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Possible nasty "aftermath" of Covid19
« on: Mon Jun 29, 2020 - 03:38:53 »
Was quite disturbed to read a "tucked-away" item at the foot of a page in our Daily Mail of 24th June - entitled "Thousands could have permanent damage to lungs" by Eleanor Hayward, Health Reporter.   Don't know if these views were replicated in your US dailies.   To quote from a few paragraphs of the article  : -
 
    "NHS England said it was opening specialist rehabilitation hospitals for follow-up care after research suggested one in three hospital patients could suffer irreversible damage or scarring to their lungs.   Guidance issued to GPs and community services also says that up to one half of Covid-19  patients treated in intensive care may be left with'persistent physical, cognitive and psychological impairments'.

   Doctors are particularly concerned about pulmonary fibrosis - an irreversible form of lung damage that can lead to severe shortness of breath, coughing and fatigue.

   Research suggests around 30% of survivors of Sars ans Mers, previous coronavirus outbreaks, suffered permanent lung disease.  Radiologists in the UK who follow-up scans of coronavirus patients suggest many have persistent lung damage.  Dr Sam Hare, an adviser to the Royal College of Radiologists, told the BBC : 'Scarring will potentially happen at 6 to 12 weeks after your infection...your air-sacs will get destroyed and distorted, meaning that you cannot consistently breathe as you did before you had the virus.

   He added : 'In the 6 week scans we're seeing, so far I would say between 20% and 30% of patients who have been in hospital appear to show some early signs of lung scarring.'


  Some 3.5 million people in the UK are estimated to have caught coronavirus - and 100,000 patients have needed hospital treatment in England, meaning 10s of thousands could face long-term lung damage"




   Maybe I'm totally wrong - but think lung damage could easily occur when air under pressure is forced into the lungs of intubated patients!  Unless the repirators are carefully monitored - trouble could easily occur I reckon!  For instance, in efforts to resuscitate a drowned person, you would not "puff air" into a patient at the same strength for a young child as for an adult!  Hope the hospital care staff take all these things into consideration!

 In my prime (dont all laugh!) I could easily swim 32 "freestyle" lengths without any rests, of an open-air 75 yard pool.  I noticed a marked change after heart surgery at 74 ("unzipped" chest, lungs deflated/pushed aside so surgeon could get at heart while on a heart-lung machine for hours - hope they put all the bits back in the right place  ::smile::), and am now (at 84) aware of reduced buoyancy (am more buoyant when on my right side than left - odd, and difficilty in swimming just 1 or 2  lengths of a 20m pool - and need a "breather" before continuing!  Also discovered (in a somewhat comical way) that I cant sustain a drawn-out note when singing with a group, for as long as others - so it's a matter of lung capacity!
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Possible nasty "aftermath" of Covid19
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Re: Possible nasty "aftermath" of Covid19
« Reply #1 on: Mon Jun 29, 2020 - 09:40:17 »
Having had lung issues ever since a pulmonary embolism in 1991 I can assure all that
lung issues are a worry for anyone that are not at 100%.

If the NHS England are correct, this news is extremely distressing as there will never be a cure and control seems random at best.

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« Reply #2 on: Mon Jun 29, 2020 - 19:10:01 »
The rate of disability from this virus is more alarming to me than the death rate. We will not see any numbers on after effects for some time, but there are reports of permanent damage to lungs, kidneys, and heart, also long term fever. Just the economic impact, alone, could be tremendous.

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Re: Possible nasty "aftermath" of Covid19
« Reply #3 on: Tue Jun 30, 2020 - 07:34:34 »
The rate of disability from this virus is more alarming to me than the death rate. We will not see any numbers on after effects for some time, but there are reports of permanent damage to lungs, kidneys, and heart, also long term fever. Just the economic impact, alone, could be tremendous.

Add to that incidences of blood clots, causes directly by this.... and needing life long blood thinners after. I do know a man whose son survived and now has this issue and very high blood pressure now..... Had been on a ventilator, survived, but all these things added to also lung problems.

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« Reply #4 on: Tue Jun 30, 2020 - 07:40:45 »
The rate of disability from this virus is more alarming to me than the death rate. We will not see any numbers on after effects for some time, but there are reports of permanent damage to lungs, kidneys, and heart, also long term fever. Just the economic impact, alone, could be tremendous.

The economic impact isn't from the virus.  The economic impact is from many in government leadership and their executive orders.

And the economic impact from government edicts will take more lives worldwide than the virus.

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« Reply #5 on: Tue Jun 30, 2020 - 20:31:37 »
The economic impact isn't from the virus.  The economic impact is from many in government leadership and their executive orders.

And the economic impact from government edicts will take more lives worldwide than the virus.
The economic impact could be disability from the virus for up to 3% of the population, who are normally productive, but are unable to hold down a job. Plus their medical expenses and support for a number of years. A whole lot more expensive than if 1% died from Covid.
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Re: Possible nasty "aftermath" of Covid19
« Reply #6 on: Wed Jul 01, 2020 - 07:28:56 »
The economic impact could be disability from the virus for up to 3% of the population, who are normally productive, but are unable to hold down a job. Plus their medical expenses and support for a number of years. A whole lot more expensive than if 1% died from Covid.

The economic impact IS from government. 95% of it or more.

You cannot have someone sitting behind a desk at your state capitol or in DC telling you you have to stay home and the only venturing out will be for necessity items such as food and meds.

You cannot have people in house arrest, and make no mistake.. that is what it is... and expect it not to affect them economically.

Only an idiot would not understand that.

So restaurant now open permitting 25% to 50% of normal occupancy are allowed???????? Hoe freaking long do you think a 25% or 50% income will cover expenses and a mortgage or rent???????????

And now, in many cases bars and alcohol serving is stopped. Only food.

It is insanity at its finest.

You HAVE to be smart enough to see that.

You say

"The economic impact could be disability from the virus for up to 3% of the population, who are normally productive, but are unable to hold down a job."

The only expletive reason they are unable to hold down a job is because their jobs are still unavailable.

I wanted to go to the hardware store last week to buy a bag of dirt.  Closed.  And then a sign says to pre order what I want and the phone number.

Expletive... I dont know what I want cause I need to see what they have.

So get off your couch and start to use your brain.... your reasoning iCNN/MSNBC hype.




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Re: Possible nasty "aftermath" of Covid19
« Reply #7 on: Wed Jul 01, 2020 - 08:14:11 »
The economic impact could be disability from the virus for up to 3% of the population, who are normally productive, but are unable to hold down a job. Plus their medical expenses and support for a number of years. A whole lot more expensive than if 1% died from Covid.

Where are you getting your info?  Right now, 85% of those dying are probably already on social security.  The stories of people with lifelong disabilities are most likely anecdotal.  3% of the population?  You have to be kidding me.

The economic impact from government actions will kill more and have great worldwide impacts on starvation, poverty, etc.  The coronavirus response has largely been herding cats.

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« Reply #8 on: Thu Jul 02, 2020 - 19:15:18 »
Where are you getting your info?  Right now, 85% of those dying are probably already on social security. 

And those in the nursing homes and assisted living.

Though truth be told.

With so many dieing in the nursing homes,it will affect the bottom line of those
money making businesses until they can fill up the new vacancies. rofl