers, that we are to suffer for doing good, etc.  it does not say to let some guy be a donkey in public and to stand meekly by and accept it.  DO good and suffer, not STAND BY AND LET WHATEVER HAPPEN.  See what I mean?

oh please.  We are talking about a parking space.

so sad to see Christians get so hot headed over something so little.

Nobody is saying Christians should not stand up for what is right, like I said, John could of just left a note on the mans car, I would of just let it go myself.

If we really submitted to the teaching of Jesus, John should of offered the man another parking space, maybe cookies and lemonade to go with it.

Jesus: "38 "You have heard that our fathers were told, `Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.'

 39 But I tell you not to stand up against someone who does you wrong. On the contrary, if someone hits you on the right cheek, let him hit you on the left cheek too!

40 If someone wants to sue you for your shirt, let him have your coat as well!

 41 And if a soldier forces you to carry his pack for one mile, carry it for two!

 42 When someone asks you for something, give it to him; when someone wants to borrow something from you, lend it to him.

 43 "You have heard that our fathers were told, `Love your neighbors -- and hate your enemy.'

 44 But I tell you, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! (Matthew 5)

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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #23 on: Sat Jul 07, 2012 - 20:07:29 »
We have a difference of opinion, Deborah.  I do not think you are correct and a note on the car is textbook passive aggressive behavior.  It is obvious we would handle the situation differently.  I suppose we can ask God Himself about it at a later date.

Interestingly, poor/anti-social behavior in children (and necessarily all humans) starts out in small increments and builds.  It develops over time by getting away with or sneaking around morals or standards or guidelines.  The question is, was the rude parking man simply having a bad day or was he used to just blowing off others in order to satisfy whatever he wanted to do whenever he felt like it.

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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #24 on: Sat Jul 07, 2012 - 20:08:35 »
The parking space is in front of MY Home in MY Neighborhood.

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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #25 on: Sat Jul 07, 2012 - 20:51:38 »
The parking space is in front of MY Home in MY Neighborhood.



My dear brother. I understand your frustration. We are human. I often remind myself though that whatever is mine is not mine but the Lord's, who through His generosity has given it to me. My cup runneth over as does yours my dear brother. The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want.

To make my point from my original reply to you, can you imagine Jesus returning to His home, only to see that someone else took His spot, and out of frustration, hitched his colt so that His neighbor could not move their colt? And then to imply that if you were to tangle with me, the King of Kings, I might just have to mess you up cause now I'm pissed off. That would be ridiculous behavior of our Lord, yet you are justifying it because of your pride.

I also think that you are a bit annoyed that some of the fellowship here are correcting you and you feel a resistance to it. I welcome the care and love one can give me when I am rebuked for doing something that I should not have done. This is wisdom. You have wisdom my brother, but don't let it flee from you through temptation.

With my sincere love and care. Through Christ, by His command presence, who can get any parking space in the universe by His love - I bless you.


John


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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #26 on: Sat Jul 07, 2012 - 21:44:25 »
resistance?

Never mind....whats the point...to some everyone else in this world is wrong...always will be. No one but themselves ever does anything right.
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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #27 on: Sun Jul 08, 2012 - 09:11:57 »
We have a difference of opinion, Deborah.  I do not think you are correct and a note on the car is textbook passive aggressive behavior.  It is obvious we would handle the situation differently.  I suppose we can ask God Himself about it at a later date.

Interestingly, poor/anti-social behavior in children (and necessarily all humans) starts out in small increments and builds.  It develops over time by getting away with or sneaking around morals or standards or guidelines.  The question is, was the rude parking man simply having a bad day or was he used to just blowing off others in order to satisfy whatever he wanted to do whenever he felt like it.

you are not disagreeing with me but the teaching of Jesus.  Did you read the scripture I quoted.

we are to live by the Spirit, not the flesh.

I do not mean to pick on John, nor can I claim I have never responded to a situation with un-righteous anger. 

We are a witness to many people on these forums, believers and not, we are to be perfect as Jesus was perfect, we are to behave different than the world, WE ARE TO LOVE OUR ENEMIES.  We can not do this with out submitting to the Holy Spirit.

no hurt feelings I pray  ::tippinghat::

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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #28 on: Sun Jul 08, 2012 - 09:21:39 »
My take is that we need to pick our fights, just as we do with our children when they are growing up. No harm in standing up for what is right, but not sure that it does us any good physically or emotionally to get all steamed up about these things does it? Much more healthy for us to stay relaxed and calm.
   

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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #29 on: Sun Jul 08, 2012 - 10:35:05 »
Interestingly, I agree with Chosenone.  Pick your battles but don't let them commandeer your whole outlook, or, get mad as heck.

Love our enemies, love as a verb meaning "to DO love".  That means to act in a loving manner.  That means 'Hey buddy, your car is parked blocking my parking" not run, hide and meekly hope he moves before you have to leave for work LOL!!  Also not to come out swinging a tire iron at his poorly parked car LOL!!  Parents correct children in love, supervisors correct employees in love, strangers correct other strangers in love.  Love your enemies does not mean avoid confrontation at all costs.  That is the essence of being passively indecisive which in actuality is a decision in itself, to avoid having to deal with anything.

How are we to be the salt and light if we pass the salt and meekly run from the dark?

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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #30 on: Sun Jul 08, 2012 - 10:56:13 »
In the UK  the roads are so busy, that if we got stressed every time that someone parked in the wrong place we would all be having heart attacks.  ::eek::

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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #31 on: Sun Jul 08, 2012 - 11:12:59 »

How are we to be the salt and light if we pass the salt and meekly run from the dark?


Oooo! That's great! Mind if I borrow it?

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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #32 on: Sun Jul 08, 2012 - 18:50:18 »
what does standing "up to the dark" entail?  What does the "light" look like to an evil world...

Jesus tells us, how to deal with people who walk in the dark...

if someone does you wrong...Jesus says, NOT TO STAND UP AGAINST HIM, and if this man of the darkness wants to hit you, let him hit you.  (what?!)

If an evil man wants your shirt...LET HIM HAVE YOUR COAT AS WELL (you have got to be joking!!)

As Christians, especially American Christians, who are taught by our society to fight for yourself, that being humble is for wimps, and revenge is the game, we just skip over the teaching of scripture that tell us HOW TO BE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD.

Of course Jesus is not saying we should not have a civil society of laws that incarcerate the evil, but to truly rehabilitate an evil person is with love, love brings people to repentance.  In the prisons we give them food, clothing, a place to sleep, and hopefully they will find a prisons missions to help them find Christ.

I really do not know to what extent we take Jesus teaching, ::shrug:: to allow someone to hit me? ???

  I was attacked and kidnapped, ::cryingtears:: I believe Jesus showed me how to fight for release, and gave me a vision of my children to give me the strength to do so...so I will admit, I confused about this teaching.

The parking space, was a time to turn the other cheek, to give the the "shirt" and the  "coat" (parking spaces)

I walked into church this morning thinking of this discussion, I started humming to myself before entering the doors, "they will know we are Christians by our Love"....when I stepped through the doors, this is the song our worship band was singing...I do not believe it was a coincidence.



Matthew 5

"38 “You have heard that our fathers were told, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.39 But I tell you not to stand up against someone who does you wrong. On the contrary, if someone hits you on the right cheek, let him hit you on the left cheek too! 40 If someone wants to sue you for your shirt, let him have your coat as well! 41 And if a soldier forces you to carry his pack for one mile, carry it for two! 42 When someone asks you for something, give it to him; when someone wants to borrow something from you, lend it to him.


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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #33 on: Sun Jul 08, 2012 - 19:04:36 »

How are we to be the salt and light if we pass the salt and meekly run from the dark?


Oooo! That's great! Mind if I borrow it?

Have at it!

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Re: Has the World gone nuts?
« Reply #34 on: Mon Jul 09, 2012 - 13:52:43 »
resistance?

Never mind....whats the point...to some everyone else in this world is wrong...always will be. No one but themselves ever does anything right.


JohnDB,

I want to compliment you my dear brother because your fiery Spirit reminds me of Peter in the Gospels who was a man that did not hold back from speaking his mind. We are all filled with the Spirit with different manifestations. That's what makes us unique! I know your heart is good, so please forgive my arrogance if I spoke out of turn to you. I value your efforts on this forum for they are worthy.

May the Peace of Our Lord be with you and me always.

Your brother in Christ.

John